How did a purely political magazine (Tinta Roja) wind up in the Ubuntu Software Center?

Asked by David Queen

I think that what should happen instead is that political tracts not be found in the Software Center.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Why are they any less valid to appear than any other magazine? If people want to buy it then they can. Canonical is a company, companies like and need money to exist, selling products in demand to make that profit is logical. When stock ceases to turn profit then it will be removed. If all the magazines which people thought should not be there were removed, then there would be zero magazines available due to the broad spectrum of users and their views.

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David Queen (maskimummu) said :
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On 01/28/2013 03:41 AM, actionparsnip wrote:
> When stock ceases to turn profit then it will be removed.
Well there you have it. Both "Tinta Roja" and "Contrapunt" are
available for free and will _never_ turn a profit. In what way is a
"Software Center" supposed to cater to a "broad spectrum" of user
viewpoints? Do you really mean to suggest that if a political magazine
has no place in a "Software Center", then neither do Ubuntu magazines or
Linux magazines or Libre Software magazines? Quite the conflation,
that, and not on my part. There are lots of legit books and magazines
in the Software Center. They deal with computers and computer software,
which seems appropriate to me. It should be kept that way. Let Ubuntu
start a book store , like the music store for the other stuff if such is
desired - I might even buy a thing or two there. Put things in their
proper places.

take care,

David A. Queen

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Warren Hill (warren-hill) said :
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Personally I don't want to see any magazines in the software centre but the software centre as I feel the best format for a magazine is a simple pdf file so there should nothing to install people can just sign up to a list to get it emailed to them or download from a web site.

However, the software centre is there to make it easy for get the software they want. Anyone can submit a request see here

http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/ and http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/application-states/

All applications are reviewed but the the review process is mostly technical to ensure the product does what it says and contains no malicious code. It's not, should not be the roll of Canonical to choose what people can read.

Your suggestion for an Ubuntu bookshop is a good one provided its a separate application however as it would mean that books did not get in the way when you are looking for programs and programs would not get in the way when you are looking for books.

Suggest it here
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

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Hugo Venhorst (yougo) said :
#4

Warren, your points are valid. However, when i opened the dash, i was presented with a bright red communist flag, proudly waving, even before i typed a single letter!

there are places in the world where that can cause problems.

We (i do hope so anyway) take effort no sexually explicit material pops up where it shouldn't. i would think the same goes for political pamphlets.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#5

What about System Of A Down and Rage Against The Machine and other politically motivated bands. Lets van those. Yeah ban anything political. Be serious.

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Hugo Venhorst (yougo) said :
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Please let's not start with hyperbolic and polarizing comments. they're not helpful at all.

no-one is talking about banning, or censoring (should anyone bring that up). just putting things where they belong.

Both your examples are music. they should go in the music store. they also have their own lens
Videos and movies go in a separate lens
a political pamphlet is literature. it should go in a book store, and in a separate lens

a political pamphlet is not software. it should not show up among apps, and certainly not among my (to be) installed apps.

i want neither music or literature showing up in the Dash unless i am actually looking for it
i want my Dash to not show any sort of political flag waving unless i put it there.

and please use the appropriate button to add your comment, as your post wasn't a proposed solution.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Hugo Venhorst (yougo) said :
#8

^ Now, that is a solution :) and judging by the poll, a well backed one as well. i vote for a bookstore, with a dedicated lens in the dash.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#9

It's a known issue with people asking for it. I don't know what else to add

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David Queen (maskimummu) said :
#10

On 01/28/2013 03:51 PM, actionparsnip wrote:
> Your question #220320 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/220320
>
> actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
> What about System Of A Down and Rage Against The Machine and other
> politically motivated bands. Lets van those. Yeah ban anything
> political. Be serious.
>
I checked the Software Center - no System of a Down and no Rage Against
the Machine. I checked the Ubuntu One Music Store - Rage Against the
Machine (don't like so much) is there, System of a Down is there (like
more, especially B.Y.O.B.), Dead Kennedys is there (like still more,
especially the album "Plastic Surgery Disasters"), but CR@SS is not
there (who I like the most of these, especially "Big A, Little A").
There appears to be no ban on political music in the _Music Store_.
Fancy that. I don't care what would show up in an Ubuntu One Book
Store. The Software Center is for software and software related
materials. Or isn't it?

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David Queen (maskimummu) said :
#11

On 01/28/2013 04:45 PM, actionparsnip wrote:
> Your question #220320 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/220320
>
> actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
> It's a known issue with people asking for it. I don't know what else to
> add
>
I definitely support the creation of a book store, magazine store, "news
stand" or "views stand", maybe something akin to a college kiosk; not a
problem. Software in the Software Center, literature in the "Lit
Center" or some such. Organized, elegant, Ubuntu. Come for the OS,
stay for the friends.

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