Zim

Using Zim remotely (no SSH access) ?

Asked by mark

I am desperate - I am also neither a Linux techie nor a coder...but I do seriously adore Zim !!!
Zim has been my favorite program for aiding my aging memory in remembering things for some time now, but:
Carrying it around on a stick gave me problems because I also have it on my desktop at home & at work...because I would forget to bring the USB stick with me and/or where I'd set it down.

I have hosting, my own domain - but not SSH access there.

So I had this crazy idea (which I lack the skill to make, of course !):
Is there a method, version or installer for Zim so it can be fully used from hosted space, via browser as a web-app ?

I do not mean exporting HTML files to a site - I mean fully; and as it is a Linux app, and my hosted space is a Linux server...
Since that is so, why can't it run fully/remotely as a web-based app from a web-server ?

I will HUGELY appreciate any help, pointers, or education you are willing to provide !!!
Thank you.

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Jaap Karssenberg (jaap.karssenberg) said :
#1

THis is not going to work, zim is a desktop application, not a web
application. There is a setup to install a server to view a "live" zim
notebook (generating HTML on the fly) but there is no way to edit from a
web page.

There is some discussion to add some function there, but it will not be the
same as the desktop application, not even close. Because HTML does not
allow to have the same user interaction as a desktop application.

What might work for you is put the notebook on the USB stick, and just edit
the files with whatever text editor you have available. When you are at
your fixed work station and open the notebook with zim, zim will detect any
changes you made and update the structure.

-- Jaap

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:55 AM, mark
<email address hidden>wrote:

> New question #187993 on Zim:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/zim/+question/187993
>
> I am desperate - I am also neither a Linux techie nor a coder...but I do
> seriously adore Zim !!!
> Zim has been my favorite program for aiding my aging memory in remembering
> things for some time now, but:
> Carrying it around on a stick gave me problems because I also have it on
> my desktop at home & at work...because I would forget to bring the USB
> stick with me and/or where I'd set it down.
>
> I have hosting, my own domain - but not SSL access there.
>
> So I had this crazy idea (which I lack the skill to make, of course !):
> Is there a method, version or installer for Zim so it can be fully used
> from hosted space, via browser as a web-app ?
>
> I do not mean exporting HTML files to a site - I mean fully; and as it is
> a Linux app, and my hosted space is a Linux server...
> Since that is so, why can't it run fully/remotely as a web-based app from
> a web-server ?
>
> I will HUGELY appreciate any help, pointers, or education you are willing
> to provide !!!
> Thank you.
>
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> contact for Zim.
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Michael Nagel (nailor) said :
#2

No, it will not be possible to operate zim as an interactive web application.

You might achieve some of your underlying goals (I don't really know what you really need/want) by just synchronizing the files with the wiki pages Zim operates on (using e.g. dropbox, ftp, rsync, bazaar or git) or by executing zim remotely via X11 forwarding over ssh.

Best Regards

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mark (smallhagrid) said :
#3

One error in my question: I put 'no SSL' when I meant 'no SSH'.
I have used WebDAV mapping for the notebook with Zim locally - that works - but is hideously slow and somewhat temperamental.

Even if sometime, some branch of Zim becomes web-enabled with anyplace near full functionality, it'll be light-years ahead of anything else - because there is NOTHING at the present time which is web-enabled that does what Zim does (believe me, I've looked - and it's a dead end.).

The next closest thing is Dokuwiki - and likely if I beat on it long enough (maybe) I can make it look/work ~somewhat~ like Zim...but it'll never BE as good, welcome & well-liked as the REAL Zim !!!
Joomla has a zillion extensions, but I found no way to mold it to my needs either.

The true beauty of Zim (as well as Dokuwiki) is that one can simply place their collection of TXT files in the folder structure and -POOF!-, instant content per the users wishes.
This is a wonderful ability for someone like myself that has a huge collection of info in TXT files.

Thanks.

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