unable to install Ubuntu 14.04

I went back to your earlier posts. Somewhat confused. Have you gotten "no root system defined" fixed? If not, see sites below.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/329801/no-root-file-system-is-defined

http://askubuntu.com/questions/456743/root-file-system-not-defined-please-correct-this-from-partitioning-menu-ubunt

I have never used QtParted. In researching QtParted, there is differing opinions about it still being maintained. I have had good luck with GParted.

 What is the "SCS14sdc Files" partition? I may be having brain fade, but don't remember any thing like that.

http://linuxexchange.org/questions/589/what-are-the-default-partition-names-in-linux

Below, is taken from above site.
By default, most distributions will have 3 partitions, root or / "swap" and "Home"

some are even more simple but not recommended. Ubuntu used to just create a root partition and a "swap" partition when you went with automatic install erase entire disk. I am not sure if they changed that "not-good" practice. The problem with not creating a home partition is that there is a very high chance that you will loose all your personal files and settings if something happens to the root partition or if you are installing or upgrading to a newer version of your distro.

Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, ask here.

Hello, Michael
I hope this reply does reach you complete with my thanks for your support.
And "no" I have not been able to install Ubuntu. About four or six weeks ago
I had no trouble to install Kubuntu 14.04 in the planned partition on disk 0
and had ended up with a dual boot configuration that had Kubuntu as the
starting OS and required a few clicks with the mouse to start Win 7. I had
then - rather foolishly in retrospect - re-installed Win 7 with the result
that Kubuntu seemed to have disappeared from the pc.
In my experoence since 2000 any installation disk took cate of everything
once some basic choices had been made.
I have a serious problem understanding for what purpose Linux distributions
make matters difficult by fiddling around with existing partitions - in the
afore mentioned case the destination partition had been altered into three
new partitons to no obvious purpose and in such a manner that it was very
diffcult and required MS DISKPART to delete them.
I had hoped that Linux would allow me to wean myself away from Windows, but
after very extensive effort and time I am about to give up. It seems the
basis for the Linux complex does not provide for support by people who are
at the root of the technology.
Perhaps for your understanding: I am now retired, having worked for forty
years as an engineer in telecommunications. Regards Helmut JH

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michael posted a new comment:
I went back to your earlier posts. Somewhat confused. Have you gotten "no
root system defined" fixed? If not, see sites below.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/329801/no-root-file-system-is-defined

http://askubuntu.com/questions/456743/root-file-system-not-defined-
please-correct-this-from-partitioning-menu-ubunt

I have never used QtParted. In researching QtParted, there is differing
opinions about it still being maintained. I have had good luck with GParted.

 What is the "SCS14sdc Files" partition? I may be having brain fade, but
don't remember any thing like that.

http://linuxexchange.org/questions/589/what-are-the-default-partition-
names-in-linux

Below, is taken from above site.
By default, most distributions will have 3 partitions, root or / "swap" and
"Home"

some are even more simple but not recommended. Ubuntu used to just create a
root partition and a "swap" partition when you went with automatic install
erase entire disk. I am not sure if they changed that "not-good" practice.
The problem with not creating a home partition is that there is a very high
chance that you will loose all your personal files and settings if something
happens to the root partition or if you are installing or upgrading to a
newer version of your distro.

Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, ask here.

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Helmut JH
Sorry I haven't got back sooner. Been very busy. I am also retired. I have never installed Windows dual boot, with Ubuntu already on the computer. Please study this site.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/6317/how-can-i-install-windows-after-ive-installed-ubuntu

What you will need to do, is reinstall Kubuntu. This will put you back to the dual boot you had.

Linux uses three partitions for security reasons. Here is what I found about sandbox. It is mentioned at site below. Second site has more information about partitioning.

In computer security, a sandbox is a security mechanism for separating running programs. It is often used to execute untested code, or untrusted programs from unverified third parties, suppliers, untrusted users and untrusted websites.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/35676/how-to-choose-a-partition-scheme-for-your-linux-pc/

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes

I have never used MS DISKPART. GParted works well with Linux.

I have included much information, and details. The reason is, usually engineers are detail people. Only you can determine if you will use Linux. My reasoning to use Linux, is when I retired in 2008, I needed to cut cost. Also I was very tired of viruses and malware. When I pay for something, I expect a good finished product, Windows is not. Linux is free, so I will accept a work in progress. Linux has less trouble with viruses.

I hope this is some help to you. If you have any more questions I will try to answer quicker.

Hello, Michael
First, there is no cause to be sorry, you offer your involvement and advice at your discretion and I thank you for both.
Unfortunately, none of the URLs you forwarded did me any good, my problem is simply my inability to install either Kubuntu or Ubuntu on my desktop. At an earlier time I had managed to install Kubuntu 14.04 from an on-line purchased disk onto the intended 2nd 465 GB partition on the first 931 GB HDD. I had noticed that this installation had also resulted in the selected partition bein further divided and two smaller partitons having been added. I had not been able to open or find out anything about these new partitions and only DISKPART enabled me to delete them.
When I now try to install either Kubuntu from the same disk or Ubuntu 15.04 from a downloaded and burned ISO file, the first option that comes up "install Kubuntu alongside" decides in a partition unknown to myself and apparently indicates the resulting partitions on the disk, only to tell me upon "continue" that "no root system is defined" and I am completely lost on how to fix this, the offered direction notwithstanding. The same end result comes up when I take the option "something else" and select either the intended partition or the complete disk.
I have finally contacted a local enterprise offering assistance on pc problems, but they politely declined to get involved.
Not a good omen. Regards Helmut JH

Helmut JH
Some thoughts, have you been able to run Ubuntu or Kubuntu as a live CD (actually DVD)? I have tried to find a good explanation, of the partitions, and that includes a good picture. Not had much luck. I found the site below, it is old, and does not set partitions the way I do.

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome

I use three partitions " / " -- " swap " -- " /home ". This works fine for me. Note the first partition is " / " (root). Second partition is " swap ", usually 1.5 to 2.0 times amount of ram installed. Third partition " /home ". The amount of space you have on the hard drive, will determine size of " / " and " /home ". I put most space in " /home ", but keep in mind, if " / " is to small, you can have problems running out of space. I just read that you should have minimum 15GB for " / ". Use ext4 for file system. At the "create new partitions screen", there should be two pull down screens to set what file system, and name of partitions.

Hello Michael
Thank yyou for your further information and suggestions. Yes, I can run both
Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 15.04 from the live CD. Eventually, the desktop
comes up with 14 icons in a vertical column at the left edge of the screen
as shown in the second edition of "Getting started with Ubuntu", plus a slew
of keyboard shortcuts spread across the whole screen. Of course, I have no
clue what these icons lead to, except the one that goes back to the install
option. This in turn leads to the well known obstacles, ie "no system root
defined" and/or the requirement of archiving changes that I am not aware of.
Just to recapitulate: My first nominal 1000 GB HDD is divided into two
partitions of about 465 Gb each, with the first partition carrying Win 7 and
the second partiton empty. Two more 500 GB HDDs have just one partiton each
of again 465 GB, the first one carrying A Norton Ghost backup image of Win 7
and the second one also with a Norton Ghost backup image of Kubuntu in the
second partition, now empty, of disk 0, dated 25 June, 2015. I have tried to
recover this image, but no luck. I guess I will try again. Regards Helmut
JH
PS: The Wubi Guide from wiki.ubuntu.com "Wubi is an officially supported
installer for Windows XP, Vista and 7 users that allows Ubuntu to be
installed and uninstalled in a safe easy wayas with any other Windows
application. Food for thought??

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Your question #270028 on ubiquity in Ubuntu changed:
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michael posted a new comment:
Helmut JH
Some thoughts, have you been able to run Ubuntu or Kubuntu as a live CD
(actually DVD)? I have tried to find a good explanation, of the partitions,
and that includes a good picture. Not had much luck. I found the site below,
it is old, and does not set partitions the way I do.

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome

I use three partitions " / " -- " swap " -- " /home ". This works fine for
me. Note the first partition is " / " (root). Second partition is " swap ",
usually 1.5 to 2.0 times amount of ram installed. Third partition " /home ".
The amount of space you have on the hard drive, will determine size of " / "
and " /home ". I put most space in " /home ", but keep in mind, if " / " is
to small, you can have problems running out of space. I just read that you
should have minimum 15GB for " / ".
Use ext4 for file system. At the "create new partitions screen", there
should be two pull down screens to set what file system, and name of
partitions.

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Helmut JH
I have never used Wubi. Please see site below. Look on the right side of the page, you will see that it has not been maintained for three years. The development status is discontinued. Some of the people answering, will say it was not a good program when it was maintained, and should be avoided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28software%29

Hello, Michael
I am not sure whether or not I have already responded to this, your post, I
had some other issues with my desktop. You may not have knowingly used Wubi,
but if you look at the contents of your Ubuntu/Kubuntu installation disk,
you will find that Wubi s an essential component of the programs. Regards
Helmut JH

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Your question #270028 on ubiquity in Ubuntu changed:
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Helmut JH
I have never used Wubi. Please see site below. Look on the right side of the
page, you will see that it has not been maintained for three years. The
development status is discontinued. Some of the people answering, will say
it was not a good program when it was maintained, and should be avoided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28software%29

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