All attempts at scanning produce lossy images with jpeg like blocks.

Asked by Oliver Kerr

On Ubuntu 12.04
Using HP Officejet 8500A

Output from hp-check -t (hp-check -r produces no errors)

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2)
Dependency/Version Check Utility ver. 14.3

Copyright (c) 2011-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Note: hp-check can be run in three modes:
1. Compile-time check mode (-c or --compile): Use this mode before compiling the
HPLIP supplied tarball (.tar.gz or .run) to determine if the proper dependencies
are installed to successfully compile HPLIP.
2. Run-time check mode (-r or --run): Use this mode to determine if a distro
supplied package (.deb, .rpm, etc) or an already built HPLIP supplied tarball
has the proper dependencies installed to successfully run.
3. Both compile- and run-time check mode (-b or --both) (Default): This mode
will check both of the above cases (both compile- and run-time dependencies).

Saving output in log file: hp-check.log

Initializing. Please wait...

---------------
| SYSTEM INFO |
---------------

Basic system information:
Linux Oliver-laptop 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Distribution:
ubuntu 12.04

Checking Python version...
OK, version 2.7.3 installed

Checking PyQt 4.x version...
OK, version 4.9.1 installed.

Checking for CUPS...
Status: scheduler is running
Version: 1.5.3
error_log is set to level: warn

Checking for dbus/python-dbus...
dbus daemon is running.
python-dbus version: 1.0.0

------------------------------------
| COMPILE AND RUNTIME DEPENDENCIES |
------------------------------------

note: To check for compile-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -c parameter (ie, hp-check -c).
note: To check for run-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -r parameter (ie, hp-check -r).

Checking for dependency: CUPS - Common Unix Printing System...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: CUPS devel- Common Unix Printing System development files...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: CUPS image - CUPS image development files...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: DBus - Message bus system...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: GhostScript - PostScript and PDF language interpreter and previewer...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libjpeg - JPEG library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libpthread - POSIX threads library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libtool - Library building support services...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libusb - USB library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of programs...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PIL - Python Imaging Library (required for commandline scanning with hp-scan)...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PolicyKit - Administrative policy framework...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PyQt 4 DBus - DBus Support for PyQt4...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python DBus - Python bindings for DBus...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python devel - Python development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: Python libnotify - Python bindings for the libnotify Desktop notifications...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python XML libraries...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python 2.3 or greater - Required for fax functionality...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python 2.2 or greater - Python programming language...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Reportlab - PDF library for Python...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: scanimage - Shell scanning program...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: xsane - Graphical scanner frontend for SANE...
OK, found.

----------------------
| HPLIP INSTALLATION |
----------------------

Currently installed HPLIP version...
HPLIP 3.12.2 currently installed in '/usr/share/hplip'.

Current contents of '/etc/hp/hplip.conf' file:
# hplip.conf. Generated from hplip.conf.in by configure.

[hplip]
version=3.12.2

[dirs]
home=/usr/share/hplip
run=/var/run
ppd=/usr/share/ppd/hplip/HP
ppdbase=/usr/share/ppd/hplip
doc=/usr/share/doc/hplip-doc/HTML
icon=no
cupsbackend=/usr/lib/cups/backend
cupsfilter=/usr/lib/cups/filter
drv=/usr/share/cups/drv

# Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed.
[configure]
network-build=yes
pp-build=yes
gui-build=yes
scanner-build=yes
fax-build=yes
dbus-build=yes
cups11-build=no
doc-build=yes
shadow-build=no
hpijs-install=yes
foomatic-drv-install=yes
foomatic-ppd-install=yes
foomatic-rip-hplip-install=no
hpcups-install=yes
cups-drv-install=yes
cups-ppd-install=no
internal-tag=3.12.2
restricted-build=no
ui-toolkit=qt4
qt3=no
qt4=yes
policy-kit=yes
hpijs-only-build=no
lite-build=no
udev-acl-rules=yes
hpcups-only-build=no
hpijs-only-build=no

Current contents of '/var/lib/hp/hplip.state' file:
# hplip.state - HPLIP runtime persistent variables.

[plugin]
installed=0
eula=0

Current contents of '~/.hplip/hplip.conf' file:
[last_used]
device_uri = "hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam"
printer_name =
working_dir = .

[settings]
systray_visible = 0
systray_messages = 0

[commands]
scan = /usr/bin/simple-scan %SANE_URI%

[refresh]
rate = 30
enable = false
type = 1

[polling]
enable = false
interval = 5
device_list =

[fax]
voice_phone =
email_address =

[installation]
date_time = 13/01/13 16:28:23
version = 3.12.2

--------------------------
| DISCOVERED USB DEVICES |
--------------------------

No devices found.

---------------------------------
| INSTALLED CUPS PRINTER QUEUES |
---------------------------------

HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910
--------------------------
Type: Printer
Device URI: hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam
PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910.ppd
PPD Description: HP Officejet Pro 8500 a910, hpcups 3.12.2
Printer status: printer HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910 is idle. enabled since Mon 17 Dec 2012 00:30:09 GMT
Communication status: Good

----------------------
| SANE CONFIGURATION |
----------------------

'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf'...
'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.d/hplip'...
OK, found. SANE backend 'hpaio' is properly set up.

Checking output of 'scanimage -L'...
device `hpaio:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam' is a Hewlett-Packard Officejet_Pro_8500_A910 all-in-one

---------------------
| PYTHON EXTENSIONS |
---------------------

Checking 'cupsext' CUPS extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'pcardext' Photocard extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'hpmudext' I/O extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'scanext' SANE scanning extension...
OK, found.

---------------
| USER GROUPS |
---------------

osk adm lp dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare

User member of group 'lp'. Enables print/ scan/ fax.
User member of group 'lpadmin'.

-----------
| SUMMARY |
-----------

error: 7 errors and/or warnings.

Please refer to the installation instructions at:
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html

Done.
osk@Oliver-laptop:~$ hp-check -t

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.2)
Dependency/Version Check Utility ver. 14.3

Copyright (c) 2011-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Note: hp-check can be run in three modes:
1. Compile-time check mode (-c or --compile): Use this mode before compiling the
HPLIP supplied tarball (.tar.gz or .run) to determine if the proper dependencies
are installed to successfully compile HPLIP.
2. Run-time check mode (-r or --run): Use this mode to determine if a distro
supplied package (.deb, .rpm, etc) or an already built HPLIP supplied tarball
has the proper dependencies installed to successfully run.
3. Both compile- and run-time check mode (-b or --both) (Default): This mode
will check both of the above cases (both compile- and run-time dependencies).

Saving output in log file: hp-check.log

Initializing. Please wait...

---------------
| SYSTEM INFO |
---------------

Basic system information:
Linux Oliver-laptop 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Distribution:
ubuntu 12.04

Checking Python version...
OK, version 2.7.3 installed

Checking PyQt 4.x version...
OK, version 4.9.1 installed.

Checking for CUPS...
Status: scheduler is running
Version: 1.5.3
error_log is set to level: warn

Checking for dbus/python-dbus...
dbus daemon is running.
python-dbus version: 1.0.0

------------------------------------
| COMPILE AND RUNTIME DEPENDENCIES |
------------------------------------

note: To check for compile-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -c parameter (ie, hp-check -c).
note: To check for run-time only dependencies, re-run hp-check with the -r parameter (ie, hp-check -r).

Checking for dependency: CUPS - Common Unix Printing System...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: CUPS devel- Common Unix Printing System development files...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: CUPS image - CUPS image development files...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: DBus - Message bus system...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: gcc - GNU Project C and C++ Compiler...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: GhostScript - PostScript and PDF language interpreter and previewer...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libcrypto - OpenSSL cryptographic library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libjpeg - JPEG library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libnetsnmp-devel - SNMP networking library development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libpthread - POSIX threads library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: libtool - Library building support services...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: libusb - USB library...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: make - GNU make utility to maintain groups of programs...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PIL - Python Imaging Library (required for commandline scanning with hp-scan)...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PolicyKit - Administrative policy framework...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: PyQt 4 DBus - DBus Support for PyQt4...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python DBus - Python bindings for DBus...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python devel - Python development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: Python libnotify - Python bindings for the libnotify Desktop notifications...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python XML libraries...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python 2.3 or greater - Required for fax functionality...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Python 2.2 or greater - Python programming language...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: Reportlab - PDF library for Python...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: SANE - Scanning library development files...
error: NOT FOUND! This is a REQUIRED/COMPILE TIME ONLY dependency. Please make sure that this dependency is installed before installing or running HPLIP.

Checking for dependency: scanimage - Shell scanning program...
OK, found.

Checking for dependency: xsane - Graphical scanner frontend for SANE...
OK, found.

----------------------
| HPLIP INSTALLATION |
----------------------

Currently installed HPLIP version...
HPLIP 3.12.2 currently installed in '/usr/share/hplip'.

Current contents of '/etc/hp/hplip.conf' file:
# hplip.conf. Generated from hplip.conf.in by configure.

[hplip]
version=3.12.2

[dirs]
home=/usr/share/hplip
run=/var/run
ppd=/usr/share/ppd/hplip/HP
ppdbase=/usr/share/ppd/hplip
doc=/usr/share/doc/hplip-doc/HTML
icon=no
cupsbackend=/usr/lib/cups/backend
cupsfilter=/usr/lib/cups/filter
drv=/usr/share/cups/drv

# Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed.
[configure]
network-build=yes
pp-build=yes
gui-build=yes
scanner-build=yes
fax-build=yes
dbus-build=yes
cups11-build=no
doc-build=yes
shadow-build=no
hpijs-install=yes
foomatic-drv-install=yes
foomatic-ppd-install=yes
foomatic-rip-hplip-install=no
hpcups-install=yes
cups-drv-install=yes
cups-ppd-install=no
internal-tag=3.12.2
restricted-build=no
ui-toolkit=qt4
qt3=no
qt4=yes
policy-kit=yes
hpijs-only-build=no
lite-build=no
udev-acl-rules=yes
hpcups-only-build=no
hpijs-only-build=no

Current contents of '/var/lib/hp/hplip.state' file:
# hplip.state - HPLIP runtime persistent variables.

[plugin]
installed=0
eula=0

Current contents of '~/.hplip/hplip.conf' file:
[last_used]
device_uri = "hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam"
printer_name =
working_dir = .

[settings]
systray_visible = 0
systray_messages = 0

[commands]
scan = /usr/bin/simple-scan %SANE_URI%

[refresh]
rate = 30
enable = false
type = 1

[polling]
enable = false
interval = 5
device_list =

[fax]
voice_phone =
email_address =

[installation]
date_time = 13/01/13 16:43:02
version = 3.12.2

--------------------------
| DISCOVERED USB DEVICES |
--------------------------

No devices found.

---------------------------------
| INSTALLED CUPS PRINTER QUEUES |
---------------------------------

HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910
--------------------------
Type: Printer
Device URI: hp:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam
PPD: /etc/cups/ppd/HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910.ppd
PPD Description: HP Officejet Pro 8500 a910, hpcups 3.12.2
Printer status: printer HP-Officejet-Pro-8500-A910 is idle. enabled since Mon 17 Dec 2012 00:30:09 GMT
Communication status: Good

----------------------
| SANE CONFIGURATION |
----------------------

'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.conf'...
'hpaio' in '/etc/sane.d/dll.d/hplip'...
OK, found. SANE backend 'hpaio' is properly set up.

Checking output of 'scanimage -L'...
device `hpaio:/net/Officejet_Pro_8500_A910?zc=HPOccam' is a Hewlett-Packard Officejet_Pro_8500_A910 all-in-one

---------------------
| PYTHON EXTENSIONS |
---------------------

Checking 'cupsext' CUPS extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'pcardext' Photocard extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'hpmudext' I/O extension...
OK, found.

Checking 'scanext' SANE scanning extension...
OK, found.

---------------
| USER GROUPS |
---------------

osk adm lp dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare

User member of group 'lp'. Enables print/ scan/ fax.
User member of group 'lpadmin'.

-----------
| SUMMARY |
-----------

error: 7 errors and/or warnings.

Please refer to the installation instructions at:
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html

Done.

Problem: every time I try to scan a photograph I get blocky images - like high compression jpeg images. This is using xsane, gimp, Simple Scan, and hp-scan. Adjusting compression quality levels, changing the format of the output files seems to have no effect on any of these. Have uninstalled and reinstalled xsane, HPLIP etc and still no change. Can't find any reference to this sort of behaviour on web.

Printer/scanner is connected over home network, not via USB. Printing fine. I get same behaviour from both laptop and desktop computers. Images available.

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Sanjay Kumar (sanjay-kumar14) said :
#1

Hi,

Thanks for reporting the issue in HPLIP. To help us understand and analyze the issue please follow following things.
=> Download and install the latest HPLIP release from
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html (automatic installer) or
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/index.html (manual installation, if automatic installer does not work)

=> run "hp-check --fix" command in the terminal if manual installation is done

=> Reconfigure print queue with the commands in the terminal mentioned below.
       => system-config-printer (remove all print queues)
       => hp-setup (It should not be run in a root mode. This command is adding print queue, make sure you select ppd name having "-ps" or "hpcups" substring)
=>Try printing/sanning now.

Revision history for this message
Oliver Kerr (o-s-kerr) said :
#2

Sanjay,

Many thanks for the reply. Unfortunately the problem is still there. In theory the attached photo was scanned at a quality of 100 using xsane, but the blocky jpeg artifacts are still there.

Oliver
________________________________________
From: Sanjay Kumar [<email address hidden>]
Sent: 13 January 2013 18:01
To: Kerr, Oliver
Subject: Re: [Question #219080]: All attempts at scanning produce lossy images with jpeg like blocks.

Your question #219080 on HPLIP changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080

    Status: Open => Answered

Sanjay Kumar proposed the following answer:
Hi,

Thanks for reporting the issue in HPLIP. To help us understand and analyze the issue please follow following things.
=> Download and install the latest HPLIP release from
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html (automatic installer) or
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/index.html (manual installation, if automatic installer does not work)

=> run "hp-check --fix" command in the terminal if manual installation
is done

=> Reconfigure print queue with the commands in the terminal mentioned below.
       => system-config-printer (remove all print queues)
       => hp-setup (It should not be run in a root mode. This command is adding print queue, make sure you select ppd name having "-ps" or "hpcups" substring)
=>Try printing/sanning now.

--
If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
know that it is solved:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080/+confirm?answer_id=0

If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
following page to enter your feedback:
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Oliver Kerr (o-s-kerr) said :
#3

Are there any more tests I can do that may help?

The attched version is as it came from xsane (I cropped the previous version with Gimp). When is check it using the command

identify -verbose hpscan008.jpg

I get

Image: hpscan008.jpg
  Format: JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group JFIF format)
  Class: DirectClass
  Geometry: 1293x1841+0+0
  Resolution: 300x300
  Print size: 4.31x6.13667
  Units: PixelsPerInch

......

 Compose: Over
  Page geometry: 1293x1841+0+0
  Dispose: Undefined
  Iterations: 0
  Compression: JPEG
  Quality: 100
  Orientation: Undefined
  Properties:
    date:create: 2013-01-13T22:51:29+00:00
    date:modify: 2013-01-13T22:51:29+00:00
..........

So it looks like it thinks the quality level is set to 100, even if it clearly isn't.

Oliver

________________________________________
From: Oliver Kerr [<email address hidden>]
Sent: 13 January 2013 20:20
To: Kerr, Oliver
Subject: Re: [Question #219080]: All attempts at scanning produce lossy images with jpeg like blocks.

Your question #219080 on HPLIP changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080

    Status: Answered => Open

You are still having a problem:
Sanjay,

Many thanks for the reply. Unfortunately the problem is still there. In
theory the attached photo was scanned at a quality of 100 using xsane,
but the blocky jpeg artifacts are still there.

Oliver
________________________________________
From: Sanjay Kumar [<email address hidden>]
Sent: 13 January 2013 18:01
To: Kerr, Oliver
Subject: Re: [Question #219080]: All attempts at scanning produce lossy images with jpeg like blocks.

Your question #219080 on HPLIP changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080

    Status: Open => Answered

Sanjay Kumar proposed the following answer:
Hi,

Thanks for reporting the issue in HPLIP. To help us understand and analyze the issue please follow following things.
=> Download and install the latest HPLIP release from
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html (automatic installer) or
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/index.html (manual installation, if automatic installer does not work)

=> run "hp-check --fix" command in the terminal if manual installation
is done

=> Reconfigure print queue with the commands in the terminal mentioned below.
       => system-config-printer (remove all print queues)
       => hp-setup (It should not be run in a root mode. This command is adding print queue, make sure you select ppd name having "-ps" or "hpcups" substring)
=>Try printing/sanning now.

--
If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
know that it is solved:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080/+confirm?answer_id=0

If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
following page to enter your feedback:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080

You received this question notification because you asked the question.

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Sanjay Kumar (sanjay-kumar14) said :
#4

Hi,

Assuming hplip-3.12.11 is installed after following all instructions in my first post, can you send me the log files by following below instructions.

$su -c "hp-logcapture"

**Please use "Create a bug report" to attach the logs as "Ask a Question" does not provide the file attachment option

Revision history for this message
Oliver Kerr (o-s-kerr) said :
#5

Sanjay,

I have done this.

Thanks.

Oliver
________________________________________
From: Sanjay Kumar [<email address hidden>]
Sent: 14 January 2013 06:01
To: Kerr, Oliver
Subject: Re: [Question #219080]: All attempts at scanning produce lossy images with jpeg like blocks.

Your question #219080 on HPLIP changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080

    Status: Open => Answered

Sanjay Kumar proposed the following answer:
Hi,

Assuming hplip-3.12.11 is installed after following all instructions in
my first post, can you send me the log files by following below
instructions.

$su -c "hp-logcapture"

**Please use "Create a bug report" to attach the logs as "Ask a
Question" does not provide the file attachment option

--
If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
know that it is solved:
https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/219080/+confirm?answer_id=3

If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
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Sarbeswar Meher (sarbeswar-meher) said :
#6

Scan Compression is not handled in HPLIP. It is part of the application which does the compression. As you're using xsane to scan, so the issue remains with xsane. You can create a bug in xsane.

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