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Asked by John May

boss@centre:~$ modprobe saa716x
modprobe: FATAL: Module saa716x not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-45-generic
boss@centre:~$

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) said :
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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#2

Would any one of you "Ask Ubuntus" care to try his hand at this.

Please talk to me.

/home/boss/media_build/v4l/../linux/include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:2:2:
error: #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly,
include <linux/compiler.h> instead."
  #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly, include
<linux/compiler.h> instead."
   ^~~~~
scripts/Makefile.build:339: recipe for target
'/home/boss/media_build/v4l/cec-edid.o' failed

On 2019-02-18 4:13 a.m., Launchpad Janitor wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Expired
>
> Launchpad Janitor expired the question:
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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#3

Maybe you need a patch like this one
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10103113/

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#4

Reply to Manfred Hampl. 2/21/19  14:19 Hrs.

        So you have a fix. Good, this problem has been around for a long
time.

FOLLOW UP.

Please execute.

        !. Go to.
https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation

        2.           Download Open Source Driver.

(note. ljalves in first line this is LUIS  ALVES. He appears to be the
writer of TBS drivers. He has several pages on Git Hub. I have tried to
contact him a couple of time but he has declined to answer. But then I
don't have launchpad in my Email. )

      . 3.           Install Open Source Driver.

        4.           Check  and confirm errors  are still present   YES
or NO?

       5.            Install your patch.

       6.           Re-compile

       7.           Re-check.    Problem fixed YES or NO

On 2019-02-18 4:32 p.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> Maybe you need a patch like this one
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10103113/
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#5

Sorry, but I do not understand your text.

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#6

REPLY to Manfred Hampl. 2/23/19 09:23 Hrs.

      My apologies. I remember you drawing my attention to the fact that
English was not your Mother Tongue. I wouldn't have known it, though you
have given a few instances  of difficulty in reading it. I have gone
over what I wrote. Maybe you had difficulty with the word/execute/.
Please   substitute/Ausfurhen/  (no umlauts on US keyboards.)

      Any furthur difficulties please indicate by line number and problem.

On 2019-02-22 5:13 p.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Manfred Hampl posted a new comment:
> Sorry, but I do not understand your text.
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#7

Sorry, I still don't understand what your question is.

Further remark to your comment #2

/home/boss/media_build/v4l/../linux/include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:2:2:
 error: #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly,
 include <linux/compiler.h> instead."
   #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly, include
 <linux/compiler.h> instead."
    ^~~~~
 scripts/Makefile.build:339: recipe for target
 '/home/boss/media_build/v4l/cec-edid.o' failed

This message is shown, if you try compiling a certain source file that has been designed for Linux kernel version 4.12 on a system with Linux kernel version 4.14 (or higher).

The link that I gave https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10103113/ contains the information about the changes that are necessary to allow compiling that piece of program on Linux kernel 4.14 (and higher).

It may be possible that there are also other parts of the source that need to be patched to compile on Linux kernel 4.15 (which I guess is your current kernel version).

I suggest that you use a different source package that is designed to work with kernel versions up to 4.18:
https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#8

STATEMENT BY MANFRED HAMPL 2019 02 22,

            "sorry I do not understand your text"

  QUESTION.

            Which of the lines, numbered 1-7, do you not understand?

On 2019-02-23 10:13 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> Sorry, I still don't understand what your question is.
>
> Further remark to your comment #2
>
> /home/boss/media_build/v4l/../linux/include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:2:2:
> error: #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly,
> include <linux/compiler.h> instead."
> #error "Please don't include <linux/compiler-gcc.h> directly, include
> <linux/compiler.h> instead."
> ^~~~~
> scripts/Makefile.build:339: recipe for target
> '/home/boss/media_build/v4l/cec-edid.o' failed
>
> This message is shown, if you try compiling a certain source file that
> has been designed for Linux kernel version 4.12 on a system with Linux
> kernel version 4.14 (or higher).
>
> The link that I gavehttps://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10103113/
> contains the information about the changes that are necessary to allow
> compiling that piece of program on Linux kernel 4.14 (and higher).
>
> It may be possible that there are also other parts of the source that
> need to be patched to compile on Linux kernel 4.15 (which I guess is
> your current kernel version).
>
> I suggest that you use a different source package that is designed to work with kernel versions up to 4.18:
> https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#9

"Which of the lines, numbered 1-7, do you not understand?"

My problems with your text start at the top in the sentences without numbers.
Are these questions, or statements, or a report what you have done, or something else?

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#10

Reply to Manfred Hampl  2/24/19 19:15 Hrs.

Manfred Hampl requires Clarification.

        " My problems with your text start at the top in the sentences without numbers.
         Are these questions, or statements, or a report what you have done, or something else?"

SENTENCE BEFORE NUMBERS NEEDING CLARIFICATION.

         "  So you have a fix. Good, this problem has been around for a long time."

Please read again. On second thoughts does this really need any
explanation?

IF not please carry on to the Numbers. Bitte ausfuhren.

On 2019-02-24 8:47 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Manfred Hampl posted a new comment:
> "Which of the lines, numbered 1-7, do you not understand?"
>
> My problems with your text start at the top in the sentences without numbers.
> Are these questions, or statements, or a report what you have done, or something else?
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#11

I still have problems in interpreting your writing.
Please re-formulate in a form that each sentence contains subject and predicate, and in case that it is a question, it ends with a question mark.

And for the matter in question:
I can only repeat what I have written at the end of comment #7:

I suggest that you use a different source package that is designed to work with kernel versions up to 4.18:
https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#12

Reply to Manfred Manfred Hampl 2/25/19. 23:49 Hrs.

      WOW, subject and Prädikat, How come one so well versed in English
grammar has so much difficulty in interpreting it?

Please re- read your initial Email.

               Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
               Maybe you need a patch like this one
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1010311

Please read my reply again.

         Reply to Manfred Hampl. 2/21/19  14:19 Hrs.

         So you have a fix. Good, this problem has been around for a long time.

         Bitte ausführen

         !. Go to.
https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation

         2.           Download Open Source Driver.

      (ACHTUNG. ljalves in first line.This is*LUIS ALVEZ*. He appears to be the
      writer of TBS drivers. He has several pages on Git Hub. I have tried to
      contact him a couple of time but he has declined to answer. But then I
      don't have launchpad in my Email. )

       . 3.           Install Open Source Driver.

         4.           Check  and confirm errors  are still present   YES or NO?

        5.            Install your patch.

        6.           Re-compile

        7.           Re-check.    Problem fixed YES or NO?:

RESOLUTION.
//Please remove line. "Your question#xxxxx on Ubuntu changed"
As far as I am concerned it has no validity whatsoever and you seem to be beginning to believe
it yourself.
            Read my answer in relation to your initial Email. I have made a couple of minor
changes. If you still have difficulty in interpretation please indicate any text you can not understand,and return it, and I will re-compose.

On 2019-02-25 2:38 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed: please edit pleas edit
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> I still have problems in interpreting your writing.
> Please re-formulate in a form that each sentence contains subject and predicate, and in case that it is a question, it ends with a question mark.
>
> And for the matter in question:
> I can only repeat what I have written at the end of comment #7:
>
> I suggest that you use a different source package that is designed to work with kernel versions up to 4.18:
> https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#13

The only response that I am willing to give now is:

https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation does not work on your kernel version.

Try https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki instead.

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#14

REPLY to Manfred Hampl. 2/27/19.

"     Thank you, After twice telling me, "you are unable to interpret my
text," feeling the need to exhibit your knowledge of English grammar,
considering me uncooperative and misunderstanding, you are suddenly able
to come up with :-

                     Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
                     The only response that I am willing to give now is:

https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation does not
                           work on your kernel version.

   This is very true, but only a repetition of what we already know. You will remember during our first discourse.you had become somewhat confused and said you would assist me in loading drivers, I told why neither the open nor closed drivers would work.

  "I am willing" not a good choice of words. Of course English is not your Mother Tongue and English is a difficult language to learn if you do not spend your early years speaking it.
      A far better choice would be the first pers. singular of can (können.)/eng. V/. to be able. Many of natural
English speakers have aq problem with this verb in the/interrogative/, they are unsure as to whether it should be
can I? or may I?.

     You have used the possessive pronoun "your" Do you really think it might be peculiar to "my" kernel? Perhaps the North American Kernel may be different from the German Kernel Maybe you've discovered something that everyone else has overlooked Fortunately It can be easily verified.

*               DOES IT WORK ON YOURS? *

  At 16:55 Hrs. 2/52Feb./19 The kernel on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS was:-

boss@centre:~$ uname -r
4.15.0-45-generic

https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation

scripts/Makefile.build:339: recipe for target
'/home/boss/media_build/v4l/cec-edid.o' failed
make[3]: *** [/home/boss/media_build/v4l/cec-edid.o] Error 1
Makefile:1551: recipe for target '_module_/home/boss/media_build/v4l' failed
make[2]: *** [_module_/home/boss/media_build/v4l] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-45-generic'
Makefile:51: recipe for target 'default' failed
make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/boss/media_build/v4l'
Makefile:26: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
boss@centre:~/media_build$

Above is output of "make" file. NOTE. on penultimate (vorletzte) line
ERROR 2, scroll up for prior errors

PLEASE DOWNLOAD AND BUILD OPEN SOURCE READER FROM SITE ABOVE.

PLEASE USE COPY AND PASTE TO ENSURE ACCURACY. (You may remember you felt
you had to mention copy and paste during our first discourse.

Please post to me copy of kernel version and last few lines of "make'
file for conformation.

FINALLY.

      Please read all of the  above. It is not time sensitive material
so take all the time you need.

If there is anything you can not interpret, please indicate.

      If you feel you are unable to handle this please let me know and I
will re-post it on Launchpad and see if anyone else seems able to try.

                                               END.

On 2019-02-26 2:37 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:*IT HAS NOT CHANGED NOR WILL IT CHANGE DURING THE LIFE OF THIS*
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296 *DISCOURSE.*
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> The only response that I am willing to give now is:
>
> https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation does not
> work on your kernel version.
>
> Tryhttps://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki instead.
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#15

I am sorry for the inaccurate wording, I try to reformulate:

The software and instructions on https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation are incompatible with the version of the kernel files that are installed on the computer where you try compiling that source.

This is not a problem of Ubuntu, but a weakness in the files from that source.
There are indications that the last version where this source would compile is the 4.9 series of the kernel packages. Your system has a kernel from the 4.15 series installed.

The software on https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki however, has additional code that most probably allows compiling on the kernel version installed on your system, if you follow the instructions given on this other source.

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#16

   Reply to Manfred Hampl 07:34Hrs

         HAVE YOU TRIED TO BUILD THE OPEN SOURCE DRIVER ON YOUR SYSTEM?

                                     YES or NO?

On 2019-02-28 2:47 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu

> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> I am sorry for the inaccurate wording, I try to reformulate:
>
> The software and instructions on
> https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation are
> incompatible with the version of the kernel files that are installed on
> the computer where you try compiling that source.
>
> This is not a problem of Ubuntu, but a weakness in the files from that source.
> There are indications that the last version where this source would compile is the 4.9 series of the kernel packages. Your system has a kernel from the 4.15 series installed.
>
> The software on https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki however, has
> additional code that most probably allows compiling on the kernel
> version installed on your system, if you follow the instructions given
> on this other source.
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#17

Which "open source driver" are you talking about -
the software from https://github.com/ljalves or the software from https://github.com/tbsdtv ?

The package from https://github.com/ljalves (with instructions from https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation ) does not compile on a system with kernel 4.15.

The package from https://github.com/tbsdtv (with instructions from https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki ) can be compiled on Ubuntu with kernel 4.15.0-*

So the answer is NO and YES.

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John May (maihaus-bmts) said :
#18

   Reply To Manfred Hampl.

We are done. You are one of the most stupid men I have ever had dealings
with.

On 2019-02-28 8:12 a.m., Manfred Hampl wrote:
> Your question #678296 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/678296
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
> Which "open source driver" are you talking about -
> the software from https://github.com/ljalves or the software from https://github.com/tbsdtv ?
>
> The package from https://github.com/ljalves (with instructions from
> https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS_driver_installation ) does
> not compile on a system with kernel 4.15.
>
> The package from https://github.com/tbsdtv (with instructions from
> https://github.com/tbsdtv/linux_media/wiki ) can be compiled on Ubuntu
> with kernel 4.15.0-*
>
> So the answer is NO and YES.
>

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#19

May I politely ask for the reason for your insult?

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) said :
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