Jaunty or Karmic ?

Asked by mountglen

I want to try Ubuntu but hear a new version Karmic Koala is coming out in about 6 weeks. Would it be best to wait for that version or now try the current Jaunty Jackelope one ? Have been usiing PC's since 1995 and am reasonably competant but no-where near expert ! Any advice would be appreciated - thanks.

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Best marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#1

Usually is preferable to use a stable release so i suggest you Ubuntu 9.04 standard desktop 32 bits (Codename: Jaunty Jackalope).

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation

Hope this helps

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#2

Thanks marcobra (Marco Braida), that solved my question.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#3

Yes, or even just try Jaunty as a LiveCd
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
just to see what it looks like before installing it
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

The upgrade to the new version is usually fairly easy and many people will be doing the same thing at the same time so there should be plenty of questions in here if you run into any slight troubles. Also every version has 18months support which means jaunty has 1 years worth of support left which gives plenty of time to upgrade - no need to rush :)

Regards from
Tom :)

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#4

Thanks Tom

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Tom <email address hidden>wrote:

> Your question #82554 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/82554
>
> Tom posted a new comment:
> Yes, or even just try Jaunty as a LiveCd
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
> just to see what it looks like before installing it
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
>
> The upgrade to the new version is usually fairly easy and many people
> will be doing the same thing at the same time so there should be plenty
> of questions in here if you run into any slight troubles. Also every
> version has 18months support which means jaunty has 1 years worth of
> support left which gives plenty of time to upgrade - no need to rush :)
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
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Tom (tom6) said :
#5

You are welcome :)
Have fun, regards from
Tom :)

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pepperblue (ayashif) said :
#6

I second Tom as i was a victim of many bugs from the 9.10 alpha-4 release i that even lead me to reinstall my jaunty... Better use stable version..

Enjoy the ubuntu...
The Yash!!!

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Tom (tom6) said :
#7

Lol, there is a trick. Install one version of Ubuntu to use as your main stable OS on the machine. Then create an extra partition (or 2) for testing out other distros or even other versions of Ubuntu without it affecting your main Ubuntu :)

A neat trick that even some 'distro hoppers' forget to use sometimes ;)

I hope this helps Yash!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#8

Thanks to all , Marco, Tom ,the yash but have made a decision to wait till the stable version of Karmic comes out in 6 weeks - looks a winner !

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Tom (tom6) said :
#9

Lol you are welcome but i still think a LiveCd session mgith help prepare you by letting you get a good look and feel your way around without affecting your machine at all. It's quite a nice demo of Ubuntu. It's worth checking out the LiveCd's of a few other distros too, just to compare the differences.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#10

Thanks Tom - will consider - have read good reports re Karmic and note its

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Tom <email address hidden>wrote:

> Your question #82554 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/82554
>
> Tom posted a new comment:
> Lol you are welcome but i still think a LiveCd session mgith help
> prepare you by letting you get a good look and feel your way around
> without affecting your machine at all. It's quite a nice demo of
> Ubuntu. It's worth checking out the LiveCd's of a few other distros
> too, just to compare the differences.
>
> Good luck and regards from
> Tom :)
>
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> You received this question notification because you are a direct
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Tom (tom6) said :
#11

Karmic seems fine to me so far. I might be just lucky but everything seems to work for me. Yes, i have just touched wood in case it all breaks for my machine at the first beta lol, that would b hilarious ;) (such things are vaguely plausible but are unlikely to happen)

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#12

Thanks Tom - you might have tempted me to try alpha 5 o maybe 6 when its out
!

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Tom <email address hidden>wrote:

> Your question #82554 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/82554
>
> Tom posted a new comment:
> Karmic seems fine to me so far. I might be just lucky but everything
> seems to work for me. Yes, i have just touched wood in case it all
> breaks for my machine at the first beta lol, that would b hilarious ;)
> (such things are vaguely plausible but are unlikely to happen)
>
> Good luck and regards from
> Tom :)
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are a direct
> subscriber of the question.
>

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#13

mountglen i use Karmic from pre alpha1 with ext4 partition on 3 pc of 5 pc and it works almost fine but sometimes i must dress some bug... for example i have the bug 427822 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/427822

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+bugs

Here my reported bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/~marcobra

Please install Karmic if you want help Ubuntu team to detect bugs, but keep near you a pc with a stable release of Ubuntu so you can look for help or informations when a blocking bug hit your pc with the unstable Karmic.

Hope this helps

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mountglen (mountglen) said :
#14

Thanks marco and also for your original reply to my question - i might just
wait till beta then

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:34 PM, marcobra (Marco Braida) <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Your question #82554 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/82554
>
> marcobra (Marco Braida) posted a new comment:
> mountglen i use Karmic from pre alpha1 with ext4 partition on 3 pc of 5
> pc and it works almost fine but sometimes i must dress some bug... for
> example i have the bug 427822
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/427822
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+bugs
>
> Here my reported bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/~marcobra
>
> Please install Karmic if you want help Ubuntu team to detect bugs, but
> keep near you a pc with a stable release of Ubuntu so you can look for
> help or informations when a blocking bug hit your pc with the unstable
> Karmic.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> --
> You received this question notification because you are a direct
> subscriber of the question.
>

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Tom (tom6) said :
#15

Lol, i still say try it out as a LiveCd. If anything doesn't work then report it as a bug-report if you like, it certainly helps the alpha release be more ready faster. Also posting your own bug-reports from your own machine means the developers have more of a focus for making the final release work even better on your particular machine.

Posting bug-reports is fun and a lot easier than it sounds. It's a lot like posting a question and you have done fine in here. Bug-squad have some slightly better tools which makes it easier to post bug-report than it is to post questions in Answers Secton here.

However, since you are new and probably couldn't stand the thrill and excitement of seeing high-powered people attend to your personal needs then i would suggest a LiveCd of Jaunty just to get ready & be a little more prepared for the whole migration thing.

Marcobra is a developer so he might make it sound a little more tricky than it is for most of us that just use Ubuntu for fun and officey type work and stuff :)

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#16

Tom i'm not an Ubuntu developer, i'm working in a italian local government structure and i i'm a Gis technician i was also network admin and software and website developer my first learn pc was an Olivetti server with Sco Unix (1990) and then MS-dos and Clipper lang to develop software for my works then VisualObjects to develop on Win http://www.cavo.com/ then Php, Postgresql and other... to get web access to the data.

My first Linux was a Redhat 5 that i using as server.
Now at works i have and i use only Ubuntu 9.04 32bit desktops.

In my private place i have Openbsd as lan firewall and Fedora for web and mail server and Ubuntu on Desktops.

BTW my favorite programming language that i working with today is Harbour www.harbour-project.org (Clipper compiler)
and for my GIS software under Ubuntu i use Qgis http://www.qgis.org/, Grass http://grass.itc.it/ and OpenJump http://www.openjump.org/, Postgresql http://www.postgresql.org/ and Postgis http://postgis.refractions.net/

And i'm glad to stop to use Windows but i still have a lot of software developed on it and sometimes i need to boot with my old win98 to get some data.

I'm glad to use inexpensive open source software to do my work.

Best regards.