How to add clip-art as a layer

Asked by Don Tatum

I need to add a clip art hex grid to a map as a layer, not just as an object. How do I do that?

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#1

"Clip art hex grid" That description makes it sound like it's an image, such as GIF or JPG. If that's the case, simply open the layer where you want it, and import the image. Of course, it will be an object. There's no way around that. Imported images can only be objects.

Depending on the quality of that image (still assuming that's what you mean) you might be able to turn it into a vector image. Import, then Path menu > Trace Bitmap. But it still will be an object.

If what you need is a grid which will not be part of the finished image, you can do either one of the above, and then just delete the grid image, when you're finished.

Orrrr, and this might be the best answer, Inkscape actually has an axonomic (isometric) grid which could be used as a hex grid. Just like regular (rectangular) grids, they are fully customizable. See Document Properties > Grids.

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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#2

Thank you very much for your reply. I'm very new to using any graphic art software, and undoubtedly don't even know the terminology well enough to ask a proper question. For example, I’m not sure what the difference is between an image and an object.

The hex grid I'm looking for needs to be a layer on a finished map, I want the land continents to sit on top of the hex grid so that the hex grid only shows up on the water area of the world map. I found a clip art hex grid, but can’t seem to insert it as a true layer. I don’t know enough to be able to tell you if the grid is to be part of the finished image, but I think it should be as the final map product will show the hex grid on the water portions of the world map. Adjusting the size of all of the hexes is important for tweaking, as is being able to move the grid itself around (which I would think you could do with Shift+Control+M).

I did look at the axonomic grid you directed me to, but I’m unsure how to customize that and turn it into a hexagon grid.

Don

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-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:42 PM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:

https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

    Status: Open => Answered

Brynn proposed the following answer:

"Clip art hex grid" That description makes it sound like it's an image,

such as GIF or JPG. If that's the case, simply open the layer where you

want it, and import the image. Of course, it will be an object.

There's no way around that. Imported images can only be objects.

Depending on the quality of that image (still assuming that's what you

mean) you might be able to turn it into a vector image. Import, then

Path menu > Trace Bitmap. But it still will be an object.

If what you need is a grid which will not be part of the finished image,

you can do either one of the above, and then just delete the grid image,

when you're finished.

Orrrr, and this might be the best answer, Inkscape actually has an

axonomic (isometric) grid which could be used as a hex grid. Just like

regular (rectangular) grids, they are fully customizable. See Document

Properties > Grids.

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#3

Oh ok, now I am much more clear on what you're trying to do, and Inkscape's axonomic grid is probably not what you want, after all. The good news is that I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do what you want. The not-so-good news, is that it will take at least intermediate skills to do it, and maybe some advanced skills. I (or others) could walk you through it, but this Launchpad Answers forum format is not the best place to help you, with such a complex project. I'm sure that all of those who participate here can help you. That's not the problem. The problem is that there's no way to attach or display images, which most likely will be necessary to help get you through to your final result.

All the Inkscape forums that I know about are listed here: http://inkscape.org/en/learn/ They all are reputable forums, and all can help you competently. I'm a moderator at the 1st one in the list, and admin of the 2nd one. So I could definitely help you at Inkscape Community. And if I happen to be around, at InkscapeForum.com, I could help you there as well. But again, any member who volunteers to help you, will be capable. Just be sure to give all the details you mentioned in your 2nd msg here. (And any others that might be relevant.)

I suppose we could communicate via email (go to my profile and click Contact this User link). I guess that's how this Launchpad Answers format is supposed to work. I much prefer to do it on a public forum, where others will be able to benefit from all the various comments that might be posted. But I'd be glad to work through email privately, if you like :-)

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#4

But PS, there's a bit of spam in your last msg. Or maybe it's a custom signature in your email account? But I would not be happy to receive spam from you, and probably would retract my offer to help, if it's anything more than your email signature. Sorry to be so blunt.

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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#5

Since I'm the one asking for help, I'll be happy to use a public forum. Just out of curiosity, could you post an email chain to the public forum after we're done? That would allow some editing on your part as needed.

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-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 1:56 PM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

    Status: Open => Answered

Brynn proposed the following answer:
Oh ok, now I am much more clear on what you're trying to do, and
Inkscape's axonomic grid is probably not what you want, after all. The
good news is that I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do what you want.
The not-so-good news, is that it will take at least intermediate skills
to do it, and maybe some advanced skills. I (or others) could walk you
through it, but this Launchpad Answers forum format is not the best
place to help you, with such a complex project. I'm sure that all of
those who participate here can help you. That's not the problem. The
problem is that there's no way to attach or display images, which most
likely will be necessary to help get you through to your final result.

All the Inkscape forums that I know about are listed here:
http://inkscape.org/en/learn/ They all are reputable forums, and all
can help you competently. I'm a moderator at the 1st one in the list,
and admin of the 2nd one. So I could definitely help you at Inkscape
Community. And if I happen to be around, at InkscapeForum.com, I could
help you there as well. But again, any member who volunteers to help
you, will be capable. Just be sure to give all the details you
mentioned in your 2nd msg here. (And any others that might be
relevant.)

I suppose we could communicate via email (go to my profile and click
Contact this User link). I guess that's how this Launchpad Answers
format is supposed to work. I much prefer to do it on a public forum,
where others will be able to benefit from all the various comments that
might be posted. But I'd be glad to work through email privately, if
you like :-)

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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#6

I don't think it is spam. I work for a city government and my agency automatically tacks on public service messages. Highly unlikely that any spam could get through the firewalls and such.

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 2:07 PM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

Brynn posted a new comment:
But PS, there's a bit of spam in your last msg. Or maybe it's a custom
signature in your email account? But I would not be happy to receive
spam from you, and probably would retract my offer to help, if it's
anything more than your email signature. Sorry to be so blunt.

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#7

Oh gosh. I'm afraid I don't know what an "email chain to a public forum" means.

Do you mean make a link to the topic that your going to start somewhere?

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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#8

Copy/paste, not a link. We solve the problem with an email discussion, then you do any edits you want to our emails for the sake of clarity and brevity for the benefit of readers of the forum, then you just copy paste your/our final work to the public forum. Most web sites allow copy/paste actions.

I'm about to go home for the week, and I'll be off next week taking a class, so I won't be ignoring any replies received after about 20 minutes from now. This is not an urgent problem, so I'm happy to address it upon my return.

Don

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-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 3:42 PM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

Brynn posted a new comment:
Oh gosh. I'm afraid I don't know what an "email chain to a public
forum" means.

Do you mean make a link to the topic that your going to start somewhere?

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#9

Oh, I think I understand. No it's not that important to me. We can just work via email. And I've missed you by now. So I should say this, for when you get back.

I want to make sure you understand that the problem you've presented may be solved, probably or at least theoretically, in a few different ways. Whatever way I think of may not be necessarily the best way. And others in the forum may know a better way. It sounds like your project may evolve, as we explore options, which makes "keeping options open" more important.

While I have almost 8 years experience with Inkscape, and my knowledge is very strong on the basics, and strong on intermediate skills, I'm pretty weak on advanced skills. And while I could probably get you where you want to be with my set of skills, there are members....I should say members at InkscapeForum.com, who have much more advanced knowledge than me, and may have a much more elegant solution.

So I'm still happy to help you out with this, and look forward to the solving this very interesting problem. But in the end, you still may want to know if there are other approaches, which would be found at InkscapeForum.com.

For example, the 1st question I would ask, before we get started, is do you need this functionality on a webpage? Or does functionality where the grid can be resized and moved relative to the map, need to happen only in Inkscape? If it needs to be on a webpage.....I will very much be inching my way, and learning as I go, and still might not get there. While I know there are members at IF who already know how to do it.

Also, if you need to put any scripting into it, or somehow automate this functionality, I also won't be much help. For example, is it going to be part of a game?

Well ok then, I'll wait for your msg in a week or so, and we'll go from there :-)

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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#10

Hi Brynn,

I'm back from 'vacation' (taking an accreditation course all week). To answer your questions, no, the end product will not be used on a webpage (something I hadn't even thought of). I'm not sure by what you mean by "scripting". The end product will be used in a game, but a board game, not an online or computer game. The end product will be a hard copy map printed on large paper at some place like Kinko's.

Thank you for insightful assistance and keep asking questions as needed. I don't need an elegant fix, just a fix :-)

Don Tatum

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-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 6:02 PM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

Brynn posted a new comment:
Oh, I think I understand. No it's not that important to me. We can
just work via email. And I've missed you by now. So I should say this,
for when you get back.

I want to make sure you understand that the problem you've presented may
be solved, probably or at least theoretically, in a few different ways.
Whatever way I think of may not be necessarily the best way. And others
in the forum may know a better way. It sounds like your project may
evolve, as we explore options, which makes "keeping options open" more
important.

While I have almost 8 years experience with Inkscape, and my knowledge
is very strong on the basics, and strong on intermediate skills, I'm
pretty weak on advanced skills. And while I could probably get you
where you want to be with my set of skills, there are members....I
should say members at InkscapeForum.com, who have much more advanced
knowledge than me, and may have a much more elegant solution.

So I'm still happy to help you out with this, and look forward to the
solving this very interesting problem. But in the end, you still may
want to know if there are other approaches, which would be found at
InkscapeForum.com.

For example, the 1st question I would ask, before we get started, is do
you need this functionality on a webpage? Or does functionality where
the grid can be resized and moved relative to the map, need to happen
only in Inkscape? If it needs to be on a webpage.....I will very much
be inching my way, and learning as I go, and still might not get there.
While I know there are members at IF who already know how to do it.

Also, if you need to put any scripting into it, or somehow automate this
functionality, I also won't be much help. For example, is it going to
be part of a game?

Well ok then, I'll wait for your msg in a week or so, and we'll go from
there :-)

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
#11

Oh, I see. I thought when I asked for the email notification, that we would
be privately emailing. But it's all going public anyway. I wonder if an
attachment to the email, gets attached to the Answers topic? Maybe we'll
have a chance to try it later.

Ok, so it's going to be a board game in real life, not on a computer or the
internet. So when you said the grid needs to be scalable, is that just
during the design phase? You don't need it to be scalable in the finished
product, because that would be made of paper or cardboard, or something.
Right?

Well actually, we might need to try the file attaching already.

The next thing I need to know about, is the clipart grid. Is it strictly
lines, like the Inkscape grids I told you about? Or is it sort of stylized,
like maybe to give it a 3D appearance, or look metallic or wooden, or
something like that?

The reason I'm asking, is because of the requirement that it be scalable.
To be scalable without distortion (as a raster image would be) it will need
to be vector. Well, unless it already is vector? "Clipart" usually refers
to a raster format, but not always.

If it's simply lines, it would be easy to trace "manually" using the
Pen/Bezier tool. Although if it's simply lines, you should be able to use
one of the several kinds of grids that can be drawn with Inkscape extensions
or LPE.

However, if the grid image is stylized, so that it looks 3D or wooden, or
whatever, that will make things much more complicated. Inkscape has a tool
in the Path menu > Trace Bitmap, which can convert the image to vector.
However, it's not capable of precisely reproducing any image. If it's a
very complex image, it's doubtful the result will look exactly like the
image (or in some cases, hardly at all like it). So if it's stylized, we
can save a lot of potential headaches if I can see it first.

I'd say go ahead and try attaching it to your email reply. If it works, we
can just keep on. If not, click on my username, to go to my Lp profile.
There, there's a link that says "Contact this user". I'm pretty sure that
will send me a private email. And be sure to give me your address.

brynn

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Don Tatum" <email address hidden>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:02 AM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

> Question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
> Don Tatum gave more information on the question:
> Hi Brynn,
>
> I'm back from 'vacation' (taking an accreditation course all week). To
> answer your questions, no, the end product will not be used on a webpage
> (something I hadn't even thought of). I'm not sure by what you mean by
> "scripting". The end product will be used in a game, but a board game,
> not an online or computer game. The end product will be a hard copy map
> printed on large paper at some place like Kinko's.
>
> Thank you for insightful assistance and keep asking questions as needed.
> I don't need an elegant fix, just a fix :-)
>
> Don Tatum
>
>
> With the D.C. Free Summer Meals Program <http://onecityyouth.dc.gov/page
> /featured-programs>, kids and teens eat for free at schools, parks,
> libraries and community organizations all summer long! Call 211, text
> FOOD to (202) 656-5EAT or visit www.onecityyouth.dc.gov
> <http://www.onecityyouth.dc.gov> to find a site near you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of
> Brynn
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 6:02 PM
> To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
> Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer
>
> Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
> Brynn posted a new comment:
> Oh, I think I understand. No it's not that important to me. We can
> just work via email. And I've missed you by now. So I should say this,
> for when you get back.
>
> I want to make sure you understand that the problem you've presented may
> be solved, probably or at least theoretically, in a few different ways.
> Whatever way I think of may not be necessarily the best way. And others
> in the forum may know a better way. It sounds like your project may
> evolve, as we explore options, which makes "keeping options open" more
> important.
>
> While I have almost 8 years experience with Inkscape, and my knowledge
> is very strong on the basics, and strong on intermediate skills, I'm
> pretty weak on advanced skills. And while I could probably get you
> where you want to be with my set of skills, there are members....I
> should say members at InkscapeForum.com, who have much more advanced
> knowledge than me, and may have a much more elegant solution.
>
> So I'm still happy to help you out with this, and look forward to the
> solving this very interesting problem. But in the end, you still may
> want to know if there are other approaches, which would be found at
> InkscapeForum.com.
>
> For example, the 1st question I would ask, before we get started, is do
> you need this functionality on a webpage? Or does functionality where
> the grid can be resized and moved relative to the map, need to happen
> only in Inkscape? If it needs to be on a webpage.....I will very much
> be inching my way, and learning as I go, and still might not get there.
> While I know there are members at IF who already know how to do it.
>
> Also, if you need to put any scripting into it, or somehow automate this
> functionality, I also won't be much help. For example, is it going to
> be part of a game?
>
> Well ok then, I'll wait for your msg in a week or so, and we'll go from
> there :-)
>
> --
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>
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Don Tatum (donald-tatum) said :
#12

Correct, scalable only during the design phase, final product will be on paper. The hex grid is strictly lines, no style. Not positive if it is clip-art or not, my guess is yes. Any hex grid vector based object you can find is what I’ll use. Attached is my latest product, an Inkscape saved file. If the attached file doesn’t make it, then I’ll try again using the procedure you outlined in your last email.

The snag so far is to be able to select a whole bunch of hexes and scale them all at once, as a separate layer.

Don

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-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Brynn
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:47 AM
To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:

https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

    Status: Open => Answered

Brynn proposed the following answer:

Oh, I see. I thought when I asked for the email notification, that we would

be privately emailing. But it's all going public anyway. I wonder if an

attachment to the email, gets attached to the Answers topic? Maybe we'll

have a chance to try it later.

Ok, so it's going to be a board game in real life, not on a computer or the

internet. So when you said the grid needs to be scalable, is that just

during the design phase? You don't need it to be scalable in the finished

product, because that would be made of paper or cardboard, or something.

Right?

Well actually, we might need to try the file attaching already.

The next thing I need to know about, is the clipart grid. Is it strictly

lines, like the Inkscape grids I told you about? Or is it sort of stylized,

like maybe to give it a 3D appearance, or look metallic or wooden, or

something like that?

The reason I'm asking, is because of the requirement that it be scalable.

To be scalable without distortion (as a raster image would be) it will need

to be vector. Well, unless it already is vector? "Clipart" usually refers

to a raster format, but not always.

If it's simply lines, it would be easy to trace "manually" using the

Pen/Bezier tool. Although if it's simply lines, you should be able to use

one of the several kinds of grids that can be drawn with Inkscape extensions

or LPE.

However, if the grid image is stylized, so that it looks 3D or wooden, or

whatever, that will make things much more complicated. Inkscape has a tool

in the Path menu > Trace Bitmap, which can convert the image to vector.

However, it's not capable of precisely reproducing any image. If it's a

very complex image, it's doubtful the result will look exactly like the

image (or in some cases, hardly at all like it). So if it's stylized, we

can save a lot of potential headaches if I can see it first.

I'd say go ahead and try attaching it to your email reply. If it works, we

can just keep on. If not, click on my username, to go to my Lp profile.

There, there's a link that says "Contact this user". I'm pretty sure that

will send me a private email. And be sure to give me your address.

brynn

--------------------------------------------------

From: "Don Tatum" <email address hidden>

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:02 AM

To: <email address hidden>

Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

> Question #250469 on Inkscape changed:

> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

>

> Don Tatum gave more information on the question:

> Hi Brynn,

>

> I'm back from 'vacation' (taking an accreditation course all week). To

> answer your questions, no, the end product will not be used on a webpage

> (something I hadn't even thought of). I'm not sure by what you mean by

> "scripting". The end product will be used in a game, but a board game,

> not an online or computer game. The end product will be a hard copy map

> printed on large paper at some place like Kinko's.

>

> Thank you for insightful assistance and keep asking questions as needed.

> I don't need an elegant fix, just a fix :-)

>

> Don Tatum

>

>

> With the D.C. Free Summer Meals Program <http://onecityyouth.dc.gov/page

> /featured-programs>, kids and teens eat for free at schools, parks,

> libraries and community organizations all summer long! Call 211, text

> FOOD to (202) 656-5EAT or visit www.onecityyouth.dc.gov

> <http://www.onecityyouth.dc.gov> to find a site near you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of

> Brynn

> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 6:02 PM

> To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)

> Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

>

> Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:

> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469

>

> Brynn posted a new comment:

> Oh, I think I understand. No it's not that important to me. We can

> just work via email. And I've missed you by now. So I should say this,

> for when you get back.

>

> I want to make sure you understand that the problem you've presented may

> be solved, probably or at least theoretically, in a few different ways.

> Whatever way I think of may not be necessarily the best way. And others

> in the forum may know a better way. It sounds like your project may

> evolve, as we explore options, which makes "keeping options open" more

> important.

>

> While I have almost 8 years experience with Inkscape, and my knowledge

> is very strong on the basics, and strong on intermediate skills, I'm

> pretty weak on advanced skills. And while I could probably get you

> where you want to be with my set of skills, there are members....I

> should say members at InkscapeForum.com, who have much more advanced

> knowledge than me, and may have a much more elegant solution.

>

> So I'm still happy to help you out with this, and look forward to the

> solving this very interesting problem. But in the end, you still may

> want to know if there are other approaches, which would be found at

> InkscapeForum.com.

>

> For example, the 1st question I would ask, before we get started, is do

> you need this functionality on a webpage? Or does functionality where

> the grid can be resized and moved relative to the map, need to happen

> only in Inkscape? If it needs to be on a webpage.....I will very much

> be inching my way, and learning as I go, and still might not get there.

> While I know there are members at IF who already know how to do it.

>

> Also, if you need to put any scripting into it, or somehow automate this

> functionality, I also won't be much help. For example, is it going to

> be part of a game?

>

> Well ok then, I'll wait for your msg in a week or so, and we'll go from

> there :-)

>

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Brynn (brynn4inks-deactivatedaccount) said :
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Well no, I don't see any file attached to the email or in Answers online.
Since I'm "IT" at the moment, it will save us at least 1 exchange if I go
ahead and message you with my address. So look for a message in whatever
account you registered Launchpad with.

Meanwhile, I'll look into what kinds of grids Inkscape can draw. I've never
looked very closely before. This is exactly why I like to try to help and
answer people's questions, because I learn so much!!

Oh, scaling the hex grid won't be a problem at all. Not unless we run into
something I'm not expecting, lol.

brynn

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From: "Don Tatum" <email address hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:32 PM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer

> Question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> Don Tatum is still having a problem:
> Correct, scalable only during the design phase, final product will be on
> paper. The hex grid is strictly lines, no style. Not positive if it is
> clip-art or not, my guess is yes. Any hex grid vector based object you
> can find is what I’ll use. Attached is my latest product, an Inkscape
> saved file. If the attached file doesn’t make it, then I’ll try again
> using the procedure you outlined in your last email.
>
>
> The snag so far is to be able to select a whole bunch of hexes and scale
> them all at once, as a separate layer.
>
>
> Don
>
>
> With the D.C. Free Summer Meals Program<http://onecityyouth.dc.gov/page
> /featured-programs>, kids and teens eat for free at schools, parks,
> libraries and community organizations all summer long! Call 211, text
> FOOD to (202) 656-5EAT or visit
> www.onecityyouth.dc.gov<http://www.onecityyouth.dc.gov> to find a site
> near you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of
> Brynn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:47 AM
> To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
> Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer
>
>
> Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
>
> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
>
> Brynn proposed the following answer:
>
> Oh, I see. I thought when I asked for the email notification, that we
> would
>
> be privately emailing. But it's all going public anyway. I wonder if
> an
>
> attachment to the email, gets attached to the Answers topic? Maybe
> we'll
>
> have a chance to try it later.
>
>
> Ok, so it's going to be a board game in real life, not on a computer or
> the
>
> internet. So when you said the grid needs to be scalable, is that just
>
> during the design phase? You don't need it to be scalable in the
> finished
>
> product, because that would be made of paper or cardboard, or something.
>
> Right?
>
>
> Well actually, we might need to try the file attaching already.
>
>
> The next thing I need to know about, is the clipart grid. Is it
> strictly
>
> lines, like the Inkscape grids I told you about? Or is it sort of
> stylized,
>
> like maybe to give it a 3D appearance, or look metallic or wooden, or
>
> something like that?
>
>
> The reason I'm asking, is because of the requirement that it be
> scalable.
>
> To be scalable without distortion (as a raster image would be) it will
> need
>
> to be vector. Well, unless it already is vector? "Clipart" usually
> refers
>
> to a raster format, but not always.
>
>
> If it's simply lines, it would be easy to trace "manually" using the
>
> Pen/Bezier tool. Although if it's simply lines, you should be able to
> use
>
> one of the several kinds of grids that can be drawn with Inkscape
> extensions
>
> or LPE.
>
>
> However, if the grid image is stylized, so that it looks 3D or wooden,
> or
>
> whatever, that will make things much more complicated. Inkscape has a
> tool
>
> in the Path menu > Trace Bitmap, which can convert the image to vector.
>
> However, it's not capable of precisely reproducing any image. If it's a
>
> very complex image, it's doubtful the result will look exactly like the
>
> image (or in some cases, hardly at all like it). So if it's stylized,
> we
>
> can save a lot of potential headaches if I can see it first.
>
>
> I'd say go ahead and try attaching it to your email reply. If it works,
> we
>
> can just keep on. If not, click on my username, to go to my Lp profile.
>
> There, there's a link that says "Contact this user". I'm pretty sure
> that
>
> will send me a private email. And be sure to give me your address.
>
>
> brynn
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Don Tatum" <email address hidden>
>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:02 AM
>
> To: <email address hidden>
>
> Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer
>
>
>> Question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
>
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
>>
>
>> Don Tatum gave more information on the question:
>
>> Hi Brynn,
>
>>
>
>> I'm back from 'vacation' (taking an accreditation course all week).
> To
>
>> answer your questions, no, the end product will not be used on a
> webpage
>
>> (something I hadn't even thought of). I'm not sure by what you mean
> by
>
>> "scripting". The end product will be used in a game, but a board
> game,
>
>> not an online or computer game. The end product will be a hard copy
> map
>
>> printed on large paper at some place like Kinko's.
>
>>
>
>> Thank you for insightful assistance and keep asking questions as
> needed.
>
>> I don't need an elegant fix, just a fix :-)
>
>>
>
>> Don Tatum
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> With the D.C. Free Summer Meals Program
> <http://onecityyouth.dc.gov/page
>
>> /featured-programs>, kids and teens eat for free at schools, parks,
>
>> libraries and community organizations all summer long! Call 211, text
>
>> FOOD to (202) 656-5EAT or visit www.onecityyouth.dc.gov
>
>> <http://www.onecityyouth.dc.gov> to find a site near you.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf
> Of
>
>> Brynn
>
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 6:02 PM
>
>> To: Tatum, Donald (DCRA)
>
>> Subject: Re: [Question #250469]: How to add clip-art as a layer
>
>>
>
>> Your question #250469 on Inkscape changed:
>
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape/+question/250469
>
>>
>
>> Brynn posted a new comment:
>
>> Oh, I think I understand. No it's not that important to me. We can
>
>> just work via email. And I've missed you by now. So I should say
> this,
>
>> for when you get back.
>
>>
>
>> I want to make sure you understand that the problem you've presented
> may
>
>> be solved, probably or at least theoretically, in a few different
> ways.
>
>> Whatever way I think of may not be necessarily the best way. And
> others
>
>> in the forum may know a better way. It sounds like your project may
>
>> evolve, as we explore options, which makes "keeping options open" more
>
>> important.
>
>>
>
>> While I have almost 8 years experience with Inkscape, and my knowledge
>
>> is very strong on the basics, and strong on intermediate skills, I'm
>
>> pretty weak on advanced skills. And while I could probably get you
>
>> where you want to be with my set of skills, there are members....I
>
>> should say members at InkscapeForum.com, who have much more advanced
>
>> knowledge than me, and may have a much more elegant solution.
>
>>
>
>> So I'm still happy to help you out with this, and look forward to the
>
>> solving this very interesting problem. But in the end, you still may
>
>> want to know if there are other approaches, which would be found at
>
>> InkscapeForum.com.
>
>>
>
>> For example, the 1st question I would ask, before we get started, is
> do
>
>> you need this functionality on a webpage? Or does functionality where
>
>> the grid can be resized and moved relative to the map, need to happen
>
>> only in Inkscape? If it needs to be on a webpage.....I will very much
>
>> be inching my way, and learning as I go, and still might not get
> there.
>
>> While I know there are members at IF who already know how to do it.
>
>>
>
>> Also, if you need to put any scripting into it, or somehow automate
> this
>
>> functionality, I also won't be much help. For example, is it going to
>
>> be part of a game?
>
>>
>
>> Well ok then, I'll wait for your msg in a week or so, and we'll go
> from
>
>> there :-)
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> You received this question notification because you asked the
> question.
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>>
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