why was webmin dropped?

Asked by Brian J. Murrell on 2006-12-20

This doesn't seem so much a support request so I asked this as a bug in https://launchpad.net/bugs/76624 but it was rejected and I was redirected here, but the question is:

It seems that webmin was dropped for dapper and beyond. Why?
Is there a better tool in Ubuntu than webmin for managing the array of software that webmin manages?

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Best Alan Pope ㋛ (popey) said : #1

The following give the reasons that webmin was removed from Debian. As Ubuntu is a Debian derived package, it's not surprising Ubuntu doesn't have it either.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/01/msg00124.html
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=271505

On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 20:13 +0000, Alan Pope wrote:
> Your support request #2873 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2873
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Alan Pope proposed the following answer:
> The following give the reasons that webmin was removed from Debian. As
> Ubuntu is a Debian derived package, it's not surprising Ubuntu doesn't
> have it either.
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2006/01/msg00124.html
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343897
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=271505

I see.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate the
effort.

b.

--
My other computer is your Microsoft Windows server.

Brian J. Murrell

Alan Pope ㋛ (popey) said : #3

No problem. Could you close this message please?

User confirmed that the request is solved.

Neal McBurnett (nealmcb) said : #5

In addition, webmin is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files (debian policy and deb-conf) and and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system, especially for upgrades.

The direction for the future (starting with 8.04, Hardy) is Ebox:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec

Is this answer still valid?
According to https://www.virtualmin.com/node/21110 it seems not...
Any thoughts/experiences about this?

shahar (shahar7000) said : #7

I think ebox/zentyal doesn't cover virtualmin's functionality, which is:
managing a whole "account" as a single unit, whose components are:
 - email account
 - apache website (virtual server config)
 - mysql-db
 - ssh access
 - single-"account" backup / restore.