Multiple Monitors

Asked by Michael

I know this question has been asked previously, but is there any way to get the display on multiple monitors that will only act independent of each other. The video cards I use will not allow me to make the displays act as one monitor so I would like to be able to send information to each one. I have created the layout and that worked fine, I just think something needs done on the client software.

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stef (stephane-quimpere) said :
#1

Have the same content on both monitors? (Clone?)
Or something different on each?

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Michael (michael-snyder) said :
#2

Different content on each.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 7:53 AM, "stef"
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Alex Harrington (alexharrington) said :
#3

Hi Michael

It would require an option be added to the .net client to select which monitor the app opened in. It would also need additional configuration to be added to support two different client configurations on the same machine. All in that's a significant portion of work and, in the context of the project roadmap something that's very unlikely to happen in the 1.0 series of releases.

If it's a feature you simply have to have, then it would be worth talking to Dan about building you a special version on a bounty-basis - if he were to be interested in that.

Future development wise, this has come up alot and I'm sure we'll tackle it further down the line - but I can't give you a timescale at the moment.

Sorry

Alex

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stef (stephane-quimpere) said :
#4

If it's two different xibo content on the two displays, then it's like Alex said.

If you only want xibo on one display, and something else on the second, i noticed on my PC that i just need to put the shortcut on the desktop on the display that i want to use and start it from there, the client will go full screen there when opened.

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Michael (michael-snyder) said :
#5

Thanks Alex, this is definitely a consideration about talking to Dan for a special version, but it may be just a want on my part not necessarily a need. Just something I'll have to consider.

Thanks,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Alex Harrington
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:23 AM
To: Michael R. Snyder
Subject: Re: [Question #80615]: Multiple Monitors

Your question #80615 on Xibo changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/xibo/+question/80615

    Status: Open => Answered

Alex Harrington proposed the following answer:
Hi Michael

It would require an option be added to the .net client to select which
monitor the app opened in. It would also need additional configuration
to be added to support two different client configurations on the same
machine. All in that's a significant portion of work and, in the context
of the project roadmap something that's very unlikely to happen in the
1.0 series of releases.

If it's a feature you simply have to have, then it would be worth
talking to Dan about building you a special version on a bounty-basis -
if he were to be interested in that.

Future development wise, this has come up alot and I'm sure we'll tackle
it further down the line - but I can't give you a timescale at the
moment.

Sorry

Alex

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Chris DG (chris316) said :
#6

I was going to mention using something like Vmware server and then open up 2 vm's, one per monitor. And have 2 different templates. Although I would imagine there would be some stutter using vmware. Couldn't the client package just be changed to install in a different directory and registry keys. Not sure how that would work out though.

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Alex Harrington (alexharrington) said :
#7

Dan really needs to answer this as it's his baby, but as far as I understand it there's more to it than just installing in a different directory.

Cheers

Alex

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Dan Garner (dangarner) said :
#8

Just to be clear the requirement here is to have 2 (or more) monitors driven from the same PC running different content. This in turn means that each monitor would have to be individually addressable from the server interface to govern what was displayed on it.

Broadly speaking (without having done too much research) I think this can be done. It would involve some fairly major changes to the .NET client in order to have two instances running at once, generate a hardware key for each screen and allow a config to be set for each screen. I see that someone has already created a blueprint for this here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/xibo/+spec/multi-monitor--multi-screen.

I think this will be a valuable piece of functionality to Xibo and it will almost certainly make it into a release eventually.

However as Alex has already mentioned this is not on our Roadmap for 1.0/1.1 but if there is enough interest in a bounty based approach to this functionality I will draw up a more complete specification to the blueprint above and see how much effort it might take to get this in.

Cheers,
Dan

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Michael (michael-snyder) said :
#9

From my standpoint your requirements are exactly what I am looking for. I would be extremely interested in this, but I am not sure if many other's would be interested in such a requirement as I am.

Thanks,
Michael

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From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Dan Garner
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:12 AM
To: Michael R. Snyder
Subject: RE: [Question #80615]: Multiple Monitors

Your question #80615 on Xibo changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/xibo/+question/80615

Dan Garner requested for more information:
Just to be clear the requirement here is to have 2 (or more) monitors
driven from the same PC running different content. This in turn means
that each monitor would have to be individually addressable from the
server interface to govern what was displayed on it.

Broadly speaking (without having done too much research) I think this
can be done. It would involve some fairly major changes to the .NET
client in order to have two instances running at once, generate a
hardware key for each screen and allow a config to be set for each
screen. I see that someone has already created a blueprint for this
here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/xibo/+spec/multi-monitor--multi-
screen.

I think this will be a valuable piece of functionality to Xibo and it
will almost certainly make it into a release eventually.

However as Alex has already mentioned this is not on our Roadmap for
1.0/1.1 but if there is enough interest in a bounty based approach to
this functionality I will draw up a more complete specification to the
blueprint above and see how much effort it might take to get this in.

Cheers,
Dan

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Dan Garner (dangarner) said :
#10

OK, I will write a more detailed spec and stick this on the agenda for our next Xibo meeting. Then I can give you a better idea of how much effort it would be (as a bounty) or alternatively how it will fit into our roadmap.

Cheers,
Dan

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LarryK (wexner) said :
#11

This feature would help bring Xibo into the "pro" world where there are often multiple displays in the same location showing different sets of information. The displays are located in a central location where people pass by frequently. Being able to drive multiple displays obviously saves cost (reduced PC count), and time (faster to set up fewer PCs).

No need to go crazy trying to optimize--usual config for this that I've seen has been 2-4 displays (max) per PC. Also it's understood that you'd need a more powerful PC for more displays.

-- Larry

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stef (stephane-quimpere) said :
#12

It could be useful yes, but there could be other solutions too. I've seen monitors with built-in PCs. The harware doesn't add too much of a footprint and the added cost is not that bad either. On a large scale deploy the added cost would be tremendous yes, but people are still saving a LOT of money using opensource software to run their displays...

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Alex Harrington (alexharrington) said :
#13

To be clear, we aren't saying we won't do this. What we are saying is that right now, it isn't something that fits well in the development roadmap we're working to - but it's there in the back of my mind whenever we're making design decisions.

If it was a simple thing to implement, then it's something we'd consider more readily - but unfortunately it isn't at the moment.

If there is someone who really can't manage without multi monitor support, then they should approach us about paying to have that feature brought forward - otherwise it'll have to wait until the groundworks we're developing now are in place and mature and we're in a position to give this the proper attention it deserves.

Regards

Alex

--- original message ---
From: "LarryK" <email address hidden>
Subject: RE: [Question #80615]: Multiple Monitors
Date: 8th September 2009
Time: 10:31:26 pm

Question #80615 on Xibo changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/xibo/+question/80615

LarryK proposed the following answer:
This feature would help bring Xibo into the "pro" world where there are
often multiple displays in the same location showing different sets of
information. The displays are located in a central location where people
pass by frequently. Being able to drive multiple displays obviously
saves cost (reduced PC count), and time (faster to set up fewer PCs).

No need to go crazy trying to optimize--usual config for this that I've
seen has been 2-4 displays (max) per PC. Also it's understood that you'd
need a more powerful PC for more displays.

-- Larry

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LarryK (wexner) said :
#14

Thanks Alex. I understand. No worries. Xibo is still awesome without this feature.

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Ian A (ialleyne) said :
#15

Hello,
How about the option of extending the desktop across multiple monitors and using a extra wide template? Can an extra wide template be added?
I do realise some testing may be needed to ensure everything lines up correctly. But it may be a simple solution to using multiple monitors.

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Will (goegomez) said :
#16

Hi everyone,
I just joined launchpad even though I've been using Xibo for a couple years now. I've always been able to find the answers that I needed by coming here and looking up stuff. Thanks everybody! I think Xibo is great software but maybe I was too lazy or for whatever reason had to leave it. I believe a new release is online so I'll be downloading that soon. My question/problem that I am running into is that the Xibo client is only running on the default monitor of one of my displays. The display is a 4x3 array, I have the resolution set to 1320 x 1800 (low-res) as the 5760 x 2700 (hi-res) is somewhat sluggish with video playback. Needless to say I can't work with only one of the 12 monitors working. From reading the above posts I'd say my problem isn't as complex as it only involves outputting or using a single instance of the client at once however I do believe that it runs along the same lines because once Xibo can display across multiple screens running multiple instances of off the same computer shouldn't be too hard, maybe. Anyway I'll try downloading the new versions and running those. Maybe a stretched template will help but I read on the manual page that Xibo automatically adjusts to different screen sizes in the most current version, thus if the client is locked to the "main screen" it won't make much of a difference. Maybe a fixed screen resolution might help in some instances however the client would have to be aware as you might be running a lot of different sized displays. I've been able to run Xibo client successfully across my entire network, ranging from tvs to various resolution displays and computers so this would be the next step for me. I would try it on a three monitor display but that is where the server is running off of. I might have time this weekend to look into it and set up a two monitor display and test that out. I'll let you guys know if I have any success.

In reference to the above, if you haven't found a workaround, some things that you may consider are MatrixDVD player or vlc. I've only recently started playing around with MatrixDVD, it is free to use but costs 70 to remove the logo. VLC of course is awesome and open source but it doesn't seem to be multi monitor compatible at the moment. However if you are looking to run more than one instance per display this may work nicely and just have it loop the video. Also some open source remote control may make it more seamless. That said, these solutions aren't anywhere near as good as what Xibo having multi monitor capabilities would be.

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Alex Harrington (alexharrington) said :
#17

You need to bond those displays in to a single screen. Ie the windows task bar goes across the whole lot.

Once you have that the client will fill the lot.

Its a hack though - not proper multi monitor support.

Alex

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Jacques Steyn (jacques-steyn) said :
#18

Hello guys

It's been 2 years since the last post. Does the latest release support independant content on multi monitor on a single pc?

I am new to Xibo and have installed it yesterday and it is amazing. I am still working through a few things and this would be one of my questions.

Thanks for all your hard work

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Alex Harrington (alexharrington) said :
#19

Hi Jacques

Nothing has changed in this respect. You can use spanned monitors if you wish, but that's the limit.

Alex

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Maurizio Migliore (maurizio-migliore) said :
#20

Hi all,
the thread is very long... I didn't read all posts, so I could be redundant.

You may set the same resolution for both the monitors (ie 1360x768) and define a layout 32/9.
Then set the client display as 2 monitors extended...

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Maurizio Migliore (maurizio-migliore) said :
#21

Hi all,
the thread is very long... I didn't read all posts, so I could be redundant.

You may set the same resolution for both the monitors (ie 1360x768) and define a layout 32/9.
Then set the client display as 2 monitors extended...

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teo (swordofthejustice) said :
#22

hi all,

I have 1 pc with nvide quadro graphic card controls 8 monitor same time , i have 3 options ;

-install VMware to pc install 8 windows and xibo for each monitor , will it work? anyone tried ?

-desing a large layout covering 8 monitor using mosaic mode on monitors?

-instead of using pc connect 8 cheap android device to monitrs , and use android version of xibo?

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mike (mikekemp1) said :
#23

One the same note I have been using XIBO and love the software. As for the above, it could be worth making the client have an option for being a Master, this could be one of the screens in your group of say 4. Then on the other 3, all have a pc but in the client you select slave and location in the layout (new area) and set the Master IP or machine ID. Then the slaves talk back to the group master. This is similar to what the BrightSign Players work. Just a thought as I would also love this function in the future. Keep up the great work guys...

Cheers

Mike

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