what different ubuntu 7.10 / 8.04 / 8.10 / 9.04 / 9.10

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yelp! what reliable version should be used to minimize time problem help to finishing installation for work to help

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Larry Jordan (larryjor) said :
#1

     I'm using 9.04 - everything seemed to work fine after checking it from a live CD.

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benny (b3ny) said :
#2

well,
where the space for 9.04 here?
benny@b3nY:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for benny:

Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/hdc3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/hdc5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 6049 6352 2441817 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 6353 6374 176683+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#3

Seem you have more one release of Ubuntu installed and I'm quite confused do you want remove some installed release of Ubuntu from your disk... ?
if yes, can you copy and paste here the contents of your /boot/grub/menu.lst from a terminal type:

gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst

Thank you

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benny (b3ny) said :
#4

benny@b3nY:~$ gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
# grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
# and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default 0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
#
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=9a0c9978-2838-41f5-b6bb-05084ab28427 ro

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,1)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9a0c9978-2838-41f5-b6bb-05084ab28427 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=9a0c9978-2838-41f5-b6bb-05084ab28427 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root

# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hdc1
title Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1

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benny (b3ny) said :
#5

need one ubuntu whatever version decrease problem

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#6

If you read your meu.lst that you have pasted, you are running Gutsy which is long dead and not officially supported.

The version number relates to the year and month of release.

E.g.

9.04 was released April 2009, the next release is 9.10 which is in Alpha and is due for release in October 2009

The releases have progressively later kernels and different versions of xorg which in turn need apps compiling different which is why you should not mix repos as you will get issues (Some people like to learn the hard way though). A Jaunty repo is for Jaunty, a Gutsy repo is for Gutsy.

As your install is old, I suggest you clean install as upgrading to Jaunty will involve an initial upgrade to Hardy, then to intrepid, then to Jaunty which will take a fair whack of time. Make sure your backups of home are recent if they are not on a seperate partition

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benny (b3ny) said :
#7

Yes of course:
benny@b3nY:~$ sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo ap-get -f install; sudo apt-get upgrade
[sudo] password for benny:
Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
Fetched 1B in 2s (0B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
sudo: ap-get: command not found
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  acpi-support apt apt-utils aptitude at-spi bluez-gnome bluez-utils
  bogofilter-bdb brltty brltty-x11 bug-buddy capplets-data compiz compiz-core
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  xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-glint
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-imstt
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  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
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  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga xserver-xorg-video-via
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xutils yelp zenity
The following packages will be upgraded:
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  app-install-data-commercial apparmor apparmor-utils apport apport-gtk apturl
  aspell avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon base-files base-passwd bash bc
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  libss2 libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6 libsysfs2 libtag1c2a libtasn1-3 libtheora0
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benny (b3ny) said :
#8

Sorry error! oh i can not remove message. sorry err paste

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Tom (tom6) said :
#9

I think updating and even upgrading is pointless until you get your partitions sorted out. Otherwise you may need to just go through the update/upgrade again another time :(

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Tom (tom6) said :
#10

It's ok Benny, don't worry ;)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#11

Ok so yu are in 7.10? Can you find gparted and tell us all the information that it gives in the bottom half of it's window? Thanks Beeny :)

Now go up to the button at the top right-hand corner - it should be something like "/dev/hdc 74.4Gb Media". When you click on it there should be 2 options, please choose "/dev/sda ... "

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benny (b3ny) said :
#12

hmm wait, terminal still open. i do ever select Y on previous then make me busy to zero.
why they are not let this cd to upgrade running smooth.
I got red and yellow cd from shipit. They sent post stamp from netherland said 2007.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#13

Ooops, sorry about those typos!
yu = you
and sorry i got your name wrong there.

When gparted is looking at sda please right-click on sda7 and choose "Swap Off", then right-click on sda7 again and choose "Delete". Then on sda6 right-click and choose "umount" or "unmount" and then delete sda6. Ok? Now click on the "Apply" button. That should leave you with a grey "unallocated" space?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#14

Click "n" on that terminal console

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Tom (tom6) said :
#15

I think it's ok to have more than 1 thing open at a time. For that terminal console you should just need to click just beside the "Do you want to continue [Y/n]?" so that you can type

n

in there

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benny (b3ny) said :
#16

It's ok Tom, don't worry ;)
I've been being download gparted
benny@b3nY:~$ sudo apt-get install gparted

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Tom (tom6) said :
#17

Oh, you probably wont be able to install gparted into 7.10
The 7.10 repositories of programs has been closed down because 7.10 is no longer supported. Perhaps try booting up a LiveCd session? That should have gparted already included :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#18

ya... 98% done how to undo/cancel?
I try to say $ sudo gparted command not found and suggest to type $ sudo get-install gparted.
I do follow, now it look 100% done install gparted inside 7.10
What how?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#19

Brilliant! Well if it has installed then please go ahead with deleting sda7 and sda6 :)

Linux is very variable so there are a lot of possibilities for how you've managed to install gparted - perhaps off the cd, perhaps a different repository somehow, perhaps you're not in 7.10

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benny (b3ny) said :
#20

yes done. I load slower there and try up clear page with new question.
sda6 and sda7 was delete
unallocated
... gparted move topic click here to continue https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/78265
thanks

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benny (b3ny) said :
#21

ok cancel https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/78265
i go paste here:
benny@b3nY:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/hdc3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/hdc5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

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benny (b3ny) said :
#22

After deleting sda7 and sda6 in gparted and pressing "Apply" please right-click in the space and make a new partition filling up that space, make it's "filesystem" = "linux-swap", then click on "Apply" again

both of them? sda7 and sda6
make it's "filesystem" = "linux-swap", then click on "Apply" again

I am really not familiar with this partition word.
what preceding (Mib)
what Free Space Following (MiB)
checkbox Round to cylinders?
so many option dropdown filesystem select linux-swap all?
how to know space for swap. I have ever read to decide swap: RAMx2
is that MiB=MB
sorry, this is first time, I see style kind this

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benny (b3ny) said :
#23

@TOM: perhaps you're not in 7.10
how to know where am I? what this forest name?
how to ensure this is 7.10 or what?
how to type uname?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#24

launchpad!
is this no problem to ask to much here? or someone will disturbed.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#25

To see which release are you running now open a terminal from Apllications→Accessories→Terminal and type:

lsb_release -rd

Thank you

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#26

Is not a problem to ask but we must keep questions and answers quite ordered... your thread will be read from other users in the future...

Thank you

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Tom (tom6) said :
#27

Ok, right now it doesn't matter which version of Ubuntu you are using. We need to sort your partitions out first. Can we worry about which version later?

I think the new sda6 partition should completely fill al that empty space. No space preceding and none following either.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#28

Please can you let us know how much ram you have and how much space that grey space is/was?

Mb = MB = MiB
but only approximately. You know how it is with machines and humans. Humans like to round things off, so if you say 1024Kb = 1Mb then when they see 1000Kb they'll call that 1Mb too <sighs deeply> <shakes head>

The "i" is meant to standardise exactly what people mean when they say 1Mb, i think it stands for "international" but i have no confidence in illogical, imprecise, averaging human beings like us all to stick pedantically to any restrictive definitions ;) heheheh

Anyway, there we go
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#29

ok, how to see ram info here.
I have 1MB RAM
I have 2 grey as unallocated space
-Grey unallocated space is 2,50GiB <= that was ever save for swap partition I guess
-Grey unallocated space is 7,84GiB <= too small I guess, it ever used for 9.04 in premature installation
Is that grey should be merger?
when 2 grey is merger the space unallocated has 10GB, enough?
but it should be possible to up size space make more space, and what will install inside freedspace?

I like high contrast inverse theme. klasik dark blue:-)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#30

Now that is interesting. i've not seen it set out like that before and this gives us a few advantages.

I think that moving sda5 will be tricky but worth it, getting the grey space together does give enough space for a good 9.04, we can also make good use of the space on the other drive later :)

To get all the grey together please first of all copy all the data from sda5 to a folder in hdc1. I would make a folder in hdc1 called "sda5-backup". Then open sda5 and copy the whole of the "Documents and Settings" folder into the new "sda5-backup" folder. Also have a look around in sda5 to see if there's anything else you want to make sure doesn't get lost and copy that into "sda5-backup" too. Ok? Please let me know when we can do the next step :)

Good luck with this, regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#31

Yes, tomorrow
I see sun blue here 04:434 o'clock
Thanks for chat help, need break
Anyway, are you sleepless. I am talking also with your nick last noon, good luck too

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Tom (tom6) said :
#32

Very late here too. Ok, tomorrow is good :)
G'nite, regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#33

How are you?

Both of ubuntu versi 8.04 and 9.04 install reinstall from xp windows running faster smooth done then restart

I do read kernel 9.04 on boot and select return Error 22
Error 22: Deskripsi like no such partisi

22 is unique num. It is always return same name of day whatever year on 22 may and 11 september. see masehi calendar if you doubt.
I knew sure, 22 may is my b'daY:-) star in gemini.
How come twin number has twin star and twin day? see due of month(2)

benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb3 19457 19457 8032+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

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benny (b3ny) said :
#34

Now it look better, I have done basic installation two versi of ubuntu are 7.10 and 8.04
With version 7.10 has no problem with video adapter while install following wide screen monitor ex: SynchMaster 933. But, black screen found while install ubuntu version 8.04 using same hardware beware if you new, you will blind push hard power down.
Listen music, video, tv or etc multimedia files found easy setup using ubuntu versi 8.04, but hardy using ubuntu version 7.10 is buntu.
I still fail install ubuntu version 9.04 under microsoft windows xp home edisi, but I read boot select for kernel version 9.04 return Error 22
I do ever to try using norton partition magic but it was my bad experience on year 2007.
Be careful with that.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#35

Hi benny

No grey spaces anymore? Please delete sdb6 and sdb3. To do this use your LiveCd session's gparted. Click the button at the top right-hand corner to change from "/dev/sda ..." to change it to "/dev/sdab ..."

Good luck benny, from
Tom:)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#36

Then resize sdb2 so that it fills all the grey space right to the end of the drive. Move sdb5 as far to the right as it will go, hopefully the very end of the drive. When you click on "Apply" this time it will take ages to move sdb5. It always does, it might take 2 hours!

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benny (b3ny) said :
#37

Hi tom,

Ya ubuntu 8.04 reinstall and retry 9.04:-)
Here sdb3 sdb6 delete

benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for benny:

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

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benny (b3ny) said :
#38

I have no problem install flash inside 8.04 version:-)
Nice, I can see my web TV live back

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benny (b3ny) said :
#39

I don't know how to to merge move resize
Many words I don't understand
I try to read some basic to understand how to manage kind partition style linux

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benny (b3ny) said :
#40

I will try using norton partition magic, it will fix error auto, and merge easy
But I need to find another storage to backup the data first i think

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benny (b3ny) said :
#41

always on top function in every windows, hehe thats one I looking for in windows to make always on top
Great job ubuntu!

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benny (b3ny) said :
#42

I read /dev/scd0 172.57 MiB unallocated

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Tom (tom6) said :
#43

Great, nicely done :)

Now just to resize sdb2 so that if ills up all the grey spaces too :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#44

scd0 is probably some memory card or a device like a camera or mobile phone or something plugged into the machine. Probably best if you don't mess around with that too much just yet. I would avoid it completely for now ;)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#45

Just copying the files from sdb5 to sda1 puts them on a different physical drive. It could possibly be better to get a large capacity Usb stick or external drive. scd0 doesn't seem to have much space at all - good for documents or a few pictures maybe but sda1 is better because it has so much more space i think?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#46

Sorry been away
how to know sdb5 in linux and the one is sda1
but inside sdb5 i see folder ubuntu
i should restart in windows
how to know sda1 or sdb5 in linux, i mean inside explorer

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benny (b3ny) said :
#47

yes I have that sdb1 and sdb5 as ntfs
the disk called sdb 2x bigger than sda
I've been away looking for my disk in others home:-)
now back disk and disk b right as simply mean, the disk a 100% windows and disk b about premature instalasi o/s like windows and ubuntu versi 9.04, but solved 8.04

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benny (b3ny) said :
#48

no, 7.10 and windows inside disk A
i need restart lah

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benny (b3ny) said :
#49

is this possible to recover all task inside ubuntu how
dont have to restart to xp

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benny (b3ny) said :
#50

unallocated space i will located as swap, both swap?
why not select ext3 or ext2 whats that

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Tom (tom6) said :
#51

Ahh, you wont be able to do this from inside Windows. You really need a LiveCd session to sort out all this partitioning and backing up stuff. If you can boot into a LiveCd session and then quickly give us the result of "sudo fdisk -l" then that shows us the addresses that version of ubuntu uses. We can help you rfrom their but not from inside Windows

Good luck as always ;)
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#52

oke, i hv located swap 2.50 and ext3 7.5
seem like this

benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for benny:

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb3 19457 19457 8032+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdb5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Restart live cd, oke

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Tom (tom6) said :
#53

I think we need to consolidate the unallocated space by moving the"6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS" to the very end of the drive. That's not really going to be possible from inside Windows because even the "norton" partition editor is not as strong as gparted. Windows likes to hide things such as "Extended Partitions" because they think it's all too confusing for people - so a lot of the work is going to be almost impossible in Windows or at best will give us very clumsy results.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#54

Great, thanks benny :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#55

So, have you copied the "Documents and Settings" folder from sdb5 to a new folder in sda1?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#56

You should be able to open an "explorer" type window/console by going up to the top taskbar and click on the "Places" menu, then choose the menu-item that say something like "50.3 Gb Media" keep trying different ones until you find the "explorer" type consoles for sdb5 and sda1

Good luck and happy hunting :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#57

oh, this is RED
the red 7.10 32 bit live cd have no problem with monitor but I have to setup network first done
This is live cd red cover from shipit still with amplop:-)
i'm not yet copy, well i will try copy it

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benny (b3ny) said :
#58

running from live cd, im not see gparted here, should be download again

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benny (b3ny) said :
#59

No, it read
ubuntu
Desktop
File System
disk
32.6 GB volume
40.5 GB volume
7.8 MB Volume
ubuntux
Trash

folder ubuntu inside ubuntux
there are ubuntu and my files. You mean copy my files leave ubuntu folder or ubuntux all copy to disk
how to know it is sda5 or sdb1 like right click properties

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Tom (tom6) said :
#60

Try opening "32.6 GB Volume" and then open " "40.5 GB Volume" and finally open "7.8 MB Volume"

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benny (b3ny) said :
#61

No, while clicked it change like this:
ubuntu
Desktop
File System
disk
disk-1
disk-2
disk-3
ubuntux
Trash

I think copy ubuntux to disk, but inside ubuntux there are folder ubuntu and also inside disk found folder ubuntu

the name of disk change auto

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Tom (tom6) said :
#62

Does the 40.5 GB one have folders such as "WINDOWS" & "Documents and Settings"? Does the 32.6 GB have those too? Can you see a grey bar at the bottom of each explorer/nautilus console showing how much free space is left on each? Please let us know how much free-space is on each.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#63

Ok, please open; disk, disk-1, disk-2 and disk-3 and let us know which have the folders i asked about and please also tell us how much free-space is on each :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#64

disk = myfile + folder ubuntu // 28,6 GB freespace
disk-1 look like linux folder // 27.0 GB freespace
disk-2 look like drive C: // 27,5 GB freespace
disk-3 lost+found // 6,2 MB freespace
ubuntux is the name of disk data and folder ubuntu // 15,7 GB freespace

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benny (b3ny) said :
#65

I found disk analyzer menu it said 118.7 GB used and 100.4 GB free

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benny (b3ny) said :
#66

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/hdc3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/hdc5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3 19457 19457 8032+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

can not read sda or sdb inside places explorer

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Tom (tom6) said :
#67

Ok is the "Documents and Settings" folder in "disk-2" small enough to copy into a new folder in "disk"? Does "disk" also have Windows type folders or does any of the other ones apart from "disk-2" have any Windows stuff?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#68

Ok, i think we are not going to have enough space to do this without doing soemtinga bit radical. Have you saved any important data inside any of the Ubuntu's you have installed or are they all too new for that?

If you don't have much data in Ubuntu then it would be really helpful to delete hdc5, hdc3 and hdc2. Then you can make a new normal linux partition to fill all that space which should hopefully give enough space to copy sdb5's "Document and Settings" onto. Does that sound like a good plan?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#69

The windows inside disk-2
disk and ubuntux is 2 in 1 disk
drive C: is disk-2, drive E: is disk and drive F: is ubuntux
ubuntu in disk-1
also ubuntu folder that install from windows inside partisi name ubuntux and partisi name disk
there are two ubuntu as 7.10 and 8.04
where is grey? before save 9.04 and unallocated

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benny (b3ny) said :
#70

Yes, thats why I go away to find search where my HDD else
the disk is two (80GB and 160GB)
80GB //Drive C: called disk-2 for ubuntu
160GB //Drive E: called disk for ubuntu and //Drive F: called unbuntux for ubuntu
real ubuntu in disk-1

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benny (b3ny) said :
#71

I still confuse to convert disk with sda or sdb, i'm not read information that partisi is sdb or sda
is there anyway to know sda or sdb in explorer place?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#72

I can move my files inside partisi ubuntux to partisi disk
But inside partisi ubuntux has folder name ubuntu
Also disk, I found folder ubuntu too

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Tom (tom6) said :
#73

Hi benny i think we ned to clear all the different Ubuntu's off your computer and start again. It's too confusing having so many. Do you have any data in Ubuntu anywhere that need protecting? If not then please boot into Windows and follow part 4 of this guide
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

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Tom (tom6) said :
#74

Hi benny i think we need to clear all the different Ubuntu's off your computer and start again. It's too confusing having so many. Do you have any data in Ubuntu anywhere that need protecting? If not then please boot into Windows and follow part 4 of this guide
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

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Tom (tom6) said :
#75

Hi

I really thought that getting 10Gb of space for Ubuntu on the 160Gb drive was going to be quite easy but it's turning out to be very difficult to do some fairly easy things. I know you are getting very confused. Maybe it's time to try a different way?

What do you want to do? I feel that we start trying to do something and then have to leave it for a bit, which is fine but when we try to start again suddenly everything gets changed around again so that we have to start again from the beginning.

Do you have an Ubuntu 9.04 Cd? If so then please get rid of the 7.10 one. The 9.04 Cd should work well as a LiveCd, please try it. With the 9.04 LiveCd please go up to the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Partition Editor

and let us know how much space is available in partitions 2 & 3 of the 80Gb hard-drive. Note that the 9.04 LiveCd already has gparted included.

Please let me know if you have a 9.04 cd or an 8.04 one
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#76

Yo! i go inside 8.04 leave live cd
I have three: 7.10, 8.04 and 9.04
How much space available inside 80GB
I have split that 40gb for linux and 40gb for windows
may be, it should be 25gb for 8.04, 20gb for 9.04 and 25gb for XP

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Tom (tom6) said :
#77

Hi, sorry i'm getting quite frustrated with this so i can only imagine how you feel. If you have an Ubuntu 8.04 or an Ubuntu 9.04 disk then we could try a straight install but i want you to use the install icon on the desktop of the LiveCd session of eiher 8.04 or 9.04 NOT 7.10! lol

Please let me know if you are ready to try this
Regards form
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#78

Ahah, if you are using a LiveCd of 8.04 right now then lets use that. In gparted does it show the 80Gb hard-drive?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#79

no... it is booting from hdd
i have kernel option select go to 7.10, 8.04 and may be 9.04 was delete
oke i will boot run with live cd 8.04, last restart, i go boot with 7.10 live cd need setup network first
hope restart with live cd 8.04 with no setup xorg first

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Tom (tom6) said :
#80

 Doesn't the network work in a LiveCd session of 8.04?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#81

Launcher! this is first time i see 9.04 desktop! haha
select try ubuntu no change bla bla bla... but I still have t set network and this resolusi not same and where my klasik theme blue dark:-)
may be the meaning is different
but... wait i hv ever one to try live cd 8.04 yesterday, i think i'm not set network again there, or i wrong
nice 9.04!
look what day you have to find style kind like this:-) great job!
uni quest yLe red while www is uniquestyLe(w3)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#82

red replace to read. what 9.04 has?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#83

from 9.04
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3 19457 19457 8032+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 5288 9541 34170255 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 9542 9729 1510110 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 9542 9729 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

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benny (b3ny) said :
#84

eh, i'm not read Partition table entries are not in disk order like previous
where it gone?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#85

oh on middle bah :-) sorry

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Tom (tom6) said :
#86

Great :))
So 9.04 does see the network? We can change themes later, after installing it. Ok with gparted click on the top right-hand corner button to change to sdb. The 80Gb drive is sdb yes? Now delete sdb5, sdb3 and sdb2. How much space does that give to unallocated?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#87

it said same unused space about 28gib but the one as sdb1/ntfs(boot) and the one as ext3 <= sdb2
what in sdb2? is that 7.10?
no problem delete sdb5 as linux swap but it is same 1.44gib sdb3 and sdb5
sdb2 used 3.93gib, used for what?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#88

sdb2 is one of the install but i don't know which number. 3.93Gb sounds like all the system files for the install of whichever number of Ubuntu. So can you delete sdb3 now? and then delete sdb2?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#89

deleted
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3 19457 19457 8032+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS

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benny (b3ny) said :
#90

what me want to do with ubuntu?
oh i look like a baby now inside linux:-)
but I do start with windows 3.1 as programmer
ya you know what vb done today
I need pad to explore how to coding inside linux environment
people call me web dev but i'm just familiar with IIS or .NET framework
dont worry I always learning to finish my job and suddenly out of dated to enjoy desk by self

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Tom (tom6) said :
#91

Ok now make 2 new partitions, both "Primary Partitions" no "Extended" ones ok? So create the new primary partitions like this

sdb2 a 5Gb Primary Partition with file-system set to "ext3"
sdb3 to fill the rest of the space, another Primary Partition with file-system set to "ext3"

Ok? Oh and please let me know how large sdb3 is now, thanks benny
Regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#92

In linux we have "Mono" which is similar to ".Net" but i think it has more features. I don't know anything about programming tho. It's a very different skill.

I have heard that programming in linux is very different because it often means working with other people or sharing ideas with each other. Also programs in linux tend to be smaller because it's easier for a program to call a library without having to embed the library (or other package) within the program you're writing. In some ways it's easier but in other ways it's trickier because you're not certain of how that library might change as it gets developed. There are a lot of guides to help, somewhere. I might try to find something for you later but it might be better to ask about that after wwe have finished this install ;)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#93

like this? but sdb2/ext3 only 4.64gb
is that enough for features
from where the number 5gb
thanks

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3 19457 19457 8032+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6 6049 6374 2618532 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 5288 5924 5116702+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 5925 9729 30563662+ 83 Linux

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benny (b3ny) said :
#94

yes that was my problem, fixing ubuntu installation to have ready to work on linux platform hopely:-)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#95

5Gb should be plenty to start with. You could make it a little larger because there's so much space available but really i think 5Gb should be plenty as long as you are reasonable about how many programs you install.

Ok, we are ready to install :)))

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benny (b3ny) said :
#96

is that easy to change now into 7mb maybe or it is not big deal about 5 to 7

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Tom (tom6) said :
#97

So double-click on the install icon in the top left of the desktop. You can keep firefox and gparted open during the install so that it's easier to keep an eye on what you are doing and be able to ask for help halfway through ;)

Ok, so choose your own language and place for the time-zone. The translations are incomplete so you will find it keeps going back into english (perhaps even halfway through a sentence sometimes) but it's nicer to use your own language where possible i think :)

When you get to the "Partitioning Section" choose the 3rd option "Manual Partitioning". When you choose that it has to re-scan the drives so give it a moment and then it should show the partitions you have set out.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#98

Yes, you can resize sdb3 down by 2Gb and increase sdb2 by 2Gb. Otherwise you could delete them both and create them again or whichever way but 5Gb is plenty. 7Gb is a lot but that will be fine too. Sometimes it good to have more space than you need for this :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#99

No root file system is defined.

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benny (b3ny) said :
#100

No root file system is defined.
Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
what correct...

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Tom (tom6) said :
#101

Inside the "Manual Partitioning" section you'll notice the colour-coding is different from gparted but it still shows the partitions dividing up the drives in the same way?

Can you see sdb2? Try to "Edit" it and set it's "Mount Point" to "/" as the / marks the start of the linux folders. The / shows the installer where to put the OS & programs for Ubuntu.

Now "Edit" sdb3 and set it's "Mount Point" to "/home" because /home is where all your data and setting are kept. Having this on a separate partition from the programs and system files helps keep the data and settings much safer. This makes your system much stronger and more robust :))

Finally "Edit" sda3, the 2,5Gb partition to make that your linux-swap. It helps to have the linux-swap on a different physical drive from the OS & programs in order to get a slight boost in performance :) The drives read/write head doesn't need to move away from the linux-swap so ram can swap temporary data and cached files faster :)))

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Tom (tom6) said :
#102

You'll need to press the back button a couple of ties to get back into the "Manual Partitioning" section to set the mount points for

sdb2 /
sdb3 /home

sda3 doesn't need a "Mount Point"

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Tom (tom6) said :
#103

ties = times
sorry about that typo

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benny (b3ny) said :
#104

No
sdb2 found no use as "/"

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benny (b3ny) said :
#105

No, I think i hv /root in sda
I see no "/" on select use as sdb2

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benny (b3ny) said :
#106

ok sorry it mount point

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benny (b3ny) said :
#107

ext2 = file system

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benny (b3ny) said :
#108

so
sdb2 use as ext2 file system mount point /
sdb3 use as ext3 journalling file system mount point /home
ok?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#109

Yes ext 3 is file-system not "Mount Point" and ext3 is better than ext2 i think it's better than ext4 but that could just be my own opinion. I haven't tried ext4 yet, it's very new.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#110

I would make sdb2 ext3 aswell as sdb3 :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#111

Yes, you got the mount points right :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#112

what for boot loader, whats up with hd0 when boot loader unchecked
what hd0

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benny (b3ny) said :
#113

no
sdb2 use as ext3 journalling file system => /
sdb3 use as ext3 journalling file system => /home

both of them ext3, is that correct?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#114

just ok
now go install
sdb2 ext3 journalling file system /
sdb3 ext3 journalling file system /home

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Tom (tom6) said :
#115

Yes that's all right. Leave the boot-loader alone and yes that's ok set to (hd0)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#116

The grub boot-loader stands for "GRand Unified Boot-loader". It's not really linux as it is designed to be better at talking more directly with the machine. That's why it starts counting at 0. When it says (hd0) it means sda. (hd1) would be sdb but it's only talking about which Master Boot Record to make point to the main part of grub.

During bootup it starts with a splash-screen about the mbord and then looks quickly at drives plugged in and then boots into the bios stage which does it's own much more advanced hardware detections. The bios then looks up the MBR of the first hard-drive which tells it where to find the boot-loader (Lilo & Grub are the 2 boot-loaders most often used by linux). Then control is passed on to the boot-loader which loads in the kernel of the OS and then passes control of the machine to the OS. Then the OS does it's own hardware detection but tends to cheat a bit by looking up what the bios found ;)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#117

Goodnight Benny :)
Reboot should work fine but if it doesn't then we can fix that later. Until then LiveCd or something should be fine to use for normal use?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#118

EVERYTHING JUST PROBLEM!!!
ERROR 2
CANNOT SELECT BOOT
RESTART WITH LIVE CD NOW RETURN BLACKSCREEN!!!
BLACK SECREEN!!!

I NEED REIINSTALL WINDOWSS!!!

I DONT LIE TO SAY IT HARD!!!
IT IS NOT EASY!!!
MANY PROBLEM

YA EASY THE WELCOME SCREEN BLACK

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benny (b3ny) said :
#119

Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast
and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent
applications installed by default, and almost any other software you
can imagine available through the network.

YA VERY EASY TO BLACK SCREEN

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Tom (tom6) said :
#120

??

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Tom (tom6) said :
#121

Is that the same with all the LiveCds?

LiveCd "TryUbuntu without changes ..."

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Tom (tom6) said :
#122

I'm sorry Benny it should be able to bootup from the hard drive now. Do you get the menu with "Try Ubuntu ..."?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#123

YA BOOTING THEN CAN NOT DO NOTHING LAST NIGHT THEN I SLEEP CAN NOT DO NOTHING, IT IS FROM ANOTHER COMPUTER, I HAVE TO LOOKING ANOTHER COMPUTER TO WRITE THIS.
YES, TRY TO SOLVE NIGHT CAN NOT DO NOTHING MY PC JUST BLACK OR ERROR WHILE BOOT
THIS MORNING I CAN FIND OTHERS PC
BORROW

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benny (b3ny) said :
#124

I'M NOT LIE!!! THE COMPUTER JUST PROBLEM

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benny (b3ny) said :
#125

I STOP THINKING EVEN TO TALK
I NEED REINSTALL EVERYTHING GUESS

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benny (b3ny) said :
#126

YA SAME DISK! I'M NOT COLLECTOR CDS

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Tom (tom6) said :
#127

Everything should still be there even if we can't get at it right now. I know you're not lying. I'm trying to see if there's some way around whatever has gone wrong. I'm really sorry

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Tom (tom6) said :
#128

1. Do the lights on your keyboard start flashing?

2. When you put the Cd in and boot from it do you get as far as the menu with the "Try Ubuntu .." option? If so please try the "Memory Test"

3. If you don't get as far as the menu with "Try Ubuntu ..." then this guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
to help reset the bios

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Tom (tom6) said :
#129

Also when you try booting up with no Cd do you get the splash-screen for the mbord? then a few lines say "Primary Master ..." and "Secondary ..."? then a few tables with columns like "IRQ" and "Interrupts"? Then a blank screen with a couple of lines at the top and bottom saying things like "Grub Stage 1 loading" then "Grub 1.5"?

How far does it get before it goes wrong?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#130

GRUB loading please wait...
ERROR 2
I can not go to windows
When live cd insert and boot return black screen
ctrl+alt+backspace no help
now need windows recovery mode to help my boot
windows still working...

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Tom (tom6) said :
#131

Grub error 2 means it's having trouble reading the partitions we set up earlier

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Tom (tom6) said :
#132

Hi, can i check that you have 3 Ubuntu cds and they are all failing to get as far as the menu? You haven't got any odd linux cds like knoppix or wolvix have you?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#133

You say you have fixed the boot into Window? Wow, that's incredible :) Nice one :))

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benny (b3ny) said :
#134

no, i dont jave any linux, i am new, never touch linux
no, i have original windows
boot with with windows
i dont want to see black
i push hard button power always
i'm worry, so many time push hard power down
it possible to have another crash like bad sector
i do ever kind like that, bad sector after hard push button power many times

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Tom (tom6) said :
#135

If Windows is working then that's fine for now? It's late here and i need some sleep because it's hard to think right when you are tired. I have found a couple of threads about "grub error 2" but i think it's worth leaving until tomorrow? See xeniter's post at the bottom of this thread
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grub-error-2-and-possibly-related-problem-352343/

But if you change any settings in bios make sure you write down what they were before you changed anything so that you can put them back if thiungs get worse ok?

Good luck and regards from
Tom

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benny (b3ny) said :
#136

oke, i'm not tired, i am wake up, and bad morning haha
i have less vocabulary when on from bed

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Tom (tom6) said :
#137

Hi

I have been having another look at this and there seems to be another hardware issue that we might need to workaround but first we have to see what's going wrong with your cd/dvd-drives!

Can you boot into Windows and see stuff that's on a cd in the drive? Can you make a new cd or save some data onto a cd? Perhaps a good test would be to make a cd of Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix

I really think we should have a few days rest from all this though to give a chance to catch up on some sleep. I know you have been staying up until 4am and stuff like that really isn't good for you. So a few days rest and then perhaps come back to it then?

Good luck as always, regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#138

hei tom:-)
sorry to be have up and down limited vocabulary:-)
yes funny, sometime smile tho

3 cd checked
patch check cd defects done NO ERROR FOUND
red cd 7.10, 8.04, 9.04 check detects no error found

I remember error number are 2 and 22

No, i'm just delete the partition look like this:

Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdc1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdc2 5288 5924 5116702+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdc3 5925 9729 30563662+ 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 6049 19456 107699760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

tom, look at this, i have ever shot screen save here before everything just reset:-) http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/Screenshot.png

today i'm not see my windows and just panic when someone ring my buzz locked
today sleep much:-)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#139

Ok, can you use gparted to look at sda and resize sda2 to fill up all the space right to the end of the drive? Note that sda2 is hollow so it's a bit tricky to right-click on it unless you right-click on the text part in the bottom half of the gparted window.

Also resize hdc2, this time take 100Mb off the beginning of hdc2.

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benny (b3ny) said :
#140

I have ever try with this live cd but locked how to unlocked, the icon locked also

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Tom (tom6) said :
#141

Right-click and choose "umount" partition

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benny (b3ny) said :
#142

right click sda2 and sda 5 possible only manage flags and information
2 unallocated as 2.5gib and 7.84mib
2 unallocated need merger
sda5 as ntfs between that unallocated (inside sda2)
2 unallocated and 1 ntfs under sda2 (inside)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#143

i hv upload button replace shot screen here click what look like lock that click shift+refresh http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/Screenshot.png i was replace with same name

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benny (b3ny) said :
#144

what shot screen you need, i can shot and send to address in minute

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Tom (tom6) said :
#145

Can you upload a screenshot of gparted?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#146

also here I shot screen and send about /dev/sda http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/creenshot.png <=gparted

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Tom (tom6) said :
#147

Benny, is this machine able to boot up into Windows?

While you are still in Ubuntu please try right-click on sda5 first and unmount that one then sda2 should be able to unmount?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#148

Hey, i like those screenshots :))) Nicely done :)
It shows that sda5 does have plenty of free-space so we don't need to do anything with these partitions now :)

Please can you copy any data from your "Documents and Settings" folder on hdc1 into a new folder in sda5? That should let us do a couple more things tomorrow. Another gparted screeenshot of hdc might be nice :)

I really have got to go out now and it's very late there so lets leave it as it is tonight. It has been good to see what's going on through those screenshots but i think we should leave any other action for a day or two?
Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#149

yes you right
gparted still running found 2 errors and shot sent http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/eenshot.png

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benny (b3ny) said :
#150

yes thank you, have a nice day

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benny (b3ny) said :
#151

now gparted
sda: http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/gpartedsda.png
hdc: http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/gpartedhdc.png
look like image, when I move sda5 to sda1 (good?)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#152

Hi

Have you made a new folder on sda5 and copied all your files from hdc1 into this new folder? Note that in hdc1 there should be a folder called "Documents and Settings" and inside there are a number of folders for 'different users' on your machine - one will be "Administrator", another will be "Network" or something, another will be "default user" and your own one should be in there too. Look in each of those folders for "Desktop", "My Documents" and copy the files from those into the new folder on sda5. It might be easier just to copy the entire "Documents and Settings" folder because there seems to be plenty of space on sda5 :)

I wouldn't move sda5 for now. There's no way we can backup the data that's on that partition at the moment so moving it is very risky, especially as sda5 seems to be the main partition containing all your most important data.

When you have backed up the data that's on hdc1 by copying it into sda5 then use gparted to move hdc1 along so that the unallocated space is moved to the front of the 80Gb drive. Note that the 'move' option is on the same option as "resize or move" but don't bother to resize this partition, just move it.

Good luck and regards again from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#153

Hi back,
I have resolved booting locked by grub using windows, now my home work to resynchronize component configuration such as dll missing, crash, etc
I don't understand how the new linux user get locked after installation done
when the system locked, you can not run your application, this will bad day when your system locked
i see ubuntu also after windows recovery
i wrote this with ubuntu 8.04
now the grub alert was lost:-)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#154

the picture disk sda look like this:
http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/804gpartedsda.png
the picture disk sdb look like this:
http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/804gpartedsdb.png

using sudo fdisk -l return
Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16ed16ed

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5287 42467796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 5478 5924 3590527+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 5925 9729 30563662+ 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00d700d7

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 6048 48580528+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 6375 19456 105081165 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 6375 19456 105081133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

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benny (b3ny) said :
#155

solved by windows xp

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benny (b3ny) said :
#156

Thank tom,
You have good conversation help me learn many thing

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benny (b3ny) said :
#157

Thank or thanks?
for correct mean terimakasih:-)
Apologies for the inconvenience

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Tom (tom6) said :
#158

Thanks :) We are getting there :)
It's good to see you learning so much so quickly :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#159

Have you been able to boot into Windows and see all three 'drives'? If not i think it would be good to try that now. Then try running a "Check disk" by opening "My Computer" and then right-click on a 'drive', i think then down to properties or just when you see a pie-chart of the 'disk' or perhaps the 2nd tab in that pop-up box? Anyway, please try running a "Scan disk" or "Check disk". SOrry it's been ages since i was in Windows and can't remember what it's called or where it is :(

Good luck with this!
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#160

ya, sure, i will restart boot to windows, find chkdsk to ensure my disk not bad, and just go to administrative tool inside control panel to click storage/disk management then freely to format, merger or else with safe.
Yes, i still try to make space enough to install real ubuntu (not inside ntfs:-)
i'll be back

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benny (b3ny) said :
#161

Yes, this picture from xp disk management:
http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/xpdiskmanagement.png

I need to convert my code in asp to php that why i go set LAMP as soon as possible to finish something before monday :-)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#162

Ok, so you did "Scan disk" for each and they all look healthy?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#163

Ok, sorry can you boot back into a LiveCd and hopefully this time they wont all have warning triangle signs beside them!

Then please move the 1st partition on the 80Gb drive along to the right. It should just leave a tiny 'buffer' of 8Mb (very very tiny) unallocated between itself and the little 3.42 Gib partition. Can you move the partition?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#164

yes i'm try, so far, i see the disk fine
thanks

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Tom (tom6) said :
#165

Hi

Is the unallocated space at the far left-hand side of the 80Gb hard-drive now? If so then please create a new 100Mb (very very tiny) Primary ext3 partition at the very start, the very far left of the hard-drive. Please show me a screenshot of the 80Gb hard-drive.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#166

Ya
screenshot gparted hdd 80gb: http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/gparted80gb.png
screenshot all of hdd: http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/xpdiskmanagement.png

I try to understand sda sdb sometime it change to hdc and back to sdb
I see on XP 100% free 29,15 is that possible?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#167

Yes it depends on which version of Ubuntu you use - hdc is the old style i think. There is a difference between sata and ide drives but newer releases of linux are beginning to deal with that out-of-sight so ide-drives are now being refered to by the same addressing as sata drives.

Those partitions showing big empty space are really worrying me. When you were in Windows you could definitely see all your files couldn't you? The "scan disk" or "check disk" all worked out fine too?

Ok, so now move sda1 to the right so that it squeezes out all that unallocated space there. Hopefully that should leave you with unallocated space at the beginning of the drive

Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#168

Yes, I have no problem in windows
I go backup make space more
Don't worry the disk 160 GB on drive E and F for windows save to delete
I don't know what ubuntu files, but I dont want to lose this (ubuntu) so I can not reformat now
Now ubuntu 8.04 just fine

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benny (b3ny) said :
#169

no, sda1 can not change or resize with warning icon

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benny (b3ny) said :
#170

Hi Tom,
You ever told me about launchpad versi my language (bahasa indonesia)
But found nothing here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-id
I mean launchpad, not google or another forum
So, launchpad is english right - Tks.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#171

Ok can you type in

fsck -h

to see how to use the linux check-disk command. It looks to me as though you need to type in

fsck /dev/sda1 -p

or perhaps it needs to be sudoed? So

sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p

Does this look right to you too?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#172

There are a couple of Indonesian Answer Contacts now :)
So you can ask questions in Indonesian :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#173

No
:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
[sudo] password for benny:
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

:~$ fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda1
You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root

fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck.ext3: invalid option -- h
Usage: fsck.ext3 [-panyrcdfvstDFSV] [-b superblock] [-B blocksize]
  [-I inode_buffer_blocks] [-P process_inode_size]
  [-l|-L bad_blocks_file] [-C fd] [-j external_journal]
  [-E extended-options] device

Emergency help:
 -p Automatic repair (no questions)
 -n Make no changes to the filesystem
 -y Assume "yes" to all questions
 -c Check for bad blocks and add them to the badblock list
 -f Force checking even if filesystem is marked clean
 -v Be verbose
 -b superblock Use alternative superblock
 -B blocksize Force blocksize when looking for superblock
 -j external_journal Set location of the external journal
 -l bad_blocks_file Add to badblocks list
 -L bad_blocks_file Set badblocks list

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Tom (tom6) said :
#174

Ok so try typing in

sudo ntfs apt-get install ntfsprogs

That should install about 3 things, perhaps a couple more?

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benny (b3ny) said :
#175

No

:~$ sudo ntfs apt-get install ntfsprogs
[sudo] password for benny:
sudo: ntfs: command not found

:~$ sudo ntfs apt-get install ntfsprogs
sudo: ntfs: command not found

:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libntfs10
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libntfs10 ntfsprogs
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
Need to get 391kB of archives.
After this operation, 950kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main libntfs10 2.0.0-1ubuntu2 [122kB]
Get:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main ntfsprogs 2.0.0-1ubuntu2 [269kB]
Fetched 391kB in 34s (11.4kB/s)
Selecting previously deselected package libntfs10.
(Reading database ... 104172 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libntfs10 (from .../libntfs10_2.0.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package ntfsprogs.
Unpacking ntfsprogs (from .../ntfsprogs_2.0.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libntfs10 (2.0.0-1ubuntu2) ...

Setting up ntfsprogs (2.0.0-1ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc6 ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place

:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

:~$ fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda1
You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root

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benny (b3ny) said :
#176

fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

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Tom (tom6) said :
#177

Sorry that should have been

sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs

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benny (b3ny) said :
#178

no
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libntfs10
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libntfs10 ntfsprogs
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
Need to get 391kB of archives.
After this operation, 950kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main libntfs10 2.0.0-1ubuntu2 [122kB]
Get:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main ntfsprogs 2.0.0-1ubuntu2 [269kB]
Fetched 391kB in 34s (11.4kB/s)
Selecting previously deselected package libntfs10.
(Reading database ... 104172 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libntfs10 (from .../libntfs10_2.0.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package ntfsprogs.
Unpacking ntfsprogs (from .../ntfsprogs_2.0.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libntfs10 (2.0.0-1ubuntu2) ...

Setting up ntfsprogs (2.0.0-1ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for libc6 ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place

:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[sudo] password for benny:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ntfsprogs is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.

:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

Do I have to restart first?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#179

Don't reboot - that would lose the ntfsprogs

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Tom (tom6) said :
#180

Perhaps try

sudo apt-get install dosfstools

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benny (b3ny) said :
#181

No:-)
benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install dosfstools
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
dosfstools is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

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Tom (tom6) said :
#182

Ok, i have posted a question about how to do this. Hopefully one day we will start doing something and find that it's as easy as it normally is for people. so far not one thing has gone as smoothly as normal except perhaps deleting partitions, that went very smoothly.

I have looked around and found this
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+question/44587
marcobra giving excellent advice as usual. I think it might be worth trying

ntfsfix -h

to see if we can work out how to use this

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Tom (tom6) said :
#183

Ok, try

sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g

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benny (b3ny) said :
#184

No, but error 2 said also yesterday when the boot fail

:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[sudo] password for benny:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
ntfs-3g is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
benny@benny-desktop:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1 -p
fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1

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Tom (tom6) said :
#185

This is really frustrating. Can you boot into Windows and do a defragment?

Start button - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools - Windows Defragmenter

I think it's around there somewhere. It might take a while to run and needs to be done on all 3(?) of the Windows 'drives'

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Tom (tom6) said :
#186

Try not to have the machine running anything else while it's defragmenting. if you have a differnt defragmenter such as perfect disk then that might be better but the Windows one should be fine.

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benny (b3ny) said :
#187
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benny (b3ny) said :
#188
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benny (b3ny) said :
#189

Volume ubuntux (E:)
    Volume size = 46,33 GB
    Cluster size = 4 KB
    Used space = 30,67 GB
    Free space = 15,66 GB
    Percent free space = 33 %

Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 44 %
    File fragmentation = 88 %
    Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
    Total files = 885
    Average file size = 40 MB
    Total fragmented files = 1
    Total excess fragments = 1
    Average fragments per file = 1,00

Pagefile fragmentation
    Pagefile size = 0 bytes
    Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
    Total folders = 74
    Fragmented folders = 1
    Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
    Total MFT size = 1 MB
    MFT record count = 976
    Percent MFT in use = 64 %
    Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
2 27,01 GB \ubuntu\disks\root.disk

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benny (b3ny) said :
#190

The problem come from this partisi like this picture: http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/E_fragment.png

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Tom (tom6) said :
#191

Great, that's ok

Yes drive E: could do with another couple of goes with the defragmenter. It's great to see the pagefile is completely defragmented :)) That's the one that can really slow Windows down badly and it can be very difficult to defrag so it's great to see it very tidy like that :))

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Tom (tom6) said :
#192

From
http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/E_fragment.png
just click on the "Defragment" button at the bottom of that window :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#193

No
Windows can not finish the "defragment"

Volume ubuntux (E:)
    Volume size = 46,33 GB
    Cluster size = 4 KB
    Used space = 30,67 GB
    Free space = 15,66 GB
    Percent free space = 33 %

Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation = 44 %
    File fragmentation = 88 %
    Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
    Total files = 885
    Average file size = 40 MB
    Total fragmented files = 1
    Total excess fragments = 1
    Average fragments per file = 1,00

Pagefile fragmentation
    Pagefile size = 0 bytes
    Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
    Total folders = 74
    Fragmented folders = 1
    Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
    Total MFT size = 1 MB
    MFT record count = 976
    Percent MFT in use = 64 %
    Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
2 27,01 GB \ubuntu\disks\root.disk

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Tom (tom6) said :
#194

Benny can you make a cd of Wolvix Hunter? or do you already have one? Ubuntu's gparted doesn't always seem to be behaving but the one in Wolvix Hunter is good
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix
You would probably have to download and make this in Windows.

Is it ok to make this? We can try with Ubuntu if it's not ok.
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#195

well, i'm not ready yet with wolfix hunter
i will try to find it
thanks tom

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Tom (tom6) said :
#196

You have a spare blank cd or 2? and downloading isn't a problem?

Ok, it looks like the best place is
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrents&category=377
The Hunter version is the last of the 4 options. Cub 1.1.0 is also good but i prefer Hunter because it's small yet has a lot of useful stuff in it :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#197

yes, i go twice download but seem it not iso, look download box said 2 for wolfix from linuxtracker
http://citrasehat.com/foto/upimg/wolvixdownload.png
thanks

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Tom (tom6) said :
#198

Ahh yes, it's a torrent so when you have downloaded that part of it then go up to the top taskbar and click on

Applications - Internet - Transmission BitTorrent Client

then that should start downloading the iso

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Tom (tom6) said :
#199

Once you have opened "Transmission BitTorrent Client" drag and drop the ".torrent" file onto "Transmission BitTorrent Client", sorry, that should start downloading now?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#200

Ahah, i have just understood why it wont let you defragment the E: 'drive'. Don't worry about this. When we have got Ubuntu working properly then we can probably fix this quite easily and until then it's not a huge problem. The main thing was trying to make sure Windows is completely happy with all it's own partitions. :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#201

i see live game of arsenal and madrid here now :-) http://www26.brinkster.com/b3nny/tv1.html

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benny (b3ny) said :
#202

Is there anything really free in this world:-)
Thanks Tom, I feel you really helpfully support me as new user around linux

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Tom (tom6) said :
#203

Hi, i guess that download is really slow. Sorry about that. When it's done we can use a LiveCd session of that although you need to use it's Wolvix Control Panel to get it to see the internet. The WCP is on the icon of a crossed screwdriver and spanner ;) Their firefox icon is blue and grey rather than gold and blue. Err and to login to their LiveCd use

username root
password toor

Ok, good luck with that
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#204

No
wolvix-hunter-1.1.0.iso
162.9 MiB of 482.7 MiB (33.75%)
Download from 0 of 0 connected peers - idle

It seem stop with transmission, hmm torrent, I never see download model kind like this
it called torrent?
I think the download stop at 162.9 MiB, because yesterday it said same status with today
is there option to refresh resume or something by torrent?

waolvix-hunter is o/s? i like the name:-)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#205

If you have the Transmission console open and can see Wolvix in there then right-click on it and see what options it gives.

Usually as you download something through a torrent then you use some of your normally unused upload to serve out the bits you have already downloaded to other people. So even if you only have a small part of the file you might find you are uploading that to other people. It does still need one central server to host it and keep track of what's going on but that server doesn't have to be particularly powerful because a lot of the work can then be done by the machines that are downloading it. Usually it's considered polite to upload it twice if you download it once but often that isn't really something to worry about. This all works really well when there are several people uploading it but Wolvix is not so famous and there's only a couple of us uploading it so it's desperately slow, sorry about that :(

To download it faster i have at last managed to find
ftp://ftp.wolvix.org/wolvix/wolvix-1.1.0/iso/
and this link will start downloading it as soon as you click on it!
ftp://ftp.wolvix.org/wolvix/wolvix-1.1.0/iso/wolvix-hunter-1.1.0.iso

Good luck with this!
Regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#206

Hi :)

Hey can we keep going with this until we fix it? Have you managed to get Wolvix? If not there is another one that might be good but i can't quite remember details about it.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#207

yes, no problem tom, i'm jst read-;) no, download not yet complete. oh i.e not give spell correction, mozilla has. thanks tom. nice!

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benny (b3ny) said :
#208

i will tell you when wolfix complete download next ya-:)
hmm wolfix, sound like ouuuu

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Tom (tom6) said :
#209

Ok, lets try a much smaller distro then. Wolvix Hunter is 450Mb but sliTaz is only 30Mb! Can you get this one instead?

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz
http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/#stable

Sorry about that! Good luck with this one now
Regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#210

hey done! i mean i found now 482.7 MB (506179584 bytes) wolvix-hunter-1.1.0.iso save ready inside desktop hmm where is my blank cd :-) thankz

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Tom (tom6) said :
#211

Great. Don't delete the file until we have made sure the Cd works properly. It's probably worth keeping anyway ;)
Nicely done :)

Ok, here's a guide on making a great Cd
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
Obviously it's a little bit different making one of wolvix rather than Ubuntu but it is much the same really :)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#212

Hi Benny :)

Have you made a Cd of Wolvix or sliTaz yet?
Please let me know how you are.

Thanks and regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#213

Ya, halo
was focus not to recovery but to styleshit:-)
ah i'm not yet burn to cd, i need more blank
but the file still stored on desktop ubuntu
and this hdd still same with latest info picture
i mean, i let the case and focus like daily ussually

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Tom (tom6) said :
#214

Ahh i see. It would be good if you could make a cd soon but remember the cheapest "write once" cds that can only normally be bought in packs of 10 or more tend to be best for this type of thing. I have been in places were packaging is opened up and these sorts of things are sold singly but they are clearly meant to be sold in packs of ten - these are good for this.

Good luck as always from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#215

is that latest posted success to launchpad?

because, i read error alert from launchpad seem busy server

ok tom, thanks

now i am in xp, my friend said... why you not use xp pro, torrent download available also for xp pro

i knew where iis right. nut XAMPP is easy also:-)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#216

often read kind of the alert seem server bussy
Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
Trying again in a couple of minutes might work.
(Error ID: OOPS-1315F2243)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#217

what can wolfix done.
i wrote ubuntu 8.04 in dvd-rw and 9.04 in dvd-rw also
may be i can move in one dvd for 8.04 and 9.04, then i can delete the one dvd for wolvix
dvd bigger space, should be both of that ubuntu version may write in one cd
is that possible? 2 version of ubuntu inside 1 dvd. it should be write 3 version in one dvd
i mean 3 in 1 ubuntu dvd:-)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#218

oh that the answer, if i reply your question from mail then the [...] enabled

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Tom (tom6) said :
#219

Yes, i get that error message "launchpad seem busy" sometimes too. Don't worry. If Wolvix isn't completely download then slitaz is great
http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/#stable

No, it's better to have 1 cd for an iso file, whether that's Wolvix, Ubuntu or sliTaz. Dvds are good for storing information but they aren't good for making boot disks.

Either way, good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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benny (b3ny) said :
#220

Yes,

Windows Vista comes on DVD

so does Windows 7

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> Yes, i get that error message "launchpad seem busy" sometimes too. Don't worry. If Wolvix isn't completely download then slitaz is great
> http://www.slitaz.org/en/get/#stable
>
> No, it's better to have 1 cd for an iso file, whether that's Wolvix,
> Ubuntu or sliTaz. Dvds are good for storing information but they aren't
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Tom (tom6) said :
#221

Maybe, but they are made in a factory rather than made by you & me at home ;)