Ubuntu stops at "starting up" message after Grub Loader

Hey,

First off, be nice to yourself and don't say you suck at computers :)

Next, I would like to try that "acpi=off" thing you speak of. Here's how:
When you get that "grub screen", with the normal or recovery mode options, highlight the normal option, and hit the letter e (for Edit)
Next, highlight the line that starts with "Kernel ...", and hit e again.

You now should see something like
blah blah quiet splash --

Remove the "quiet splash --" from the end of this line (don't worry, nothing is saved when you do this, so nothing is broken beyond a reboot if you erase the wrong thing), and add the following:
noapic noacpi

Now, hit enter to boot it. This time, you should see a lot more output of things... where does it seem to get stuck on? (It's not important to write everything down, just what you determine is important)

More detailed documentation on this process can be found here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

Let me know if this helps!

-Allen

Thank you very much for responding!

I typed in the Noapic and noacpi thing and it still hangs on the screen right after it. There is no text, and there is just a small underscore blinking in the top left corner of the screen. I know that the disk is not defective because i booted Ubuntu from the cd, so that should work. Please let me know what i should do. Thank you very much.

Try other some commons parameters by putting them one by one or together:
noacpi nolapic nodma all_generic_ide

Hope this helps

Im srry to bother you guys, but it still does the same thing. Could it possibly be the way i told it to install or partition, whatever that means? ive tried all of these things that you have suggested, and they all just dont even start to load. Thanks for your time :)

Brian

The only other thing I can think of, is something is wrong/changed with the way your hard drives are hooked up. Answer as many of the below questions as you can make sense of:

Do you have more than one drive in the system? Are they IDE (about 3" wide, very thin cable, usually grey), or SATA (1/2" wide, also rather thin and usually red) cables?

If it's IDE, who is on the primary channel, and which one is the master and slave? Secondary master and slave?

If you have both SATA and IDE, in the bios what is the "hard drive order" (this is my bios's name for it... yours may differ, but basically it's where you choose if you want to boot from the first SATA drive, or the primary master IDE drive)

When you turn the computer on, and are in the GRUB boot menu (where you normally press the "e" for edit), one of the lines should be a
root (hd0,0)

What is this line? (the above corresponds to the primary master (first zero)'s first partition (second zero)). You may try changing these numbers around, but this will probably only result in "drive not found" or similar

Finally, since the CD did work without additional options, the install should work without additional options... I wonder if a re-install would be easier?

-allen

Quoting Allen Chemist <email address hidden>:

> Your question #23973 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23973
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Allen Chemist requested for more information:
> The only other thing I can think of, is something is wrong/changed with
> the way your hard drives are hooked up. Answer as many of the below
> questions as you can make sense of:
>
> Do you have more than one drive in the system? Are they IDE (about 3"
> wide, very thin cable, usually grey), or SATA (1/2" wide, also rather
> thin and usually red) cables?

The Master drive is SATA, a 120 gig, and the slave is IDE i think, and
is 40 gigs

>
> If it's IDE, who is on the primary channel, and which one is the master
> and slave? Secondary master and slave?

I am the only one on the drive, and the Sata is my main drive. The IDE
is what Ubuntu is installed on, and that is my secondary.
>
> If you have both SATA and IDE, in the bios what is the "hard drive
> order" (this is my bios's name for it... yours may differ, but basically
> it's where you choose if you want to boot from the first SATA drive, or
> the primary master IDE drive)

The Master SATA is set to boot first, but ive been trying to boot from
the other drive through the boot menu. (choosing what drive to boot
from)

>
> When you turn the computer on, and are in the GRUB boot menu (where
> you normally press the "e" for edit), one of the lines should be a
> root (hd0,0)
>
> What is this line? (the above corresponds to the primary master (first
> zero)'s first partition (second zero)). You may try changing these
> numbers around, but this will probably only result in "drive not found"
> or similar

Its a hd0,0 deal, and i guess i can try to reinstall, but heres the
other question. My second drive does not appear in windows "my
computer" anymore. in addor remove hardware it recognizes the drive,
but i cannot format the other drive because it is not there anymore.
Any ideas?
>
> Finally, since the CD did work without additional options, the install
> should work without additional options... I wonder if a re-install would
> be easier?
>
> -allen

Thanks again, Brian
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Hey Brian

I don't have that sort of setup in front of me, so I can't test it before saying anything, so here is a guess on where to look and what to try.

You say it boots to the sata first, and the ide drive is the primary slave, try changing the (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) by highlighting the line and hitting the e key. There is a good explanation about drive names here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lennartb/bootloaders/node7.html

What about in XP, under disk management? XP Probably wouldn't see the drive in "My Computer", because it doesn't understand the linux formatting of the drive. If you use XP, do a start -> run and type in diskmgmt.msc

Your drive should show up as a 40gb drive with an unknown partition on it.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Question #23973]: Ubuntu stops at "starting up" messageafter
Grub Loader

Your question #23973 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23973

    Status: Open => Answered

Allen Chemist proposed the following answer:
Hey Brian

I don't have that sort of setup in front of me, so I can't test it
before saying anything, so here is a guess on where to look and what to
try.

You say it boots to the sata first, and the ide drive is the primary slave,
try changing the (hd0,0) to (hd1,0) by highlighting the line and hitting the
e key. There is a good explanation about drive names here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~lennartb/bootloaders/node7.html

What about in XP, under disk management? XP Probably wouldn't see the
drive in "My Computer", because it doesn't understand the linux
formatting of the drive. If you use XP, do a start -> run and type in
diskmgmt.msc

Your drive should show up as a 40gb drive with an unknown partition on
it.

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Thank you for responding so quickly! I really appreciate the help I am
receiving. I would like to know how I can make my drive show up in order to
format it in windows. Im going to try to reinstall Ubuntu and then go from
there, but my 40 gig drive only shows up in diskmgmt.msc, and I really want
it to be formatted so it will show up in "my computer." Is there a way to
make this possible?

"Format it in windows" -- this would be unnecessary before an ubuntu install -- the ubuntu installer allows you to format the disk during the install. When you get to the part about disk partitioning, I believe the default is to "shrink existing, and use the new space". This would shrink your windows partition you created before the install, then format the blank space to a Linux filesystem. Heren you would want to choose "use entire disk" (just make sure it's the 40gb disk, and NOT your windows disk!!)

If you want the disk to show up in "My Computer", _AND_ have Ubuntu installed on it you will need a driver for windows to help it understand the formatting. Such a driver is free, and available here:
http://www.fs-driver.org/

Thank you for that link, and now the drive shows up in my computer. However,
I wanted to completely format the drive to have the 40 gigs of space back
and totally have a blank drive. After running the driver, I now only have
1.57 gigs of space on my drive, or so it says, and when I try to format it,
only lets me choose 1.57 gigs. Please help me get my space back!!!

Brian

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Subject: RE: [Question #23973]: Ubuntu stops at "starting up"messageafter
Grub Loader

Your question #23973 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/23973

    Status: Open => Answered

Allen Chemist proposed the following answer:
"Format it in windows" -- this would be unnecessary before an ubuntu
install -- the ubuntu installer allows you to format the disk during the
install. When you get to the part about disk partitioning, I believe
the default is to "shrink existing, and use the new space". This would
shrink your windows partition you created before the install, then
format the blank space to a Linux filesystem. Heren you would want to
choose "use entire disk" (just make sure it's the 40gb disk, and NOT
your windows disk!!)

If you want the disk to show up in "My Computer", _AND_ have Ubuntu
installed on it you will need a driver for windows to help it understand the
formatting. Such a driver is free, and available here:
http://www.fs-driver.org/

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