How can I keep Windows and Xubuntu at the same time?

Asked by thehandicapspot

I want to keep both operating systems on my hard drive. First I tried to partition with auto resize and an error box there is not enough space. Second I tried to manually partition and am having trouble understanding my options. I have an emachines with 60G hard drive and 256 Ram. Live cd Dapper Drake version works fine but want to run from hard drive to experience full specs of unbuntu. Thank you.

John Franco

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Tony Mugan (tmugan) said :
#1

In WIndows you may need to defrag first so that the resize will work.
There may be bits of files all over the drive.

Right-click on "My Computer" and choose Manage.
Somewhere in there there will be an option to defragment the disk, do that a few times to get it cleaned up properly.

The go back to try your resize option when installing Xubuntu.

I strongly recommend getting a newer version of (X)(K)Ubuntu though as Dapper is quite old now.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

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thehandicapspot (johnjfranco) said :
#2

I am in the middle of defragging my pc. I will download a newer release of xubuntu. I am getting xubuntu because it requires less memory. I have an older pc with not much ram. However, I will be making some changes to get better versions in the future. More ram and an internal hard drive etc, etc. I will be in touch for more info when I get the chance. Thanks for your response.

John J. Franco

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Greer, Sc 29651

864-283-0066

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> Your question #38254 on Ubuntu changed:
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> Tony Mugan proposed the following answer:
> In WIndows you may need to defrag first so that the resize will work.
> There may be bits of files all over the drive.
>
> Right-click on "My Computer" and choose Manage.
> Somewhere in there there will be an option to defragment the disk, do that a few times to get it cleaned up properly.
>
> The go back to try your resize option when installing Xubuntu.
>
> I strongly recommend getting a newer version of (X)(K)Ubuntu though as
> Dapper is quite old now.
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
>
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Thinboy00 (thinboy00) said :
#3

Some notes about manual repartitioning:
1. As said before, any windows partitions /must/ be defragged immediately before you try to resize them, and specifically to shrink them
1.1 This rarely applies to *NIX (including Linux)
2. Linux uses ext3 filesystems and modern Windows OS's use NTFS. Gparted (the partition editor) supports both
3. For dual booting involving Windows to work, it is advisable and (AFAIK) neccesary to zero the first 512 bytes of the device. When repartitioning, It is probably best practice to leave that space unallocated so you don't partially overwrite a partition (I don't know if leaving this space when partitioning is actually needed, but as it's half a KiB, it makes sense to.)
4. Linux can have three partitions or two, or one, depending on how you want to partition the system. If you use three, the two larger ones will be mounted at /home and /usr while the remaining (usually quite small) partition is mounted at /
4.1 You should familiarize yourself with /etc/fstab and be prepared to edit it by hand prior to attempting to reboot from your hard drive
4.2 either or both of /home and /usr can be in the main partition without causing any problems. This partitioning strategy is much easier to implement but can cause headaches when trying to repair the system. Using the three partition system gives you more options in such a scenario
4.3 /home contains all user data (any data you want to store) and user specific app data. /usr contains shared app data and nonessential (i.e. you can boot the system and have a functional bash shell without them) binaries. If /home is lost, you will probably lose anything you saved to your HDD, unless you chose to save it elsewhere (A Weird Thing). If /usr is lost, you lose all programs you may have installed and a number of programs that came with Ubuntu.
5. Windows has one partition.
6. Dual booting is complicated and these instructions alone are not enough to set it up. There are probably errors in these instructions. Try reading the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot as well as these, and trust that page over these.

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thehandicapspot (johnjfranco) said :
#4

Well I am currently using xubuntu hardy heron. It is working great. How do I download and use Frostwire. I have gone to the website and it seems I can get to download box and when I try to open file it asks for a program to open with. I click and click and click. As for dual boot, I think I erased Windows as for that. As long as my wife can check her emails it will be fine. I have back ups and reboot disks. Well I am on to trying to download frostwire and having some difficulty starting the program. An suggestions?

John J. Franco

109 Windy Oak Way

Greer, Sc 29651

864-283-0066

> To: <email address hidden>
> From: <email address hidden>
> Subject: RE: [Question #38254]: How can I keep Windows and Xubuntu at the same time?
> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:32:04 +0000
>
> Your question #38254 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/38254
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Thinboy00 proposed the following answer:
> Some notes about manual repartitioning:
> 1. As said before, any windows partitions /must/ be defragged immediately before you try to resize them, and specifically to shrink them
> 1.1 This rarely applies to *NIX (including Linux)
> 2. Linux uses ext3 filesystems and modern Windows OS's use NTFS. Gparted (the partition editor) supports both
> 3. For dual booting involving Windows to work, it is advisable and (AFAIK) neccesary to zero the first 512 bytes of the device. When repartitioning, It is probably best practice to leave that space unallocated so you don't partially overwrite a partition (I don't know if leaving this space when partitioning is actually needed, but as it's half a KiB, it makes sense to.)
> 4. Linux can have three partitions or two, or one, depending on how you want to partition the system. If you use three, the two larger ones will be mounted at /home and /usr while the remaining (usually quite small) partition is mounted at /
> 4.1 You should familiarize yourself with /etc/fstab and be prepared to edit it by hand prior to attempting to reboot from your hard drive
> 4.2 either or both of /home and /usr can be in the main partition without causing any problems. This partitioning strategy is much easier to implement but can cause headaches when trying to repair the system. Using the three partition system gives you more options in such a scenario
> 4.3 /home contains all user data (any data you want to store) and user specific app data. /usr contains shared app data and nonessential (i.e. you can boot the system and have a functional bash shell without them) binaries. If /home is lost, you will probably lose anything you saved to your HDD, unless you chose to save it elsewhere (A Weird Thing). If /usr is lost, you lose all programs you may have installed and a number of programs that came with Ubuntu.
> 5. Windows has one partition.
> 6. Dual booting is complicated and these instructions alone are not enough to set it up. There are probably errors in these instructions. Try reading the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot as well as these, and trust that page over these.
>
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Steven Rose (steveydoteu) said :
#5

Use the package manager that should be located in System > Administration, I believe. I forget what it is called in XFCE.

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