No restore points after boot from a CD

Asked by Paul Romero

Dear Staff:

I sucessfully used systemback to create a restore point and image on an Ubuntu 15.05 system.
The I converted the system to ISO format and used braseror to burn it onto a CD.

I am able to boot from the CD and invoke systemback. However, I don't see any
restore points in the systemback GUI display. Can you help ?

My understanding is that the restore point information should be stored on
the CD.

Best Regards,

Paul R.

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Kendek (nemh) said :
#1

The Live itself is a restore point. You can perform with a system installation, copy and repair. If you want to see the created restore points, just set the storage directory. The restore points are stored on the hard disk in the storage directory (the default is the "/home" on the original system). If you select a restore point, you can perform a system repair (after mounted the affected partitions under the "/mnt").

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Paul Romero (paulr-k) said :
#2

Hi Mr. Kendrek:

If I understand what you wrote, If you use the Live CD to install the
Ubuntu OS,
it will automatically restore it to the state it had at the time the CD
was created.
(i.e. You can also repair the hard disk OS, or just copy the entire OS
from the CD.)
If so, does the Live CD installation include reformatting the hard disk, and
automatically restore the partitioning scheme ?

Although, the CD has restore points, they are irrelevant. In fact the
CD should
work to restore the OS even if the /home directory on the hard disk contains
no restore points. Is that correct ?

The tutorials and documentation I have readd suggest that you can use
restore
points on a CD to restore the OS with the "System Restore" option. I
guess this is false.

Best Regards,

Paul R.

On 06/13/2015 10:21 PM, Kendek wrote:
> Your question #268126 on Systemback changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/systemback/+question/268126
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Kendek proposed the following answer:
> The Live itself is a restore point. You can perform with a system
> installation, copy and repair. If you want to see the created restore
> points, just set the storage directory. The restore points are stored on
> the hard disk in the storage directory (the default is the "/home" on
> the original system). If you select a restore point, you can perform a
> system repair (after mounted the affected partitions under the "/mnt").
>

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Paul Romero (paulr-k) said :
#3

Dear Mr Kendrick:

I do not have an operational problem as I don't currently need to
restore my OS.
However, I need to be sure I understand how systemback works.

Best Regards,

Paul R.

On 06/14/2015 09:01 AM, Paul Romero wrote:
> Your question #268126 on Systemback changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/systemback/+question/268126
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> You are still having a problem:
> Hi Mr. Kendrek:
>
> If I understand what you wrote, If you use the Live CD to install the
> Ubuntu OS,
> it will automatically restore it to the state it had at the time the CD
> was created.
> (i.e. You can also repair the hard disk OS, or just copy the entire OS
> from the CD.)
> If so, does the Live CD installation include reformatting the hard disk, and
> automatically restore the partitioning scheme ?
>
> Although, the CD has restore points, they are irrelevant. In fact the
> CD should
> work to restore the OS even if the /home directory on the hard disk contains
> no restore points. Is that correct ?
>
> The tutorials and documentation I have readd suggest that you can use
> restore
> points on a CD to restore the OS with the "System Restore" option. I
> guess this is false.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Paul R.
>
>
> On 06/13/2015 10:21 PM, Kendek wrote:
>> Your question #268126 on Systemback changed:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/systemback/+question/268126
>>
>> Status: Open => Answered
>>
>> Kendek proposed the following answer:
>> The Live itself is a restore point. You can perform with a system
>> installation, copy and repair. If you want to see the created restore
>> points, just set the storage directory. The restore points are stored on
>> the hard disk in the storage directory (the default is the "/home" on
>> the original system). If you select a restore point, you can perform a
>> system repair (after mounted the affected partitions under the "/mnt").
>>
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>
>
> Paul Romero
> -----------
> RCOM Communications Software
> EMAIL: <email address hidden>
> PHONE: (510)339-2628
>

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Kendek (nemh) said :
#4

If you copy or install the Systemback Live, the /etc/fstab file will be recreated. You need to set the partitions in the "Partition settings". So if you want, delete or create partitions, or just use the old ones (with or without formatting).

The Live does not contains any restore points, the Live is a restore point, itself.
The "System restore" menu does not work on the Live, only on the installed systems. The system restore method is a online restoration (on the currently running system), the repair is a offline (the affected partitions are mounted under the /mnt, the system is offline).

The copy and install functions are created a new system with or without new partitions and other new settings. The restore and repair functions are restore the original system to the previous state.

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Paul Romero (paulr-k) said :
#5

Hi Mr. Kendrek:

Thank you for the clarification

My sysnposis of the procedure for backing up and restoring a system follow.
Please let me know if you disagree.

Best Regards,

Paul R.

***************************** Systembackup Synopsis
*****************************************

                 Ubuntu Backup and Restoral

Backup Tool
-----------
This is how to install the systembackup program if you don't have it.
It creates a bootable backup disk with an OS snapshot--plus user files
is desired.

     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nemh/systemback
     sudo apt-get update
     sudo apt-get install systemback

Creating a Backup Disk
-----------------------
(i.e. Best done with networking disabled.)

A) Create of the backup image.

* Start systemback

* Create a new "Restore Point"--the restore point for this backup.

* Select "Live System Create"

* Verify that the backup directory is valid--usually /home and
   that the system name is valid--usually auto is best.

* Indicate if "user data files" are to be included in the backup.
   NOTE: It is possible to "exclude" unwanted backup files.

* Select "Create new"
   This creates a backup file suffixed by .sblive

* Convert the file to ISO format by higlighting the file name and
   selected "Convert to ISO". This create a burnable ISO file in
   the same directory as the .sblive file.

* Exit the program.

B) Transfer the backup image to a CD

* Insert a CD in the drive and kill any programs triggered by insertion.

* Use brasero to burn an the ISO file onto the CD.

System Restoral
---------------

* Insert a backup CD disk in the drive.

* Boot the machine, hit F7, and select booting from the CD Rom.

* Eventually the system will come up normally.

* Start systembackup

* Select "System Install", in most cases, and follow the instructions
   for using the previosly existing partition scheme. If you are brave,
   or trying to clone a system, you can try "System Copy".

* Hope it works.

On 06/15/2015 07:16 AM, Kendek wrote:
> Your question #268126 on Systemback changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/systemback/+question/268126
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Kendek proposed the following answer:
> If you copy or install the Systemback Live, the /etc/fstab file will be
> recreated. You need to set the partitions in the "Partition settings".
> So if you want, delete or create partitions, or just use the old ones
> (with or without formatting).
>
> The Live does not contains any restore points, the Live is a restore point, itself.
> The "System restore" menu does not work on the Live, only on the installed systems. The system restore method is a online restoration (on the currently running system), the repair is a offline (the affected partitions are mounted under the /mnt, the system is offline).
>
> The copy and install functions are created a new system with or without
> new partitions and other new settings. The restore and repair functions
> are restore the original system to the previous state.
>

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Paul Romero
-----------
RCOM Communications Software
EMAIL: <email address hidden>
PHONE: (510)339-2628

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Kendek (nemh) said :
#6

Yes, but on the created Live systems, the Systemback is starting with system install option by default (so basically with clicked "System install" button). But this is not of great significance.
If you do not want to create a new system with a new username, hostname and passwords, the best choice the system copy function (so if you started the Systemback on the Live, click the Back button and select the "System copy").
And I prefer the pendrives and memory cards instead of the obsolete and slow optical disks. Just create an .sblive image (4 GB+ size is acceptable, .iso is obsolete) and write it with Systemback internal writer.

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