Is Agnes winnable or, if yes, what are the rules

Asked by Diane Asoyuf on 2010-12-28

I cannot win the solitaire game Agnes in Aisle Riot. Either I do not know how to play or it is not a game that can be won. I am not usually stumped by solitaire games, but this one looks extremely simple, but I can't win it. It is just a matter of following suit and trying to get all the cards uncovered and up on top in sequential order. If it can be won, please send me the rules. Tks
Diane Asoyuf

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Diane Asoyuf (diane-asoyuf) said : #2

mycae wrote:
> Your question #139347 on gnome-games in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+question/139347
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> mycae proposed the following answer:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_%28card_game%29
>
>
If I understand the rules correctly, I should have 7 cards in the
reserve and I am only getting 1.

Diane Asoyuf

mycae (mycae) said : #3

According to their manual, they do not use a reserve -- you have to score as many points as you can by making valid moves.

http://library.gnome.org/users/aisleriot/stable/Agnes.html.en

mycae (mycae) said : #4

According to :
http://www.goodsol.com/pgshelp/agnes_sorel.htm

The variant name is:
Agnes Sorel

and the scoring is mostly luck.

mycae (mycae) said : #5

You might want to create a bug report, asking for an implementation of the other agnes variant, as a "wishlist" item; however it probably won't happen any time soon, as this would be up to whomever wrote the game to decide that they want to follow your suggestion, and then do it.

Diane Asoyuf (diane-asoyuf) said : #6

mycae wrote:
> Your question #139347 on gnome-games in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+question/139347
>
> mycae proposed the following answer:
> You might want to create a bug report, asking for an implementation of
> the other agnes variant, as a "wishlist" item; however it probably won't
> happen any time soon, as this would be up to whomever wrote the game to
> decide that they want to follow your suggestion, and then do it.
>
>
When I checked in the place you provided in the first email there was a
reserve of 7 cards. Did I misunderstand that?

Best mycae (mycae) said : #7

Yes, at the bottom of that link, in the text:

"There are two versions of the game of Agnes. The one described above is called Agnes Bernauer. In another version called Agnes Sorel (no connection to the woman with the same name), the game is played the same way except the cards in the tableau are built down by color, i.e. Red suits on red, black suits on black. Furthermore, in Agnes Sorel, spaces are not filled. David Parlett gave these two versions their separate names.[1][2]"

The game you are currently playing is Sorel, and does not have a reserve. The game in the Image is Bernauer.

Diane Asoyuf (diane-asoyuf) said : #8

mycae wrote:
> Your question #139347 on gnome-games in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+question/139347
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> mycae proposed the following answer:
> Yes, at the bottom of that link, in the text:
>
> "There are two versions of the game of Agnes. The one described above is
> called Agnes Bernauer. In another version called Agnes Sorel (no
> connection to the woman with the same name), the game is played the same
> way except the cards in the tableau are built down by color, i.e. Red
> suits on red, black suits on black. Furthermore, in Agnes Sorel, spaces
> are not filled. David Parlett gave these two versions their separate
> names.[1][2]"
>
> The game you are currently playing is Sorel, and does not have a
> reserve. The game in the Image is Bernauer.
>
>
Tks
I don't think it can be won.

Diane Asoyuf

Diane Asoyuf (diane-asoyuf) said : #9

Thanks mycae, that solved my question.

Diane Asoyuf (diane-asoyuf) said : #10

Let me qualify please. It answered part of my question. I still don't think the game is solvable, but I do appreciate and thank you very much for your help.

Arnold Goldman (zarcon18) said : #11

No answer is not an answer. This is as confusing as playing Aisle Riot