Will Taskjuggler be in Natty?
Taskjuggler is not currently (as of 5 April, 2011) included in Natty Narwhal, although it is included in previous Ubuntu releases. Will it make it in before Natty is released?
Mal
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It was removed from Debian unstable, according to this: http://
So it doesn't look like that version it will make it into natty.
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Some things you could do:
(1) Download the source code (http://
(2) Download the .rpm package (see above download page) and attempt to install it with the utility called alien. You'll have to manually keep it up to date by installing subsequent versions' .rpm packages as they come out. This method might or might not work.
(3) Try installing the Lucid or Maverick versions of Taskjuggler from https:/
Of those options, I suggest downloading and building from source, though you may find other options to be easier or less time-consuming. If you want more information about any of those options or experience any problems with any of them, please feel free to post a reply about that.
You may also want to submit a bug report as a feature request for this package to be supported in Ubuntu. It was removed from Debian, but that is not the only way that packages can get into Ubuntu. Such a request will not get it added to Natty, but might get it added back in as of Oneiric Ocelot (Ubuntu 11.10). To learn how to do this, please read https:/
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Thanks for the prompt responses, and the detailed answer provided by Eliah. I have taken your advice and submitted a bug report (https:/
Regards, Mal
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Could you please post the instructions for referencing the maverick repository for this program?
The logic of removing a program from the repository because it is not being ported to KDE4 doesn't seem sound to me. There is no better alternative at the moment.
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"The logic of removing a program from the repository because it is not being ported to KDE4 doesn't seem sound to me."
It takes developer resources (time and effort) to maintain a package for a new release. Generally speaking, a package should not be provided in official repositories (even in the Universe and Multiverse components) unless there exists a genuine commitment to providing updates in a timely manner when security and severe stability/usability bugs are discovered, at least when these bugs are patched upstream.
In addition, KDE3 programs don't always work correctly with KDE4--they may depend on older versions of some libraries, which themselves cannot be installed because they conflict with the newer versions. KRec is an example of this (see https:/
I'll post again shortly about enabling the Maverick software sources but limiting what packages can be installed from them. This is most commonly done when enabling *newer* software sources (like a repository from a later release, or your release's backports repository: https:/
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Correction: "In any case, I agree that it would be nice if taskjuggler can be repackaged for Oneiric (and if it is, then added to maverick-backports and natty-backports)."
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Re-correction: Sorry, just natty-backports. (It's already in Maverick, after all.)
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By the way, I downloaded the .deb for the latest version of taskjuggler from Debian and it seems to install and run fine.
The app that installed it is called gdebi. IT seems to be a KDE3 app too. I hope no one labels that (or anything else) as KDE3-cruft until the successor is ready.
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gedbi is actually a command line program. But there are two graphical frontends-
If you're using the Debian package, you're not going to want to enable the Maverick repository, but you could add the relevant Debian repositories and use pinning to prevent automatic upgrading-to and installation-of Debian packages, when packages of the same name are provided by your Ubuntu repositories: https:/
If you want to use the Maverick (or Lucid) package, it seems that the best thing to do is simply to enable the relevant Maverick (or Lucid) repositories, and when you install software, make sure it's not coming from those repositories unless you want it to (as is the case for taskjuggler). You could use pinning as an extra measure of safety, but it doesn't really apply to this situation, because packages in the Natty repositories would have higher versions anyway; thus, software from the Maverick or Lucid repositories would not be automatically installed or upgraded to, when a package of the same name exists in Natty.
The best way to enable the Maverick (or Lucid) or Debian repositories is probably to run the Update Manager, click Settings... to open up the Software Sources window, then click the Other Software tab and click the Add... button near the lower-left corner of the window. Then add the APT lines of the repositories you want to enable, one at a time. For Maverick, assuming you want to use the US mirrors, these would be:
deb http://
deb-src http://
deb http://
deb-src http://
deb http://
deb-src http://
That is to say that you would add six software sources. You could probably get away with not adding the deb-src sources, and maybe even (if you have already manually installed the .deb package for taskjuggler from Maverick) without either of the first two sources (because you only need maverick-updates and maverick-security to make sure you get updates to taskjuggler as they are released for Maverick).
That will probably be sufficient, and I recommend you try adding those six lines (or fewer than those six, as described above) before this. But it's possible you may need to add the repositories for the main component of Maverick (as well as the universe component), in order for some dependencies to be resolved:
deb http://
deb-src http://
If you are outside the US you'll probably want to use a mirror closer to you, rather than the US mirror. You can take a look at the file /etc/apt/
The version from the Maverick repositories is probably less likely to have problems on your Natty system, but the version from the Debian repositories will probably be a later version and should receive updates for a longer time (probably for a longer time even than the version from the Lucid repositories, which would probably be even older).
I'll post again soon with instructions for enabling the Debian repositories (unless you tell me that you don't want to do that--then I won't bother).
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Sorry about the delay.
I you want to enable Debian repositories for taskjuggler in your Natty system, you'll have to use the repositories for Debian 6.0 squeeze (or Debian 5.0 lenny, but there's probably no reason to do that--there would certainly be no benefit to that, over using Maverick's repositories), since taskjuggler is also being removed from Debian for releases following squeeze (i.e., it won't be present in Debian 7.0 wheezy), and it's not present in sid (which is the perpetual codename for the testing version).
If you do this, then as explained in my previous post, it is also important that you use pinning, or lots of your Ubuntu packages might get automatically "upgraded" to the Debian versions, which will result in you having a hybrid Debian-Ubuntu system that very likely won't function (possibly not at all). If you allow this to happen, there is really no way to undo it (besides doing a fresh installation of Ubuntu).
You can add the Debian repositories the same way as you'd add the Maverick repositories (as described in my previous post). These are the APT lines:
deb http://
deb-src http://
deb http://
deb http://
deb-src http://
deb-src http://
As with the Maverick repositories:
(1) It should work fine if you leave out the deb-src repositories.
(2) If you've already manually installed the Debian package for taskjuggler, it might work fine if you leave off the first two of the six repositories (since any updates would be issued in squeeze/updates or squeeze-
(3) You may want to pick a different mirror, particularly if you're not in the United States; http://
Unlike with the Maverick repositories:
(1) You do need main, because the main component in Debian includes all the software that is free (as in freedom) and depends only on other software that is free. That includes taskjuggler. (In Ubuntu, the main component is only for software officially supported by Canonical; in Maverick, taskjuggler is instead in the universe component.)
(2) You probably do want the squeeze-
[Feel free to skip the following three paragraphs.]
Actually, my explanation in (2) is a big oversimplification; read http://
Please note that, if you read http://
What you *could* do is to enable squeeze-updates instead of squeeze-
[OK, it's very important that you stop skipping now.]
As explained above, once you enable Debian repositories, it is important that you use pinning to deprioritize these repositories *before* installing or upgrading any packages. Most packages in Natty are at higher versions that most packages in squeeze, so the effects of failing to do this might not be immediately obvious, and might turn out to be inconsequential. Or they could be very serious indeed.
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Sir - After a complete system reinstall of oneiric, as you suggested, I added the following lines to my /etc/apt/
deb http://
deb http://
deb http://
deb http://
I performed the following commands.
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install taskjuggler
taskjuggler downloaded, installed, and runs fine. Thanks for the help.