why cant evolution save emails the same way as outlook express

Evolution has bugs but saving email in the current format is not one of them.

Donato, I do not understand your post. Are you saying that you can save emails, including pictures, in the same format as Outlook Express uses? If so, how do you do that? Because it does not happen from clicking on File/Save Copy.

Are you talking of messages in HTML format or of linked image file ?

Any format and embedded images, not links. What I'm getting at is when I save an email to my documents folder using 'file', 'save message', what I get does not include images, if there were any, and the format is raw mime.

I don't understand:
else you have message in text format with attached file, and in this case the image is embedded in file as hexadecimal
else you have HTML format, and image is URL to a web site

in the first case, you have to read the file in evolution to get the image (there are also tools to convert hexadecimal encoding into binary encoding)
in the second case, you get the URL

perhaps you want that like browser, the URL are replaced by a folder with download image

Can you be more explicit on what you need ?

The following is an example of what a saved email looks like in my documents. Didn't look like that when I received it.I don't know how to explain the picture issue better. It is just that if I get an email with pictures embedded, not an attachment, the pictures aren't saved when I save the email.

From <email address hidden> Thu Mar 11 12:57:22 2010
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Your question #103934 on evolution in ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/103934

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I don't understand:
else you have message in text format with attached file, and in this case the image is embedded in file as hexadecimal
else you have HTML format, and image is URL to a web site

in the first case, you have to read the file in evolution to get the image (there are also tools to convert hexadecimal encoding into binary encoding)
in the second case, you get the URL

perhaps you want that like browser, the URL are replaced by a folder
with download image

Can you be more explicit on what you need ?

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Launchpad doesn't accept attached file.
Can you send me an example of what you call an e-mail with embedded image at this address ?

      <email address hidden>

There is a third solution, which is to have HTML format, with URL to a attached image file.
This such an example.
The image is the text between:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
and
--=-HvMVe1Dg8soKrSrVqc+9--
And the image is really saved in message.

From <email address hidden> Thu Mar 11 14:25:30 2010
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 11 Mar 2010 14:25:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: image
From: xxxxxxxxx <email address hidden>
To: gmail <email address hidden>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DXrYf5qJKtoGpmKPqG+G"
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:25:23 +0000
Message-ID: <1268346323.5025.2.camel@delance-desktop>
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1
X-Evolution-Source: imap://<email address hidden>/

--=-DXrYf5qJKtoGpmKPqG+G
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-HvMVe1Dg8soKrSrVqc+9"

--=-HvMVe1Dg8soKrSrVqc+9
Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative";
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--=-wWGqfGt4aWrdZKCjICvp
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-GoLcvKEJqP2cJuo0t5d6"

--=-GoLcvKEJqP2cJuo0t5d6
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ode

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Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
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  <META NAME=3D"GENERATOR" CONTENT=3D"GtkHTML/3.28.1">
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<IMG SRC=3D"cid:1268346302.5025.0.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx-desktop" ALIGN=3D"bottom" B=
ORDER=3D"0">ode
</BODY>
</HTML>

--=-GoLcvKEJqP2cJuo0t5d6--

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Content-ID: <1268346302.5025.0.camel@xxxxxxxxxxx-desktop>
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="yan.jpg"
Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="yan.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

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Isn't this complicating something that should be very simple. My original query was 'why can't evolution save emails the same way that outlook express does'. When an email is saved on outlook it is retained in the original as received format with pictures, if any, included.

I don't see the difference with my last post. But I don't use Outlook with pictures embeded.
What's the difference between third Evolution format and Outlook format ?
In Evolution in last case, the picture is embedded and can be seen if you open via Evolution the file.

I don't know the difference, I just know what works and what doesn't on my machine. At this stage though I have given up on saving emails to 'my documents', and instead will keep them in folders within Evolution, which seems to resolve the issue. Thanks for your input.

So I'll call the problem resolved.