How to use Keyring Manager? Why HELP is not available in feisty?

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but you can manage keyrings from system -> admin -> keyring manager. I'm not sure what you mean by help is not available in feisty. There is help and support under the system menu but I don't think it's overly in depth. Must of the support is online. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty is a good place to start.

Are you sure there is information regarding 'keyring manager' at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/ ? If there is, you have to point me to the proper URL.

Well the help that I have is really brief. :) the content is

Key Manager
Introduction
Welcome

If yours contain more, you can sent me those. Or tell me how to retrieve it from the net.

Anyway getting back to my question.

I am able to access the keyring manager. I am wondering how to use it to keep my 'keys' or password. There are no key(s) and there is no option to add key(s) to the manager. Ironically, there is a 'delete key' option.

I come to understand that whenever I use an app that ask for password, this will be kept in the keyring. But mine has none.

I hope someone who has been using this can help guide me, have you ever use this yourself, by the way?

The wiki link was just a general help page to answer the second part of your question about help not being available. It wasn't specifically related to the keyring.

As for the keyring manager, once you open it from the system -> admin menu click on "keyring" on the menu bar and choose new keyring. It says the short cut is shift-ctrl-N if that helps.

I've never used it to manually add keys but most apps that want to store something seem to add them automatically. My laptop has 3 keys in there. I don't know if all apps use it or not. Mine are related to wireless networking (nm-applet) and using ssh to log into my desktop.

Okay. I did some playing with this and to be honest I don't see that it does anything other than old the passwords from apps that use it. I also did some googling and didn't come up with any directions. What exactly are you trying to do with the keyring manger? If I understand correctly, you don't actually add anything to it - only apps do.

Thanks for you effort and reply.

What I understand from my exploration in the net is, the keys/passwords that we use can be reused without being type in again and again. I would find this useful to keep passwords for those repetitive requests.

Ubuntu Feisty do only ask for SU password once per session for eg

1. In a terminal, it only ask once for sudo until I closed it.
2. Synaptics, only once till I closed it.

I wonder others apps like firefox websites logins can be made the same, using a master keyring password. This should me more secure than what currently password caches.

There are options like that that but not via the keyring. For any app that uses the keyring, it will allow you to only have to remember one password. Firefox can also remember passwords, and you can set a master password or try one of the many extensions. They will not work with the keyring however, unless there is an extension that does that. For firefox, there is the magic password extension that might be kind of what you are looking for.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/874

Sudo and Synaptic will time out after about 15 minutes of non use so it's not really per session if you leave it open longer and unused. But you are right, it is a convenience. Any app that tries to access the keyring will cause a window to open asking for access to the keyring so it will save you from having to type in a long wireless passphrase, for example, but not eliminate the need to have to type in something. In any case, I don't think there is anything yet that will manage ALL passwords both locally and online.

Sorry that is not the answer you are looking for, but I hope it gets you close to what you want.

Well the help that I have is really brief. :) the content is

"Key Manager
Introduction
Welcome"

That about sums up what I can find on Keyring manager as well.
I was able to add keyrings manually & enter passwords, but haven't figured out how to associate the keyring with an application.
Why do all this if Firefox has a password manager? Well, it seems to me, Firefox only remembers passwords for pages it selects, & I'm not sure how secure all this is, so I thought keyring manager might be more secure.
I have a Toshiba A205-S4587 laptop with Windows Vista that uses a fingerprint scanner & ties it to a password file. I have Fiesty Fawn 7.04 installed on the same machine, & if I can figure out how to get that feature to work with it (Ubuntu), it's good-bye Vista!
Please keep me posted on any solutions.

I haven't have the way to fully utilizes the keyring manager to keep and re-use password as I have intended to. Maybe it is not design for normal user like me to use, instead for those who have the skills in programming.

IMHO, for PB, the problem should lies on the driver and application for the device to work with Ubuntu rather than the key manager as it seems that the device application can provide the same service as the key manager in Vista.

I think our fingerprint itself should be authentic and strong password by itself without needing other passwords. If PB can do that, PB only need his fingerprint as password in UBUNTU as linux is already a good secure OS. That purely my opinion.

The fingerprint scanner I refer to interfaces with vista via Protector Suite
QL which is, believe it or not, an open-source project! This is their site:
http://www.openssl.org/

In VISTA, it registers pass words that you create when entering a secure web
site. It is not (at this time) comparing a fingerprint swipe with one
registered at that site. It's really nothing more than a fancy front end for
a program like Access Manager 2.0 or FireFox's password manager, as I see
it. There is still going to be a file, somewhere on your hard drive with
pass words that can be vulnerable, I think.

PB

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> I haven't have the way to fully utilizes the keyring manager to keep and
> re-use password as I have intended to. Maybe it is not design for normal
> user like me to use, instead for those who have the skills in
> programming.
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> IMHO, for PB, the problem should lies on the driver and application for
> the device to work with Ubuntu rather than the key manager as it seems
> that the device application can provide the same service as the key
> manager in Vista.
>
> I think our fingerprint itself should be authentic and strong password
> by itself without needing other passwords. If PB can do that, PB only
> need his fingerprint as password in UBUNTU as linux is already a good
> secure OS. That purely my opinion.
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