How to set coefficient of rolling friction

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Hello,
According to Rodaina Aboul Hosn(2017)[1],we can introduce rolling resistance by the rolling stiffness and coefficient of rolling friction.According [2],I use Law2_ScGeom6D_CohFrictPhys_CohesionMoment().I find the rolling stiffness alphaKr[3], but I don't find the coefficient of rolling friction.How can I set coefficient of rolling friction?

In addition, rolling stiffnesses are proportional to the shear stiffness through dimensionless factors alphaKr[3]. I think the shear stiffness is calculated using Young's modulus,right?

Thanks for your any suggestion.

[1]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10035-016-0687-0
[2]https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/202803
[3]https://yade-dev.gitlab.io/trunk/yade.wrapper.html?highlight=cohfrictmat#yade.wrapper.CohFrictMat.alphaKr

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Best Luc Sibille (luc-sibille) said :
#1

Hello,

Here is the rolling friction coefficient:
etaRoll

Yes the shear stiffness is calculated using the parameter
young
which actually not a Young modulus, but a stiffness modulus of the
particles.

Finally you can find a new paper about theses questions in the
continuity of the one from Aboul Hosn et al, here [1]

Best,
Luc

[1] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/nag.2911
or
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-02059431/document

Le 21/10/2019 à 14:17, Chu a écrit :
> New question #685303 on Yade:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/685303
>
> Hello,
> According to Rodaina Aboul Hosn(2017)[1],we can introduce rolling resistance by the rolling stiffness and coefficient of rolling friction.According [2],I use Law2_ScGeom6D_CohFrictPhys_CohesionMoment().I find the rolling stiffness alphaKr[3], but I don't find the coefficient of rolling friction.How can I set coefficient of rolling friction?
>
> In addition, rolling stiffnesses are proportional to the shear stiffness through dimensionless factors alphaKr[3]. I think the shear stiffness is calculated using Young's modulus,right?
>
> Thanks for your any suggestion.
>
> [1]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10035-016-0687-0
> [2]https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/202803
> [3]https://yade-dev.gitlab.io/trunk/yade.wrapper.html?highlight=cohfrictmat#yade.wrapper.CohFrictMat.alphaKr
>

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Bruno Chareyre (bruno-chareyre) said :
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Hi,
Rolling friction is listed just a couple lines below [3].

> I think the shear stiffness is calculated using Young's modulus,right?

Yes. Overall there is only one dimensional stiffness (Young), used to define normal stiffness, the others are defined relatively, by a set of dimensionless coefficients.

Bruno

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Chu (chu-1) said :
#3

Thanks Luc Sibille, that solved my question.

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Chu (chu-1) said :
#4

Thanks Bruno, that solved my question.

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manisharma (manisharma11211) said :
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Thanks for this information. It useful