[i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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xf86-video-intel |
In Progress
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Medium
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xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) |
Confirmed
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High
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Unassigned | ||
Bug Description
Binary package hint: xorg
After a do-release-upgrade -d from jaunty to karmic beta, I am getting "lock ups".
If I don't log in and just leave gdm idling, the machine doesn't freeze. If I switch to a virtual console and use that, no freeze. I can ssh in just fine and do all kinds of stuff with no lock ups. But once I log in via gdm, I can go <strike>about 5-10 minutes</strike> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: anywhere from a few minutes to 12 hours or so until the machine:
EDIT 26 Oct 2009: Please see comments for update on how the freezes behave!
1) <strike>stops responding to all mouse/keyboard input</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: In all freezes, the keyboard stops responding and mouse clicks do nothing. Recent freezes have left the mouse pointer movable, but some of the first freezes I saw left the mouse pointer immovable.
2) CapsLock will not toggle
3) <strike>sshing in doesn't work anymore</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: This may not be the case. The freezes occurring over the last couple of days have left ssh still operating.
4) alt+sysrq+reisub will cause a reboot, and the screen usually blanks after the 'i' is put in to send SIGKILL to all processes.
I have the 82845G graphics chipset, and i915 is shown in the output of lsmod. As the problem only occurs when I'm in X, and as it doesn't matter whether I'm in GNOME or a failsafe xterm session, I suspect the graphics driver.
EDIT 22 Oct 2009: I'm working through the X freeze troubleshooting tips at https:/
ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
CurrentDmesg:
[ 18.816154] e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
[ 18.816928] ADDRCONF(
[ 29.376013] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 59.736386] uart_close: bad serial port count; tty->count is 1, state->count is 0
Date: Tue Oct 20 23:29:42 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
Lsusb:
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Package: xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=
ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSign
RelatedPackageV
xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
xserver-
xserver-
SourcePackage: xorg
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-14-generic i686
XorgConf:
dmi.bios.date: 11/15/2002
dmi.bios.vendor: Intel Corp.
dmi.bios.version: RG84510A.
dmi.board.name: D845GEBV2
dmi.board.vendor: Intel Corporation
dmi.board.version: AAA97677-106
dmi.chassis.type: 2
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnIntelCor
fglrx: Not loaded
system:
distro: Ubuntu
architecture: i686kernel: 2.6.31-14-generic
[lspci]
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:5247]
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #1 |
- BootDmesg.txt Edit (32.2 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- Dependencies.txt Edit (5.0 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- Lspci.txt Edit (7.5 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- PciDisplay.txt Edit (657 bytes, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- ProcCpuinfo.txt Edit (474 bytes, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- ProcInterrupts.txt Edit (1.2 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- ProcModules.txt Edit (2.0 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- UdevDb.txt Edit (74.1 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- UdevLog.txt Edit (92.5 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- XorgLog.txt Edit (39.4 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- XorgLogOld.txt Edit (39.8 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- Xrandr.txt Edit (3.8 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- glxinfo.txt Edit (15.9 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- monitors.xml.txt Edit (510 bytes, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- setxkbmap.txt Edit (233 bytes, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- xdpyinfo.txt Edit (18.8 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
- xkbcomp.txt Edit (53.8 KiB, text/plain; charset="utf-8")
affects: | xorg (Ubuntu) → xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) |
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
status: | New → Confirmed |
description: | updated |
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #2 |
description: | updated |
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #3 |
- dri_debug-20091026.tgz Edit (295.0 KiB, application/x-tar)
Second tarball of debugging information collected as directed by https:/
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #4 |
Now that I've seen this a bunch of times, I can confirm:
- ssh always continues to work! I must have made a mistake early on when I thought it didn't.
- freezes occur in GNOME, GNOME safe mode, xterm sessions, and even once at the gdm login prompt (but this was after a GNOME session and a logout).
Also, sometimes I seem to be able to induce the freeze by switching between virtual terminals and X with ctrl-alt-F?, but not always.
Please let me know if any more information or investigation would be useful. This is a high-priority bug for me as it makes my main machine unusable.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #5 |
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #6 |
Created an attachment (id=30853)
Batchbuffer dump from 20091029
Forwarding a bug report from ubuntu user Adam J. Lincoln:
https:/
[Problem]
On 845G X freezes a few minutes after log in, but does not freeze if left without logging in.
[Original report]
After a do-release-upgrade -d from jaunty to karmic beta, I am getting "lock ups".
If I don't log in and just leave gdm idling, the machine doesn't freeze. If I switch to a virtual console and use that, no freeze. I can ssh in just fine and do all kinds of stuff with no lock ups. But once I log in via gdm, I can go <strike>about 5-10 minutes</strike> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: anywhere from a few minutes to 12 hours or so until the machine:
EDIT 26 Oct 2009: Please see comments for update on how the freezes behave!
1) <strike>stops responding to all mouse/keyboard input</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: In all freezes, the keyboard stops responding and mouse clicks do nothing. Recent freezes have left the mouse pointer movable, but some of the first freezes I saw left the mouse pointer immovable.
2) CapsLock will not toggle
3) <strike>sshing in doesn't work anymore</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: This may not be the case. The freezes occurring over the last couple of days have left ssh still operating.
4) alt+sysrq+reisub will cause a reboot, and the screen usually blanks after the 'i' is put in to send SIGKILL to all processes.
I have the 82845G graphics chipset, and i915 is shown in the output of lsmod. As the problem only occurs when I'm in X, and as it doesn't matter whether I'm in GNOME or a failsafe xterm session, I suspect the graphics driver.
EDIT 22 Oct 2009: I'm working through the X freeze troubleshooting tips at https:/
ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
CurrentDmesg:
[ 18.816154] e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
[ 18.816928] ADDRCONF(
[ 29.376013] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 59.736386] uart_close: bad serial port count; tty->count is 1, state->count is 0
Date: Tue Oct 20 23:29:42 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
Lsusb:
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Package: xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=
ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSign
RelatedPackageV
xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
xserver-
xserver-
SourcePackage: xorg
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-14-generic i686
XorgConf:
dmi.bios.date: 11/15/2002
dmi.bios.vendor: Intel Corp.
dmi.bios.version: RG84510A.
dmi.board.name: D845GEBV2
dmi.board.vendor: Intel Corporation
dmi.board.version: AAA97677-106
dmi.chassis.ty...
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #7 |
Created an attachment (id=30854)
Batchbuffer dump from 20091026
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #8 |
Created an attachment (id=30855)
Batchbuffer dump from 20091024
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #9 |
Created an attachment (id=30856)
BootDmesg.txt
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #10 |
Created an attachment (id=30857)
Lspci.txt
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #11 |
Created an attachment (id=30858)
XorgLog.txt
tags: | added: freeze karmic |
tags: | added: 845g |
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Confirmed → Triaged |
importance: | Undecided → High |
summary: |
- Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in + [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in |
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel: | |
status: | Unknown → Confirmed |
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #12 |
Adam, thanks for doing a good job at documenting these freezes.
I have forwarded this bug upstream to the intel developers at https:/
There are a few things you can do right away to narrow down the cause a bit further. Try to turn off Desktop Effects and see if the freezes still happens then. If it does, the cause is not in the compositing stuff. Another option is to turn off KMS by using nomodeset at the boot command line (Esc to bring up the Grub menu at boot if you don't have it already, 'e' to edit the command line, add 'nomodeset' right after 'quiet' and 'splash'). Finally, you can check if the problem exists in the latest upstream versions by (separately and together) testing with xorg-edgers (https:/
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #13 |
I'm the original reporter via launchpad.
I did have one freeze at the gdm login screen, but it was after logging in to GNOME and logging out, and it occured when switching back to X from a virtual terminal.
This contradicts my original report which claimed that I never got a freeze at the gdm login, so thought I should mention it here.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Bzipitidoo-yahoo (bzipitidoo-yahoo) wrote : | #14 |
Created an attachment (id=30968)
Xorg log
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Bzipitidoo-yahoo (bzipitidoo-yahoo) wrote : | #15 |
(From update of attachment 30968)
I have the same problem on an old PC with the 845G chipset. Everything works at first but then it all locks up except that the mouse pointer still moves.
Arch Linux, kernel 2.6.31-ARCH (apparently 2.6.31.5-1, according to Arch's package info), Xorg 1.7.1, Intel module 2.9.1. So I suppose I must have the patches mentioned in bug 23082.
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel: | |
status: | Confirmed → In Progress |
MatchkeY (matchkey) wrote : | #16 |
I have this identical problem.
Will provide logs shortly.
AdrianC (adrian-crockett) wrote : | #17 |
I have encountered this same problem after recently upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 on an old Dell 2350 which has the same Intel 82845G graphics chipset. I have reloaded 9.04 and the system is then stable.
rickh57 (rickh57) wrote : | #18 |
I was seeing this lockup on my 9.10 system (an old Compaq Evo D510 computer). I followed the suggestion of Geir Ove Myhr to turn off KMS and the system has now been up for over 10 days without any issues.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #19 |
I tried passing nomodeset to the kernel on boot to disable KMS, but still get identical freezes. I will post a tarball of debugging info as soon as I can. (Desktop effects have been off the whole time I've seen this bug.)
Interestingly, while 1280x1024 resolution is not available anymore (and was available under jaunty!), it becomes available if I pass nomodeset to the kernel. Same freezes, though.
I also tried the xorg-edgers ppa with both the stock karmic kernel and with the newest mainline kernel from kernel-ppa. With xorg-edgers and the stock karmic kernel, I get identical freezes. With the newest mainline kernel from kernel-ppa and xorg-edgers, I get a freeze that behaves somewhat differently and seems to happen more frequently - plus there are i915 errors printed on the first virtual console about rendering errors with this kernel/xorg combination. If I have a chance I can submit tarballs of debugging info for all combinations of kernel/xorg I've tried, but I'm unsure that it's the same bug.
I am open to any other advice or debugging techniques no matter how off-the-wall.
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #20 |
Adam, there code that decides the resolution is different with KMS (it is in the kernel) than with UMS (nomodeset, it is in the -intel driver). There have been a number of problems with this, and many have been solved in the new kernel (2.6.32). But let's focus on the freezes here.
On some similar freezes on i855 it was suggested to use xorg-edgers and an option to flush the debug cache in order to get better batchbuffer dumps. See bug 447892, comment 23. Unlike Albert Damen I do not know how to read batchbuffer dumps, but I can imagine that it would be easier for the developers to make sense of it with that option on.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #21 |
Does anyone know which component can be reverted to avoid this problem (kernel, mesa, xf86-video-intel)? I'm going to be helping someone with i845 freezes, and I'll bisect if doing so turns out to be practical. But first it'd be helpful to know which component to start on.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Carl Worth (cworth) wrote : | #22 |
(In reply to comment #9)
> Does anyone know which component can be reverted to avoid this problem (kernel,
> mesa, xf86-video-intel)? I'm going to be helping someone with i845 freezes, and
> I'll bisect if doing so turns out to be practical. But first it'd be helpful to
> know which component to start on.
I'm not certain of components that can be reverted to avoid the problem,
but here are some ideas:
It's usually not too hard to avoid running any 3D software, (just don't
run a 3D compositing manager like compiz (sometimes known as "desktop
effects or so in the configuration), and obviously don't run any 3D
games or what have you). If you still have problems that way, then
you don't need to worry about mesa.
That still leaves xf86-video-intel and the kernel. But just because you
can revert one and see the problem go away, doesn't necessarily mean that
you'll get a bisect down to a bug commit. For example, you might bisect
xf86-video-intel down to a commit of "start using the kernel driver for
feature <foo>".
So that's something to look out for.
But we definitely appreciate your willingness to investigate, and look forwar
to whatever further information you can provide.
-Carl
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #23 |
This affects me too - I am using a Foxconn R10-S1 Ultra Small Form Factor Intel Atom (230) Intel 945GC+ICH7 Mini-ITX machine.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #24 |
The problem is in the kernel somewhere between 2.6.30 and 2.6.31-rc3. I can reproduce the freeze with both Karmic's Xorg driver (based on 2.9.0) and Jaunty's (2.6.3) with 2.6.31-rc3 and the system won't freeze with either Xorg driver on 2.6.30.
I'm using the mainline kernel builds at http://
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #25 |
The problem definitely appears before 2.6.31-rc1. I suspected I made a mistake at one point and started over with a bisect limited to drivers/gpu and include/drm. The following will reproduce what I have at this point:
git bisect start 517d0869 v2.6.30 f2cb5d8 -- drivers/gpu/ include/drm/
Maybe 4410f3 (fbdev: add support for handoff from firmware to hw framebuffers) is the bad commit... The others don't appear to make any hardware specific changes. When I resume bisecting, I'll check that commit and its parent.
Francisco Villalobos (belhor) wrote : | #26 |
I have a similar problem randomly on Intel 945GM.
jdobry (jdobry) wrote : | #27 |
Similar problem on Panasonic CF-W2 - Intel 855 graphic.
But after downgrade to Janunty 2.4 backported drivers (yes use Jaunty 2.4 driver in Karmic) It works.
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #28 |
Same problem with Lucid alpha 1.
Kevin-Acer (kehlerk) wrote : | #29 |
Similar problem here. Is this bug different than Bug #466310? Seems pretty similar to me. Either way, it'd be nice to get this resolved. I have a Dell Inspiron 1100 with Intel 82845 G and my kernel is 2.6.31-16-generic. I don't use compiz special effects. Something I've been wondering about, when people mention resolution settings, xorg.conf edits, or hardware device settings, I can't change any resolution (it's all blank), and my xorg.conf file is blank as well, and for hardware devices, my system says no proprietary drivers are in use. Is that an indication of anything?
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #30 |
> Maybe 4410f3 (fbdev: add support for handoff from firmware to hw framebuffers)
> is the bad commit... The others don't appear to make any hardware specific
> changes. When I resume bisecting, I'll check that commit and its parent.
Brian, thank you for bisecting this far. Did you get any chance to identify the bad commit?
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #31 |
I have it narrowed down a bit farther now, to the range 03347e2..02200d0. I'll have a chance to finish the job and double-check it in two or three days (it's not my own machine).
But I already highly suspect commit 02200d0 will be the identified commit, because it looks a commit that would be enabling something. Maybe drm doesn't work before this commit in Karmic? The kernels that didn't hang also seemed rather slow with graphics.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #32 |
Thank you for narrowing it down this far. I will see if I can build a "good" and a "bad" ubuntu kernel once it has been narrowed down, so that others with similar problems may test. I don't know exactly how to do this yet, but I'll try and find out.
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #33 |
I have compiled three Ubuntu Jaunty kernel packages based on Brian Rogers' findings upstream at made them available at http://
In order to test the kernels, it is enough to download the linux-image*.deb packages. (the linux-headers packages are not necessary for testing). They install side-by-side with the each other and the other packages on your system, so you can download all three to a folder and do an `dpkg -i linux-image*.deb`. You can then choose which kernel to test in the Grub boot menu. When you are done testing you may remove the test kernels with `dpkg -P linux-image-
I may set up a wiki page for reporting test results, but for now feel free to report the results in a comment here.
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #34 |
1. Running the installer in "Safe graphics mode" seems not only to run the installer in safe graphics mode, but also to install either karmic or lucid alpha in a safe graphics mode in which the freezes don't occur. Some packages, like Gnometris (Quatropassel in Luicd) behave strangely in safe graphics mode, to an extent that makes them unuseable. Other are hardly affected.
2. Anyone know of a way, with Karmic or Luicid, to invoke safe graphics mode on bootup of an installed system so that the system is live long enough to do the kernal testing suggested by Geir?
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #35 |
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Mark Ellse wrote:
> 1. Running the installer in "Safe graphics mode" seems not only to run
> the installer in safe graphics mode, but also to install either karmic
> or lucid alpha in a safe graphics mode in which the freezes don't occur.
> Some packages, like Gnometris (Quatropassel in Luicd) behave strangely
> in safe graphics mode, to an extent that makes them unuseable. Other are
> hardly affected.
You can use the alternate CD to install, so that the installer doesn't
start X at all.
> 2. Anyone know of a way, with Karmic or Luicid, to invoke safe graphics
> mode on bootup of an installed system so that the system is live long
> enough to do the kernal testing suggested by Geir?
You can boot into recovery mode from the Grub boot menu. If you
already have downloaded the files you can choose root shell from the
recovery menu. If you need to download them, you may choose netroot
(but then you may need ethernet instead of wireless).
The easiest way to test is probably to use Jaunty. It should not have
these freeze problems with the standard kernel. You can then install
the kernels without problems and then boot the test kernels to check
if the system freezes.
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #36 |
Done the testing suggested by Geir. All done on Lucid, but I guess the same is true for Karmic.
2.6.30-freezetest1 works
2.6.30-freezetest9 freezes
2.6.30-freezetest8 works
For those who wish to test, here is what to do.
When your machine is booting, press ESC a single time early during bootup to get the GRUB boot menu. (When to press ESC needs a bit of experiment because both Karmic and Lucid are designed to boot fast, not to spend time waiting for key presses.)
When you get the boot menue, choose recovery mode and select a shell with networking
Download files from shell. I used:
'wget http://
This downloads an index file with the file names on there.
Then, for each file, download them. Here is an example of one.
'wget www.kvante.
You have to do each file individually; wildcards are not allowed with http downloads.
Then:
`dpkg -i linux-image*.deb`.
I got some funny messages, which didn't seem to matter.
(Hmm. There is a symbolic link /lib/modules/
However, I can not read it: No such file or directory
Therefore I am deleting /lib/modules/
Then boot your computer and choose which kernel to test in the Grub boot menu - see Geir's instructions above. (Remember, you need to get the Grub boot menu by pressing ESC early during the bootup as above.)
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #37 |
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Mark Ellse wrote:
> Done the testing suggested by Geir. All done on Lucid, but I guess the same is true for Karmic.
> 2.6.30-freezetest1 works
> 2.6.30-freezetest9 freezes
> 2.6.30-freezetest8 works
Great! That's the first confirmation that the commit that Brian Rogers
suspected was indeed the one.
Thanks for the detailed explanation of how to test.
Geir Ove
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #38 |
I have built three ubuntu kernel packages and asked for testing downstream. So far I have two confirmations that 02200d0 is the commit that triggers this bug (and none to the contrary).
The kernel packages are available at http://
* linux-image-
* linux-image-
* linux-image-
Two people have confirmed that the two first work without freezes and that the last one freezes (but not yet the original reporter from whom the batchbuffer dumps attached here come).
I also asked some people with 855GM freezes (fdo bug 24789) to test the kernels to check if the same applied to them, but they had different result, so the 845G and 855GM problems are not the same.
Kamalakar Agashe (kagashe) wrote : | #39 |
Done the testing suggested by Geir. Done on Karmic.
2.6.30-freezetest1 works
2.6.30-freezetest9 freezes
2.6.30-freezetest8 works
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #40 |
Geir, it seems clear where the problem is. Will you report that upstream? I've no idea how to do that, but if you give me instructions...
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #41 |
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Mark Ellse wrote:
> Geir, it seems clear where the problem is. Will you report that
> upstream?
I've already done that. Check the upstream bug report at
https:/
This does not mean that there is necessarily something wrong with that
commit. It may be that this commit enables a previously unused feature
in the driver and that this feature is buggy. In any case, it gives
upstream a very clear indication about where the problem is.
Kamalakar Agashe (kagashe) wrote : | #42 |
I would like to add some more information regarding this bug. If I use Ubuntu Karmic on IceWM it never freezes.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #43 |
I can confirm that the freezetest8 doesn't freeze.
Does anyone else testing this notice that their mouse cursor is no longer visible?
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #44 |
My mouse cursor was working with all kernel tests. When frozen, with freezetest9, it didn't move but was still there.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #45 |
The mouse cursor problem seems intermittent now, and may be unrelated.
One other thing I've noticed with freezetest8: firefox can sometimes cause a crash that suddenly kills my window manager (whether I'm in GNOME or something else, like stumpwm), and forces gdm to restart with no warning. It was reproduceable by going to the Web 2.0 unsubscription helper website suicidemachine.org (fwiw, with no flash plugin installed). This was obviously extremely annoying, and I wonder if anyone else has seen this.
For now, I'm running firefox in Xephyr, which seems to avoid this problem. I don't know that these are important to the bug at hand, but wanted to report it.
Still no X freezes, so that's good.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #46 |
I set up a PPA for Karmic that will roll libdrm and xserver-
https:/
It will be interesting if the older X driver works without problems on the newer kernel. I haven't had a chance to try this older driver on Karmic, so be prepared to undo it from the command line if it breaks X. Also, you may have to boot the kernel with nomodeset, I'm not sure.
If this old userspace stuff works without ever freezing in the new kernel, then a kernel change may not be at fault at all. In that case, I'll step my PPA forward one version at a time and we can find out when the problem first appeared in the X driver.
BTW, I wasn't able to build this old X driver for Lucid, but if we find this version works on Karmic and I start stepping forward to newer versions, I'll start supplying Lucid versions when I get to late enough versions that they build correctly.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #47 |
Also, yes Adam, I did see X crashing (not the window manager) during Firefox use on a system where I reverted to a kernel version that doesn't freeze. It makes running an older kernel not a viable workaround for this problem...
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #48 |
Looks like it's not the kernel. In the downstream bug, we found that the Jaunty versions of libdrm and the userspace Intel driver don't freeze, even under kernel 2.6.31.
That means the bad commit is in one of the following:
- in libdrm, between 2.4.5 and 2.4.14
- in xserver-
I don't think the freezing requires 3D, either, so it's probably the Intel driver (I guess DDX is the correct term here). I've got a PPA set up, where I'm going to try to bisect my way toward the first bad commit, or at least the first bad release.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #49 |
I've been using Brian's PPA for a few days now on karmic with the latest karmic kernel, 2.6.31-16-generic. I have seen no X freezes or crashes during normal use. Also, the horrifyingly slow graphics that was such a problem under jaunty is (at least mostly) gone, even though these are the jaunty drivers.
One thing - every time gdm tries to restart, I get a blank screen with no response. This includes any time I end an X session and want to get back to the gdm prompt screen, and even if I issue the INTEL_DEBUG line to restart gdm with debugging on as described in the intel X driver debugging info. I have not tried to ssh in and I don't remember whether NumLock will toggle once this blank screen comes up - I can report on this later. This problem isn't a dealbreaker, as in normal use I will rarely restart X, but it may prevent this becoming a recommended workaround.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #50 |
Thanks for the report. It appears the fact that old kernels prevented the freeze was just a red herring: without a recent kernel, the newer userspace driver couldn't enable some features related to the crash.
The real problem is probably in the Xorg driver. To narrow down when the problem appeared, I have updated my PPA with a slightly newer version. Could you try updating to the newer version, and report if that suffers from the freezing bug?
If we can pinpoint where the bug first appeared, that will go a long way toward solving it. I'll step forward every time I get word that the current version appears to be working fine. When we find the first bad version, I'll look at the changes between the two versions.
Oh, and for the sanity of anyone trying to read through this bug report, let's write what versions of libdrm2 and xserver-
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #51 |
The Xorg driver in Jaunty supports both EXA and UXA AccelMethods, and EXA was the default in Jaunty. Which one do you use for testing? In later versions, only UXA is supported, so that should be chosen for the testing as well.
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
assignee: | nobody → Lorenzo De Liso (blackz) |
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #52 |
Both versions of your PPA are stable on my Dell Inspiron 1100 intel 82845G
Karmic 2.6.31-16, libdem2 1:2.49-ubuntu2ba, x-server 3:2.7.0-1ubuntuba
But booting to black screen at about 50% of the time.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #53 |
Typo; libdrm2 1:2.49-ubuntu2ba
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #54 |
I was also able to verify that an i845 system is stable with:
libdrm 2.4.9
xserver-
I've now uploaded version 2.7.1 of the intel driver. It should be built and available within a hour.
Geir, thank you reminding me about the situation with EXA and UXA. I'll make sure to test UXA+KMS on the i845 I have access to, to make sure we didn't already pass the bad commit. I have a so far 100% reliable way to reproduce the freeze on that system (I run Bejeweled Twist under wine).
The next version to test after 2.7.1 (assuming 2.7.1 is good) will default to UXA if KMS is enabled, and I'll remind everyone at that time to re-enable KMS.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #55 |
2.7.1 is still stable with kernel 2.6.31-16.
Boot to working display is still hit and miss.
I'll stay at 2.6.31-16 until you update otherwise.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #56 |
OK, the next version is up. I had to patch it to get it to build against the final X Server release. If my patch isn't right, the driver will most likely crash on startup. If it starts correctly, I'm interested in the results both with and without KMS. If this version freezes, is it only with KMS, only without KMS, or either way?
Also, you can update your kernel if you want. That shouldn't affect this testing.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #57 |
Your 2.7.99.901+git20 is stable with or with out KMS.
Also, boots to main screen 95+ % of the time without KMS, and about 80% with.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #58 |
Confirmed. I had a chance to do the Bejeweled test with that version and it passed. The next version also passed: 2.7.99.
They worked with and without KMS. We're in pretty good shape here. This means the bug didn't exist since the beginning of UXA and there's a pretty good chance we'll be able to find the minimal change that introduced the problem.
I've uploaded 2.8.0 now. Now that we've confirmed the existence of stable UXA+KMS versions, non-KMS testing is no longer needed.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #59 |
Actually, I just saw there are no code changes between the git snapshot I tested and 2.8.0, so I'll bump us forward one more version for now, to 2.8.1.
Kamalakar Agashe (kagashe) wrote : | #60 |
Freezes.
Kernel 2.6.31-16-generic libdrm2 1:2.4.11-2+karmic xserver-
My machine:
lspci -nn | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #61 |
That's excellent news!
We've now identified a good and bad version with only a handful of code changes between them. At this point, we have just a few tests to go. I've now uploaded 2.8.0.901.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #62 |
4:2.8.0.901 is good.
libdrm2 1:2.4.11-2+karmic
Kernel 2.6.31-17-generic
Boot to desktop successful attempts, 98%.
Kamalakar Agashe (kagashe) wrote : | #63 |
Freezes for me.
libdrm2 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
Kernel 2.6.31-17-generic
Ky Weichel (kweichel) wrote : | #64 |
- xorg.conf with tiling disabled (among other settings) Edit (1.1 KiB, text/plain)
I was experiencing this problem with a Dell Dimension 2300 desktop (Intel 82845G/
Speculating that this was a configuration issue in Karmic, I switched back to using an xorg.conf file I had used with Jaunty after following this guide: http://
I have not experienced a freeze since I started using this xorg.conf file again. I think the reason may be that it disables tiling. From the guide:
"N.B.: If you are using an Intel 8xx chipset, tiling cause instability unless you use the Bleeding-Edge configuration. Therefore: if you are using the Safe/Optimal configurations, set tiling to false; if you are using the Bleeding-Edge configuration, set tiling to true."
The "Bleeding-Edge" configuration it refers to involved using drivers from the xorg-edgers PPA. I was using the "Optimal" configuration and therefore set tiling to false in my xorg.conf. What I suspect is that Karmic's default intel driver has this tiling issue, and it is enabled by default for those who do not use an xorg.conf.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #65 |
Ky, I am also using this config on two PC's multi booting with 9.04 with no problems. I didn't try using this in 9.10 because I wanted it fixed for lucid.
There are thousands and thousands of these older chip-set PC's that are moving to linux, and 8.04 was out of the box working perfect with many not upgrading because of the graphic issues there after.
I was hoping with help, we could make 10.4 be out of the box too.
Adam (adam-leckron-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #66 |
Also experiencing the same problems with a Dell Dimension 2400. Even on a
fresh load of Karmic. I have been watching this thread recently and trying
the brian-rogers
graphics-testing<https:/
PPA
but haven't had any success so far. I can try the xorg.conf thing tonight
and see how that goes. Agree this is kind of a big problem! Worked fine
with Jaunty, then upgrade = dead!
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #67 |
Adam, Don't want to get off subject but besides my dell 1100 I have a 2400 that has redeon 2550 graphics and it "=nothing" after fresh install of karmic.
I later upgraded a new partition of jaunty ext4 and it worked but very unstable. Desperate, I used Brian's intel PPA and now it is stable even though I use the radeon card?
my2$
Ky Weichel (kweichel) wrote : | #68 |
Shadetree, do you mean you're using the configuration described in the guide on your 9.04 machines? What are you dual-booting them with, Windows, Karmic, or something else entirely? I ask only out of curiosity.
I figure the reason enabling tiling is ok for those using the "bleeding edge" configuration in the guide is that this issue has been fixed in the version of xserver-
Adam (adam-leckron-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #69 |
Originally it was upgraded from Karmic, so it was ext3 before I blew it away
and reloaded (of course then it was ext4). I am just using the standard
onboard intel graphics.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #70 |
"Shadetree, do you mean you're using the configuration described in the guide on your 9.04 machines? What are you dual-booting them with, Windows, Karmic, or something else entirely? I ask only out of curiosity."
I'm multi boot testing 8.04, 9.04, 9.10 32/64bit partitions on various xp, xp pro, vista & 7 PC's.
Yes, I use "optimal configurations, set tiling to false" on the dell 1100, 2400 with 9.04 works fine.
As stated above, the radeon on the 2400 is unstable until the intel drivers are work correctly first in 9.10 for the unused on-board intel graphics.
I need to stick to the topic to save space here:-)
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #71 |
Since most people are getting the freeze randomly, it's possible for it to seem stable purely by chance and not because you're running a good version. I believe that happened with 2.8.0.901, which has now been reported as both good and bad.
So it helps to have as many testers as possible. We want as many chances as possible to catch bad versions. If someone reports a freeze, we have to go backward, not forward, through the revision history to find the first bad commit. I've now backed the version up to 2.8.0-1-g2463865 due to the report of a freeze.
Does it freeze for anyone with this version?
Adam (adam-leckron-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #72 |
Not sure, but I may have a different problem at this point? I am not getting far enough to freeze. Ever since the fresh install of Karmic - I always get a black screen on boot just after the white loading ubuntu logo and I never get the login screen. Numlock & caps lock unresponsive. Can't Ctrl+Alt+F1 to terminal. Have to hold in the power button for a hard reset. I've even reverted back to the current versions from the main repository (both xserver-
Now I am not sure if this is related, but I also get a lot these annoying messages over and over again during boot into recovery-
serial 18250: too much work for irq 17
(Sounds like I am not the only one- http://
I tried using the tiling "false" option in the xorg.conf, no difference.
So I have tried the steps in this page- https:/
Workaround A: Creating an xorg.conf and using the vesa driver - X starts fine and I can login, everything is okay (HUGE but everything works okay)
Workaround B: Changing resolutions in xorg.conf - no noticeable difference
Workaround C: Disabling usplash - I don't get the white ubuntu logo, but still locks up
Not sure what to do at this point. Same issue or something else? I don't want to confuse things further, so if I am too far off here and should create a new bug report, please let me know! Thanks
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #73 |
Adam, I will send you a PM and see how your system is setup at, so not to cloud this report for now.
Kamalakar Agashe (kagashe) wrote : | #74 |
I had filed similar bug report https:/
I have tested the current driver for a day and there is no freeze. I can test for another day but I have to leave this Desktop tomorrow and will not have access to it later on.
I will report if there is a freeze before I leave.
The current driver:
libdrm2 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
Kernel 2.6.31-17-generic
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #75 |
5:2.8.0-1-g2463865 is stable
libdrm2 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Kernel 2.6.31-17-generic
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #76 |
OK, with two reports of stability, that version does appear to be good. I've now uploaded 2.8.0-2-gb0aa94f.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #77 |
5:2.8.0-2-gb0aa94f is stable :-)
Note to readers:
This version boots 100% on my laptop, Dell Inspiron 1100. There are many bugs listed for this mother board having issues with previous releases and has never been bootable like this since 8.04. Perhaps lucid will evolve from this.
The Dell Dimension 2400 has ran stable on the last 4 versions from Brian's PPA.
Timothy G. Rundle (tgrundle) wrote : | #78 |
5:2.8.0-2-gb0aa94f has been stable for me for a couple days.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:51 AM, shadetree <email address hidden> wrote:
> 5:2.8.0-2-gb0aa94f is stable :-)
>
> Note to readers:
>
> This version boots 100% on my laptop, Dell Inspiron 1100. There are
> many bugs listed for this mother board having issues with previous
> releases and has never been bootable like this since 8.04. Perhaps
> lucid will evolve from this.
>
> The Dell Dimension 2400 has ran stable on the last 4 versions from
> Brian's PPA.
>
> --
> [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in X.org xf86-video-intel: In Progress
> Status in “xserver-
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: xorg
>
> After a do-release-upgrade -d from jaunty to karmic beta, I am getting
> "lock ups".
>
> If I don't log in and just leave gdm idling, the machine doesn't freeze.
> If I switch to a virtual console and use that, no freeze. I can ssh in
> just fine and do all kinds of stuff with no lock ups. But once I log in via
> gdm, I can go <strike>about 5-10 minutes</strike> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: anywhere
> from a few minutes to 12 hours or so until the machine:
>
> EDIT 26 Oct 2009: Please see comments for update on how the freezes
> behave!
>
> 1) <strike>stops responding to all mouse/keyboard input</strike> EDIT 2 Oct
> 2009: In all freezes, the keyboard stops responding and mouse clicks do
> nothing. Recent freezes have left the mouse pointer movable, but some of
> the first freezes I saw left the mouse pointer immovable.
> 2) CapsLock will not toggle
> 3) <strike>sshing in doesn't work anymore</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: This
> may not be the case. The freezes occurring over the last couple of days
> have left ssh still operating.
> 4) alt+sysrq+reisub will cause a reboot, and the screen usually blanks
> after the 'i' is put in to send SIGKILL to all processes.
>
> I have the 82845G graphics chipset, and i915 is shown in the output of
> lsmod. As the problem only occurs when I'm in X, and as it doesn't matter
> whether I'm in GNOME or a failsafe xterm session, I suspect the graphics
> driver.
>
> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: I'm working through the X freeze troubleshooting tips at
> https:/
> info as soon as possible.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> Architecture: i386
> CurrentDmesg:
> [ 18.816154] e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
> [ 18.816928] ADDRCONF(
> [ 29.376013] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> [ 59.736386] uart_close: bad serial port count; tty->count is 1,
> state->count is 0
> Date: Tue Oct 20 23:29:42 2009
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
> Lsusb:
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Package: xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
> ProcCmdLine: root=UUID=
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #79 |
2.8.0.901 has no code changes from 2.8.0-2-gb0aa94f, so I'm advancing to the next version after that.
2.8.0.901-
The earlier report of a freeze with 2.8.0.901+karmic was either a fluke or due to the fact that it had some patches on top of the upstream 2.8.0.901 (which were carried over from the karmic development upload I copied). From this point forward, these are pure upstream versions, and if someone reports a freeze, I'll see if I can get a second confirmation.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #80 |
2.8.0.901-
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #81 |
OK, I've uploaded a plain 2.8.1 build, no additional patches on top of it this time.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #82 |
2.8.1 is stable since release on both my test machines.
Only these lines in xorg Section "screen" for the Dell Inspiron 1100 notebook, everything else is configured.
SubSection "Display"
EndSubSection
No xorg file on the Dell Dimension 2400 desktop.
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #83 |
I have joined using Brian's ppa since the latest upload (also a Dell Inspiron 1100) and also haven't had any crashes since. It seems though that the graphics are sometimes slower, but that's better than the random crashes.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #84 |
Yes performance is slower but that is something we can work on later in xorg? I was hoping the driver insatiability fix would ultimately improve acceleration.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #85 |
When this bug is resolved, we'll be able to go back to the new driver with the bugfix added, and things will be fast again as well as stable.
One reason I just realized for why graphics-testing is slower is that by reverting libdrm but not mesa, I broke opengl acceleration. It was just silently falling back to software. This may have also covered up freezing issues caused by mesa, since I was essentially removing mesa from the equation. So now I've uploaded an older mesa version that should work with the reverted libdrm.
You can check whether you're getting software or hardware rendering with the following command:
glxinfo | grep renderer
Which will produce something like this for hardware:
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2
Or for software:
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
I have an affected i845 system at home now, for testing. Running Bejeweled Twist on it freezes the system, even in Jaunty. But only with hardware acceleration, so there's definitely a mesa freeze bug and it's been there a while.
3D applications can probably freeze the system for most people now that hardware acceleration is re-enabled. But what I'm interested in is whether this affects the stability even when you're not running 3D applications. If so, it may have all along been the breaking of mesa that made the freeze bug go away. And in that case, I need to start looking at pre-Jaunty versions of mesa.
Alex Perry (perry-alex) wrote : | #86 |
Another Dell 2400 here. Reverted to older drivers (2.4) using this guide (https:/
Ubuntu 9.10, 2.6.31-17-generic
robbielink (robbielink) wrote : | #87 |
New subscriber. Added Brian's PPA, updated.
Dell Dimension 2400 w/ Intel 82845G/
Karmic 2.6.31-18-generic
No Compiz
Had been experiencing numerous freezes at random times and sometimes freezing even logging in. Much frustration and searching brought me here. Will report any future freezes since adding this PPA
Thanks for your good work!
Edwin Floyd (edwin-thefloydfamily) wrote : | #88 |
FWIW, I'm seing a random freeze that looks very much like this, but with nvidia hardware on my ASUS laptop - Karmic, 64-bit, all latest patches. Every couple of days, screen just stops responding to mouse clicks and keyboard but mouse cursor still moves; can't find any diagnostic info in logs. Ctrl-Alt-Bksp restart fixes it for another day or two, but crashes all in-flight desktop apps, of course. I've been trying newer kernels [currently 2.6.33-
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #89 |
Still stable and loads at 100% to desktops.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G GEM 20090418 2009Q1 x86/MMX/SSE2
xserver 5:2.8.1+karmic
glxgears won't fill full screen, but no crashes.
Alberto Cerpa (acerpa+launchpad) wrote : | #90 |
New subscriber.
Panasonic CF-W2 Toughbook
4:16am alberto@
Linux triton 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 16:20:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
4:16am alberto@
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 02)
I am using Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic. Since installing, I have had serious freezes, with and w/o compiz, firefox, chrome, etc. etc.
Reverted to older drivers (2.4) using this guide (https:/
Had to boot from CD to manually revert back the drivers so I can boot properly.
Added Brian's PPA, updated.
Freezes appear with:
- Compiz enabled/disabled
- KMS enabled/disabled
- When watching video and actively using the laptop, after login when siting idle with nothing but the screensaver running, etc.
3 freezes in the last 4 hours :-(
When checking for hw or sw rendering I got:
4:17am alberto@
do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly.
Try adjusting the vblank_mode configuration parameter.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 852GM/855GM GEM 20090418 2009Q1 x86/MMX/SSE2
xserver-
Hope this helps.
woodmastersam (woodmastersam) wrote : | #91 |
Another Dell 2400 here. Reverted to older drivers (2.4) using this guide (http://
Ubuntu 9.10, 2.6.31-18-generic
Also occurring in Lucid Alpha2-reverting to 2.4 driver fixed it there too
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #92 |
OK, xserver-
Alberto Cerpa (acerpa+launchpad) wrote : | #93 |
Brian,
Are you working on the 845GM mainly or do this work for the 855GM? The previous package did not improve the freezing in my case. I would appreciate your input.
Alberto Cerpa (acerpa+launchpad) wrote : | #94 |
Sorry, just a clarification. When I said the 'previous' I meant xserver-
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #95 |
To woodmastersam
Please can you clarify location of instructions for reverting. The link (http://
KaGeN101 (kagen101) wrote : | #96 |
Hi
I also get this exact behavior on a Karmic 2.6.31-17 with a Matrox card, MGA G200eW WPCM450.
Any ideas?
Thanks...
KaGeN101 (kagen101) wrote : | #97 |
Further to my above comment,
It works fine on 2.6.31-14 to 16. The problem start when I upgrade to 17.
So I would think something has changed between 14 and 17?
Thanks
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #98 |
OK, The new xserver-
woodmastersam (woodmastersam) wrote : | #99 |
I disabled Compiz entirely:
sudo chmod a-x /usr/bin/compiz
went back after and reenabled it, and with the 2.4 driver I'm freeze-free.
I Added the following lines to my /etc/apt/
deb http://
deb-src http://
I Imported the appropriate GPG key
sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.
I Installed the driver:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xserver-
I have only had one freeze since in either Gnome or XFCE and that was caused by a Chromium update that got mangled. I purged and reinstalled the Chromium packages and no problems...
Lorenzo De Liso (blackz) wrote : | #100 |
I have just tried with xserver-
I have disabled compiz and seems to work. With the driver xserver-
robbielink (robbielink) wrote : | #101 |
2.8.1 appeared to totally solve my problems - no freezes since I installed 3 days ago.
Just installed 2.8.1-1 - no freeze on startup - will report any freezes in use.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #102 |
I found another way to freeze the system. For me, the following command will usually trigger a freeze before it completes:
x11perf -range copywinpix10,
I'd like to find out if that freeze is connected to this one. If it is, then we have a good, reproducible test case. So along with reporting whether a version freezes during regular use, I'm also interested whether the above x11perf command causes freezes. Also, since there are multiple revisions of the i845, it's good to report what version you have with this command:
lspci | grep VGA
Mine looks like this:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #103 |
Yes, "x11perf -range copywinpix10,
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #104 |
shadetree, what version of libdrm, mesa, and xserver-
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #105 |
I have just run this command twice and it didn't seem to cause any freezes, but it did log me off eventually and I had to log in again--maybe that's how it's supposed to be?
I am not running the latest version of the ppa (2.8.1-1), but the previous one. (I didn't even test it. I wouldn't now how to revert it if it crashes already during start up. So after the first reports on the crashes, I decided not to install it.)
lspci | grep VGA:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
robbielink (robbielink) wrote : | #106 |
Oh, THAT was interesting. Not sure what was supposed to be happening. Didn't freeze though the graphic window it opened stayed in the foreground, couldn't move it or bring any other window to foreground, system was still responsive though VERY slow. Graphics got more complex with each cycle - maybe be more helpful to tell what it does.
Eventually it logged me out very quickly, I was able to log back in to a normal session no problem.
Looks like I have the same version as Brian:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Running 2.8.1-1
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #107 |
Sorry,
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
xserver-
libdrm 2.4.11-2+
mesa 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
Boots to x now with no usplash or login (DRAM?).
robbielink (robbielink) wrote : | #108 |
Out of curiosity I tried
x11perf -range copywinpix10,
on my Compaq Laptop which has never experienced any kind of freeze with any version on Ubuntu and got the same behaviour I got in my previous post #88 on the Dimension 2400 which is the machine that was experiencing the freezes (though none on Brian's PPA yet). The graphic test or whatever it is ran for a while in it's own window and then promptly logged me out.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
xserver-
libdrm 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
mesa ? - not sure which package I'm looking for - 7.6.0 sound right?
Lorenzo De Liso (blackz) wrote : | #109 |
Brian Rogers, the command "x11perf -range copywinpix10,
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7500 LE] (rev a1)
I think it's a generally problem of X.
robbielink, yes, it's a X's bug as shadatree and I said.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #110 |
"x11perf -range copywinpix10,
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #111 |
The suggested x11perf command completes fine for me, and I don't see any X freezes with:
libdrm2: 2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
kernel: 2.6.31-17-generic
mesa: 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
lspci | grep VGA output:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
I haven't been testing each version all along - sorry. Also, the above set of versions no longer allows 1280x1024, which I could get under jaunty (and get at some previous point in the testing that I unfortunately don't remember). The highest resolution I can get is 1024x768.
Eager to keep testing.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #112 |
OK, version 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec is up.
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #113 |
how can I revert to a previous version of the ppa if it turns out to crash (during start up or later)?
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #114 |
There's no automatic way to revert to an earlier version of the PPA as a whole, but you can revert packages individually by manually installing the older .deb files. And since only the -intel package has been updated lately, that's the only one you'll have to revert.
To install a .deb file manually, type
sudo dpkg -i <filename>
The file you want might still be in /var/cache/
https:/
It's good to save the files (or copy them out of /var/cache/
Also, to revert the PPA entirely and go back to Karmic, install ppa-purge and run this command:
sudo ppa-purge ppa:brian-
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #115 |
Brian, thanks for the detailed instructions. I have updated the ppa earlier today and haven't had any freezes (yet), but I'll keep testing.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #116 |
The suggested x11perf command causes an X crash (not a freeze) and gdm restarts.
libdrm2: 2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
kernel: 2.6.31-17-generic
mesa: 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
lspci | grep VGA output:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
This is new behavior on my machine from xserver-
I'm hopeful that others see a change in behavior here.
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #117 |
I also tried the x11perf command, but didn't get any crash. Also, this time I didn't get logged out.
I'm realizing that I may not run compiz but metacity, not sure, I had fiddled with that much earlier when I tried to prevent the freezes. Does that make any difference?
robbielink (robbielink) wrote : | #118 |
so is 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec a regression from 2.8.1-1 which I've been VERY happily running freeze-free since you put it up?
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #119 |
Apparently there's a generic X memory corruption bug triggered by the x11perf command I gave (I can crash Xephyr with it). When X crashes out rather than freezing, it's because of that. So it turns out this isn't a good test of the driver.
I did witness freezing in some scenarios with this command:
x11perf -range srect10,srect500 -time 1 -repeat 1
And I was not able to observe any memory corruption with the above command, only the freezing. So this is a better test.
Robbielink, no regressions have been reported so far with 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec. There was a report of a crash with the earlier x11perf command, but it turns out that isn't caused by the driver. It's an X bug that randomly may or may not trigger.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #120 |
Just a note that I rolled back to the karmic repo and tried the "new" x11perf command. It didn't cause a freeze for me after about 6 or 7 tries. Brian did note that it's not going to cause the freeze 100% of the time, but I wanted to reinforce that it's not a one and done check. After leaving the stock karmic repo versions running overnight, X did freeze, which made me glad, because I hadn't just imagined it before!
Still no freezes with the ppa:
libdrm2: 2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
kernel: 2.6.31-17-generic
mesa: 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #121 |
Sorry i haven't been able to give any input on testing lately.
A update to kernel-19 and grub, broke grub on 4 of my PC's, two were testing this driver.
I have been able to fix grub on the single drive machines but the multi drive PC's are bricked.
Robert Sass (sassrobi) wrote : | #122 |
Hi!
Asus A3N,
freezes, a couple of seconds after login.
kernel: 2.6.31-19-generic
xserver-
libdrm2: 2.4.11-2+karmic3
mesa-utils: 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
lspci | grep VGA: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
description: | updated |
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #123 |
no freezes on my machine with the latest ppa version so far, also not after the recent kernel update.
Robert Sass (sassrobi) wrote : | #124 |
with xserver-
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #125 |
For anyone on Lucid, I have uploaded a version of Lucid's libdrm to my PPA which has this patch: http://
This patch is supposed to fix many of the freeze problems that has occurred lately. The PPA is at https:/
Jan Beranek (jan233321) wrote : | #126 |
My freezes were slightly different, but with exactly the same end. It never freezes after power off/on cycle (complete reboot) - but it freezed always after suspend state - the freezes were in interval 2min - 5 hours after wake-up.
Now, I'm trying updated libdrm on Karmic - and no freezes after suspend state so far (now approx. 14 hours of run!!). Never have been so long without freeze! Seems good now.
xserver-
libdrm2: 2.4.17-
libdrm-intel1: 2.4.17-
mesa: 1:7.4.1-
kernel: 2.6.33-
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Jan.
Carl Meyer (carljm) wrote : | #127 |
Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop with Karmic, I was experiencing freezes reliably every boot after under an hour, mouse moving but no response otherwise. Someone had said they could trigger the freeze with the "kernel modesetting" system test, or with shifting to tty with C-A-Fx, I was not able to trigger it with either of those.
carljm@mizuna:~$ lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Just updated using Brian Rogers' PPA, no freezes now for several hours, it definitely would have frozen by now before.
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
libdrm-intel1: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #128 |
OK, sounds like this version is good, so I've upgraded graphics-testing to 2.8.0-47-ge903b3e.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #129 |
This version is stable.
7:2.8.0-47-ge903b3e
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Linux 2.6.31-19-generic
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #130 |
Version 2.8.99.
To speed things up I'm going to wait less for feedback now. It could take us down a wrong path if a bad version happens to run stably for a while, but we'll backtrack if that happens.
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #131 |
It would help occasional not-very-techie testers like me if someone could
post the summary of how to install the latest 2.8.99 version into Lucid.
Thanks
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #132 |
The package has to be built for Lucid so it can tie into the Lucid versions of its dependencies. Older versions of xserver-
I just checked and the current version I have in the PPA is new enough, so I just did a build for Lucid. You can get it by adding my PPA normally on Lucid. Just add this to software sources: ppa:brian-
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #133 |
OK, I added ppa:brian-
appeared
*http://
I then updated and saw it updating a few different things from brian-rogers.
After restarting my machine, Foxconn R10-S1, which has an Intel Atom with Intel
945GC+ ICH7 chipset, it works fine, including running all three levels of
visual effects.
The display has been working fine since I rolled back the
xserver-
using your new version?
Many thanks.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #134 |
Just search for xserver-
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #135 |
Have checked, and it is the Lucid version from your PPA. And it's still
working fine with Intel 945GC. Cheers.
Adam J. Lincoln (adamjlincoln) wrote : | #136 |
No freezes with:
libdrm2: 2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
kernel: 2.6.31-19-generic
mesa: 7.4.1-1ubuntu6+
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #137 |
This version is stable.
7:2.8.99.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Linux 2.6.31-19-generic
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #138 |
Acer SK20 here.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
kernel: Linux version 2.6.31-19-generic (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.4.1 (Ubuntu 4.4.1-4ubuntu8) ) #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010 (Ubuntu 2.6.31-
libdrm2: 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
xserver-
7:2.8.99.
7:2.8.99.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #139 |
2.8.99.
I'm going to upload a version between 2.8.99.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #140 |
2.8.99.
Rebooted, installing 2.8.99.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #141 |
2.8.99.
Now trying 2.8.0-47-ge903b3e.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #142 |
2.8.0-47-ge903b3e froze. Trying 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec.
alwaysanewbie (glennh) wrote : | #143 |
Hooray! 8:2.8.99.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #144 |
No freeze so far with 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec. Have to go now; will leave this machine running and check it again in ~12 hours.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #145 |
This version is stable:
2.8.99.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Linux 2.6.31-19-generic
alwaysanewbie (glennh) wrote : | #146 |
>2.8.99.
Sorry, I meant "Brian":)
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #147 |
Based on the reports from Flabdablet, I have backed up a bit to a build between 2.8.0-8-g12c5aec and 2.8.0-47-ge903b3e. 2.8.0-27-g926c7e7 is now uploaded.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #148 |
After more than 24 hours of stable running on this box, 7:2.8.0-8-g12c5aec froze while attempting to use gdebi to install 7:2.8.0-
Would like to try 6:2.8.1-1 but too incompetent to find the .deb.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #149 |
The system deletes old packages after a while, so that one isn't available any more. But now I sent in a build of 2.8.0, which will get built when it works its way through the queue.
You've been having a lot of luck reproducing the hang, which is good, but I want to double-check that you're indeed getting a graphics hang and not something else. When it hangs, can you still move the mouse cursor?
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #150 |
Mouse cursor moves, but clicks are ignored and keyboard is locked up (caps/num lock produce no change in status LEDs, ctrl-alt-Fn doesn't work). Disk activity continues. If a freeze is going to happen, it will most often be right when an app is in the process of opening a new window. I'm using Metacity as desktop effects cannot be enabled (is Intel 845 blacklisted for Compiz? haven't followed this up). Alt-SysRq-R E I S U will cause some disk activity at each keystroke and *very* occasionally produce a black screen but B never reboots; only holding in the power button will do that. Have not yet tried ssh since none of these boxes have openssh-server installed, but can do so if you need further confirmation that this is the same freeze pattern as initially reported.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #151 |
Hi Flabdablet, Just curious, does your desktop clock change time (update) during your freeze?
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #152 |
I've just installed 11:2.8.0, and if it freezes I will watch the desktop clock for a minute and let you know.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #153 |
I now have two of these boxes on the same bench, both with 11:2.8.0 installed. The one I'm using to try to get today's work done is running sshd, and the other one is running top on it via ssh. I have pressed Murphy's Law into service to help these boxes freeze if they're going to freeze, by also installing 11:2.8.0 on all the boxes that will be moved out to the shed today for resale to school parents. Will report back if something changes.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #154 |
Thanks, Murphy. Love your work.
11:2.8.0 froze while using Firefox to compose a Gmail. As usual the mouse cursor remained movable (though stuck in the I-beam shape from the compose window, this time) but no response to clicks or keyboard. The desktop clock didn't update. The top listing on the other computer (in an ssh session to this one) did continue to update. When I quit top and tried "sudo service gdm stop" there was a password prompt, then a ~20 second wait, then a message reading "gdm stop/waiting" but the display on the frozen computer remained frozen. Issuing "sudo reboot" from the ssh session rebooted the frozen computer.
Please, sir, could I have an even older one?
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #155 |
Yeah, that's definitely a GPU hang. 2.7.0 has been uploaded and should build eventually. If you have problems getting this version to run at all, you may have to boot with i915.modeset=0 in your kernel parameters.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #156 |
These boxes are all booting with nomodeset=1 kernel parameters and 1024x768 forced in xorg.conf anyway, per bug 522488.
12:2.7.0 is a doozy! Freezes in the customary fashion before even making it to the desktop (these boxes are all set to auto-login) on four tries out of five so far, 15 seconds after on the fifth try. Kind of amusing to watch the spinning throbber cursor stop spinning but keep moving with the mouse.
I'm reinstalling 2.8.0 on the 2.7.0 test box. I won't be at the school playing with these for the next few days, unfortunately.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #157 |
Interesting...if you are not able to even get to X at boot, sounds like dram lost. You could try changing your settings in your BIOS video size up to 8mb if lower, and remove boot splash to give some dram back to start X;-)
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #158 |
We've gone back so far now that we've nearly gone back to the Jaunty version. When you get back to this testing, you may want to do a Jaunty install and see if that suffers from the bug. If it doesn't, we have our good version and it might be easier to step forward from there with newer versions of xserver-
It will also avoid potential problems with an old driver and new kernel, etc...
Adam (adam-leckron-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #159 |
Hmmm... hasn't this been broken ever since the Karmic release (going on 4
months)? If I go out and buy a new video card, will that fix my problem
(now)? Suggestions for someone who can't borrow their mothers's computer
for weeks on end to play around with different driver versions? I hate to
reload Windows or even Jaunty for that matter... my first windows->Ubuntu
convert is not going so well!
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #160 |
Yeah, a new video card will bypass the problem, since you won't be using the i845.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #161 |
I do hope we continue to test this driver issue.
I too have a Dell 2400 with this onboard chipset driver and have temporary remove the Radeon 9250 PCI card to help with testing.
My Dell 1100 Inspiron note book with a Intel Corporation 82845G/
Tal Amir (smirnof-t2) wrote : | #162 |
Before having seen this bug report, I filed a new bug report here: https:/
I believe the two bugs are the same bug (except for the video playback problem, which wasn't mentioned here).
I hope that report will give you helpful information.
Thanks to everyone who is working on this issue.
Tal
Joatmon (support-enservhosting) wrote : | #163 |
I too am experiencing this problem. I have several computers with the old Intel chipsets. I've attempted several "work-arounds" suggested in the forums. I registered/
kogevni (gramp3) wrote : (no subject) | #164 |
Dell inspiron 1100
kernel 2.6.31-
intel 11:2.8.0 no freezes
2.8.99.
however booting to working display still requires sometime several cold
boot.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #165 |
This version is stable:
12:2.7.0, But the GL rendering is not so good.
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Linux 2.6.31-19-generic
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #166 |
I have a kernel patch for people to try. It works around the x11perf freeze, and I'm curious if it prevents random freezing as well. Kernels with this patch, for both Karmic and Lucid, are available in a separate PPA of mine, graphics-fixes:
https:/
When you add this PPA and reload, a new kernel version will be available, linux-image-
Testing will be most interesting without the packages from graphics-testing, so run this command to remove that:
sudo ppa-purge ppa:brian-
Note that the patch in this new kernel is a workaround and may impair performance in certain specific scenarios. But it will be useful in figuring out whether the random freeze and the x11perf freeze are related.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #167 |
After noticing in Xorg.0.log that 2.8.0 used UXA by default while 2.7.0 was picking EXA, I added
Option "AccelMethod" "UXA"
to the "Device" section in xorg.conf and reinstalled 2.7.0. This has fixed the early freeze reported in comment #138. I will be working with this box for the next couple of days, and will report back if it freezes. The other box on the same bench (the one I'm using to ssh into this one when necessary) will continue to run 2.8.0.
Also: after reading comment #147, I tried glxgears on both at the same time and found that the 2.7.0 box is actually reporting a *higher* frame rate: anywhere from 1498 to 2274 frames per 5 seconds with about 2200 being typical, compared to the very consistent 1489-1493 reported by 2.8.0 and all later versions.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #168 |
2.7.0 just froze in the usual way, while scrolling a remote VNC window with vinaigre.
I hadn't added your ppa to my sources.list.d; I've just been downloading and dpkg --installing xserver-
sudo apt-get update
sudo dpkg --force-depends --remove xserver-
sudo apt-get install xserver-
sudo dpkg --status xserver-
to make sure I now have 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1 installed again, and
echo deb http://
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install linux-image-
and will report back if I get another freeze.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #169 |
OK, assuming "may impair performance in certain specific scenarios" means the same thing as "makes the entire desktop experience unresponsive enough to be intolerable except for debugging purposes" it appears that your patched kernel is working as intended :-)
Will report freezes if any occur.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #170 |
If you never added my PPA, does that mean you never downgraded libdrm or mesa? That might be a factor in being able to reproduce the freeze in such old xserver-
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #171 |
OK, I see where you specify libdrm 2.4.14-1ubuntu1. You could be getting freezes because of a libdrm bug in the newer version.
Joatmon (support-enservhosting) wrote : | #172 |
Test Configuration: linux-image-
Test Scenario: Applications > Games > Robots.
Test Results: Very slow! Blank screen w/ moving mouse cursor after 1 minute. No response to keyboard or mouse buttons.
Test Recovery: Remote login via "ssh", "shutdown -r now", select kernel 2.6.31-19-generic in GRUB menu.
Note: Some stability can be achieved (2-4 hours) w/ 2.6.31-19-generic by setting screen saver to "Blank screen" HOWEVER, my first attempt to enter this info by editing in Firefox. I've observed this before. Second attempt, edited in gedit w/ no problem and then did a cut & paste to Firefox.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #173 |
OK, I'll test that idea. There did seem to be a stability improvement going from the stock xserver-
$ echo deb http://
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install libdrm2 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libosmesa6 mesa-utils
$ sudo dpkg --install ~/Downloads/
$ dpkg --status libdrm2 | grep Version
Version: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
$ dpkg --status libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libosmesa6 mesa-utils | grep Version | uniq
Version: 1:7.4.1-
Rebooted into kernel 2.6.31-19-generic. Will report any freezes.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #174 |
Got the usual freeze while scrolling a Firefox tab. Now testing:
kernel: 2.6.31-19-generic
libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglu1-mesa, libosmesa6, mesa-utils: 1:7.4.1-
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
xserver-
What are the chances of a workaround kernel with slightly less aggressive time delays in it? Your 2.6.31-50-generic really does make this box unpleasantly laggy.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #175 |
I could lower the delay, but if it froze we wouldn't know if that was because a delay doesn't fix the problem or because the delay was too short.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #176 |
12:2.7.0 and friends listed above just froze while looking at a Flash-based web site, so I guess we're still looking at a driver issue, not a mesa or libdrm2 one.
I don't have a Jaunty installer disc or any blanks here, but will burn one before coming to work tomorrow if you think running an earlier driver inside Karmic would be too fraught.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #177 |
In the meantime, I will grit my teeth, knees and elbows and persist with testing linux-image-
John E. (bucksteep-gmail) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #178 |
Hello,
My experience with the "graphics-fixes" PPA was similar to flabdablet's --
unusably slow. In the 10 or so minutes it took to login and start a browser,
I got no actual freezes; just 30-to-60-second response delays for each mouse
click. With everything running at 1/100th usual speed, it might've taken
weeks to decide whether the driver was stable. (it usually takes a few hours
of use) Unfortunately I needed to use the machine so I did a hard reboot &
reverted to regular Karmic.
Details: I used the "graphics-fixes" PPA starting from a regular Karmic, to
which I've reverted:
Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 02)
libdrm1-intel1 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
xserver-
libgl1-
linux-{
(The unusably slow PPA kernel was
--
John E.
summary: |
- [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in + [i845] [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in |
summary: |
- [i845] [i845G] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in + [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in |
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #179 |
Couldn't bear working with linux-image-
If there's somebody else whose freeze experience matches mine wrt driver versions in use, it would be good to put your hand up, as I won't have access to these boxes for much longer.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #180 |
Now running a fresh-from-CD Jaunty with "Option" "AccelMethod" "UXA" added to the Device section in xorg.conf. Brian: if this doesn't freeze today, what's best to do next?
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #181 |
I'm preparing post-Jaunty versions of libdrm and the intel driver, so we can step forward and find the first broken version, hopefully with fewer problems than running these old versions in Karmic.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #182 |
$ echo deb http://
$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get install libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
$ dpkg --status libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 2.4.9-2ubuntu3
Version: 2:2.7.0-jaunty1
Rebooted into kernel 2.6.28-11-generic and awaiting freeze.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #183 |
No freeze so far, but I can't switch to a text console - any attempt gives me a black screen, after which I can't get the GUI back. Keyboard and (presumably) mouse still fully operational - I can successfully log in blind to a text console and issue a reboot command. Doing /etc/init.d/gdm restart via ssh causes processes I know are running in the GUI (e.g. Firefox) to disappear, and the appropriate restart sounds, but the screen stays black.
About to ppa-purge and find out whether this is new behaviour or just Jaunty being itself on this box.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #184 |
$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:brian-
$ dpkg --status libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 2.4.5-0ubuntu4
Version: 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu9
$ sudo reboot
Correct text console behaviour restored.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #185 |
OK, I have libdrm 2.4.11 for Jaunty and a rebuild of the Intel driver queued up.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #186 |
Wow, that was a mess.
Sticking with your graphics testing PPA.
12:2.7.0,
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3,
mesa 1:7.4.1-
Linux 2.6.31-19-generic.
No issues, only performance with this version.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #187 |
I think the 2.6.32-50 kernel I uploaded for Lucid might perform better. If you want to try it in Karmic, you can get it directly here:
https:/
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #24825, Victor-grischenko (victor-grischenko) wrote : | #188 |
I have the same bug on OpenSUSE 11.2. Randomly desktop freezes, keyboard doesn't work and only mouse cursor is moved. So I had to press Reset to reboot desktop. After upgrading to 2.6.33 kernel the freezes doesn't disappear but keyboard doesn't lock any more. So I can switch to terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) login as root and soft reboot with reboot command.
Joatmon (support-enservhosting) wrote : | #189 |
Test Configuration:
emachines T3624 [VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
xserver-
libdrm2: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3,
libgl1-mesa-glx: 1:7.4.1-
kernel: 2.6.31-19-generic
Test Scenario:
1a) Applications > Games > Robots: Made rapid moves for approximately 2 minutes w/ no freeze.
1b) System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects > Normal: System searched for driver and appeared to change modes and immediately froze.
ssh, reboot.
2a) Applications > Games > Iagno, Help > Contents > Playing Iagno: Immediate freeze.
ssh, reboot.
3a) Started Firefox, gedit and synaptic and began preparing this summary.
3b) Applications > Games > Iagno: Played for 1-2 minutes - OK.
3c) Finished this summary.
Suggestions?
Joatmon (support-enservhosting) wrote : | #190 |
Configuration: emachines T3624 [VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
Kernel 2.6.31-20-generic
Status update: Put testing aside for a time pursuant to a stable platform via the following "work-arounds":
1) Created simple xorg.conf to select vesa driver. Acceptable performance with marked stability improvement (i.e., no freezing). Note: Used "Xorg -configure" to generate baseline xorg.conf - Xorg failed to start using this file. After a bit of "cut & paste" all was well.
2) Installed xserver-
3) Installed safe configuration per the instructions of pyske83 (http://
Glxgears performance: glxgears frame update rate was 125-150 fps for all of the work-arounds cited previously. Previously, the glxgears frame update rate was 280-300 fps. Note: psyke83 (see reference) urged caution regarding interpretation of glxgears performance metrics.
Note: During my research I read numerous forum and/or mailing list entries from individuals stating that they had or were about to abandon Ubuntu Linux because of this issue. Clearly, this malfunction should be rectified and hopefully these findings will be helpful to those more informed.
Thanks for your efforts!
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #191 |
$ dpkg --status libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 2.4.11-0jaunty2
Version: 2:2.7.0-jaunty2
$ uname -rv
2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009
Boots into GUI OK. Attempting to switch to a text console causes same misbehaviour noted in comment #165.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #192 |
Now trying your new libdrm with the old driver:
$ dv=2:2.
$ dpkg --status libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 2.4.11-0jaunty2
Version: 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu9
$ uname -rv
2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009
Text console switching works again.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #193 |
Just to clarify: I've had text console switching misbehaviour both times I've tried driver version 2:2.7.0-jaunty1. It's not a complete X freeze: the keyboard stays responsive, I can see the monitor turning its backlight off and on as I attempt to switch screens, and the monitor's OSD reports 1024x768 as it should. But the only way I've found to restore a non-black text or GUI screen is to reboot - restarting gdm doesn't do it.
Do you think this is related to the freeze we're chasing? Even if not, given that this misbehaviour is so quickly and reliably triggered, is it worth bisecting for in its own right?
crazybyte (vlzoltan) wrote : | #194 |
I have a similar issue. After a while X freezes up and nothing works on the graphics part, but behind for instance I can log in into the machine using OpenSSH. I tried disabling the DRM with nomodeset but still the drm, i915 modules are loaded into the kernel (I tried to blacklist them also) and the issue remains. My video controller is VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
05:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
and the computer is a HP rp5000 model and the OS is Ubuntu Karmic Koala. Because of this random freeze ups the machine is unusable for work. Is there some workaround that solves this issue? Thank you!
P.S. I read all the comments on this bug and tried most of them except package updates (I'm very conservative about those methods because this is my work machine).
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #195 |
Flabdablet, any console switching issues are most likely separate bugs that have already been fixed in newer versions. Only random freezing during general use is important. Do you see that with my current Jaunty PPA packages?
crazybyte, the best workaround is probably using nomodeset and setting vesa as your video driver in xorg.conf.
crazybyte (vlzoltan) wrote : | #196 |
Somewhat works if I disable modeset (nomodeset) and use vesa, but it's at the limit of usability, if I try to switch between text mode console and X the graphic screen freezes up and only the text console works (if I switch back). Also because I'm using VESA the screen resolutions are much much lower. Isn't there a fix (as a package or something that can be used to upgrade the system), even if it's unofficial, for Karmic? Thank you!
John E. (bucksteep-gmail) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #197 |
crazybyte: you might try Geir Ove Myhr's kernel #599; see
Comment #59 at bug
447892<https:/
It's stable for me on an Intel 855;
incl. compiz, dual-head, kms, etc.; might work for you too.
It's frozen in time, of course; I'm deferring kernel updates until ...
well, hopefully not too much longer.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, crazybyte <email address hidden> wrote:
> Somewhat works if I disable modeset (nomodeset) and use vesa, but it's
> at the limit of usability, if I try to switch between text mode console
> and X the graphic screen freezes up and only the text console works (if
> I switch back). Also because I'm using VESA the screen resolutions are
> much much lower. Isn't there a fix (as a package or something that can
> be used to upgrade the system), even if it's unofficial, for Karmic?
> Thank you!
>
> --
> [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in X.org xf86-video-intel: In Progress
> Status in “xserver-
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: xorg
>
> After a do-release-upgrade -d from jaunty to karmic beta, I am getting
> "lock ups".
>
> If I don't log in and just leave gdm idling, the machine doesn't freeze.
> If I switch to a virtual console and use that, no freeze. I can ssh in
> just fine and do all kinds of stuff with no lock ups. But once I log in via
> gdm, I can go <strike>about 5-10 minutes</strike> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: anywhere
> from a few minutes to 12 hours or so until the machine:
>
> EDIT 26 Oct 2009: Please see comments for update on how the freezes
> behave!
>
> 1) <strike>stops responding to all mouse/keyboard input</strike> EDIT 2 Oct
> 2009: In all freezes, the keyboard stops responding and mouse clicks do
> nothing. Recent freezes have left the mouse pointer movable, but some of
> the first freezes I saw left the mouse pointer immovable.
> 2) CapsLock will not toggle
> 3) <strike>sshing in doesn't work anymore</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: This
> may not be the case. The freezes occurring over the last couple of days
> have left ssh still operating.
> 4) alt+sysrq+reisub will cause a reboot, and the screen usually blanks
> after the 'i' is put in to send SIGKILL to all processes.
>
> I have the 82845G graphics chipset, and i915 is shown in the output of
> lsmod. As the problem only occurs when I'm in X, and as it doesn't matter
> whether I'm in GNOME or a failsafe xterm session, I suspect the graphics
> driver.
>
> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: I'm working through the X freeze troubleshooting tips at
> https:/
> info as soon as possible.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> Architecture: i386
> CurrentDmesg:
> [ 18.816154] e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex
> [ 18.816928] ADDRCONF(
> [ 29.376013] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
> [ 59.736386] uart_close: bad serial port count; tty->count is 1,
> state->count is 0
> Date: Tue Oct 20 2...
crazybyte (vlzoltan) wrote : | #198 |
Thanks! I will try that. Is this issue present in Lucid? Would upgrading to Lucid solve this issue? Thank you!
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #199 |
crazybyte, did you use Brian's PPA: https:/
This version is working on two of my PC's
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #200 |
I haven't yet seen the familiar freeze, but I've also not really had the
opportunity to work with that box for very long at a stretch, so I'm not
prepared to swear it's stable yet.
crazybyte (vlzoltan) wrote : | #201 |
@shadetree Thanks! It seems that using Brian's PPA solves the issue in my case. Until now I didn't got a freeze and I'm using modeset and fully working X (without vesa driver).
crazybyte (vlzoltan) wrote : | #202 |
It lloks that the packages from Brian's PPA repository finally solved the freezing issue for me. I'm using modeset and X (without graphical effects) and the machine is running since morning and didn't freeze at all.
@Brian Rogers Thank you for your amazing work and effort in solving this issue. Thank you again! :)
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #203 |
$ dpkg --status libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 2.4.11-0jaunty2
Version: 2:2.7.0-jaunty2
$ uname -rv
2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009
Booted with vga=791 kernel parameter. xorg.conf as attached.
Been using this for quite a few hours now. It seems stable, and text console switching also works; without Driver "intel" in xorg.conf, X chose the vesa driver instead. My previous report about text console badness *does not apply* to the intel driver. I think we're back on track.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #204 |
That's interesting because those are essentially the same versions that were unstable for you in Karmic. Can you attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both Karmic and Jaunty running graphics-testing?
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #205 |
- Xorg-logs.zip Edit (12.9 KiB, application/zip)
OK, here I am back in Karmic, and just making sure we're all using the same stuff:
$ pkgs='libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Version: 12:2.7.0
2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010
I've attached Xorg.0.log from Jaunty per comment #184 and Karmic per this one. Will run in Karmic until I can verify that it freezes, then report and boot back into Jaunty.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #206 |
Karmic froze. Now testing Jaunty.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #207 |
20 hours freeze free - I'm prepared to call it stable.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #208 |
Can you try Jaunty's kernel on Karmic and Karmic's kernel on Jaunty, to see if the difference in stability is due to the kernel versions?
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #209 |
- Xorg.0.log Edit (46.5 KiB, text/plain)
Now using Karmic with Jaunty's kernel.
$ pkgs='libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
Version: 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
Version: 12:2.7.0
2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010
Feels quite slow, and I'm only getting about 1/3 the usual fps out of glxgears. The attached Xorg.0.log looks like I'm loading the right driver, though.
Awaiting freezes.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #210 |
- Xorg.0.log Edit (21.2 KiB, text/plain)
It died, but not exactly the same way: this time, there was a sudden burst of disk activity during which everything went black, then no response to mouse or keyboard. I've attached Xorg.0.log retrieved via ssh before I rebooted; looks like X has crashed and then failed on restart.
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #211 |
Been out of testing for a while - busy and gave up testing with Lucid alpha 3 even more unstable than Lucid 2. Now testing with Lucid beta 1 - stable long enough to do updates via gui.
Have installed Lucid, updated and added ppa:brian-
Would be grateful for:
1. confirmation that the latest testing is in ppa:brian-
2. details of public key and how to install, preferably via gui.
Thank, Mark
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #212 |
Hello Mark, I understand the many posts.....I have been on Brian-rogers/
Are you using his lucid or karmic compiled ppa?
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : Re: [Bug 456902] Re: [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in | #213 |
Sorry, don't quite understand the question. (I'm not very techie!) I am
using karmic beta testing and have added brian-rogers/
the sources. Cheers
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #214 |
OK, Brian's PPA: https:/
You will need to choose and sub to that PPA.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #215 |
There are potential fixes for this in the upstream development version. I uploaded it for Lucid to the following PPA:
https:/
I can't simply upload this version for Karmic because it requires new versions of support libraries, but I can backport the important fixes. If someone can verify this version fixes the bug in Lucid, I'll backport the changes and we can get them in Karmic.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #216 |
OK, at this point, I recommend the xorg-edgers PPA for testing. It now has the newest xserver-
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #217 |
Oh, here is the link:
https:/
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #218 |
I have uploaded xserver-
both Karmic and Lucid to my standard PPA:
https:/
any mistake in the backporting or building, there should be no
additional problems with this ones compared to the standard Ubuntu
packages, since the fix is the only thing that has changed.
@developers: I'm not too familiar with quilt, so I edited the source
tree directly instead of adding a patch in debian/patches, but for
testing purposes, this should be no problem. The only change from the
commit patch is to change the pixmap to pPixmap and change the
indentation.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #219 |
$ pkgs='libdrm-dev libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1-dbg libdrm-nouveau1 libdrm-nouveau1-dbg libdrm2 libdrm2-dbg xserver-
$ dpkg --status $pkgs | grep Version | uniq && uname -rv
Version: 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
Version: 2:2.9.0-
2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010
Will continue to use this box for general work and report any freezes.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #220 |
Same old freeze while using remote desktop viewer.
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #221 |
Brian: after the last freeze, I accidentally rebooted into your patched kernel (2.6.31-50-generic) and ran it for a while with the same packages as in comment #200, and it also froze while I was using remote desktop viewer. So it looks like even that kernel's horrible GUI sloth doesn't actually prevent the freeze.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #222 |
Flabdablet, can you try Lucid + xorg-edgers? The upstream driver has additional bugfixes that may be relevant.
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Triaged → Fix Released |
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Fix Released → Confirmed |
Flabdablet (flabdablet) wrote : | #223 |
Having trouble getting the box to boot at all with Lucid + xorg-edgers, as xserver-
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #224 |
I have a kernel for people to try in my experimental PPA:
https:/
It contains the gtt chipset flush v7 patch from http://
You'll have to manually install linux-image-
John E. (bucksteep-gmail) wrote : | #225 |
That experimental kernel (2.6.34-
i855 froze up during login. I was running it with the following packages:
libdrm 1:2.4.11-2+karmic3
mesa 1:7.4.1ubuntu6+
xserver-
My GPU: Intel 82852/855GM [8086:3582] (rev 02)
Maybe a different set of packages would've worked better with that kernel?
So far the only stable combination I've found is Geir Ove Myhr's (Jan. 2,
2010)
linux-image-
http://
packages:
libdrm 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
mesa 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
xserver-
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Brian Rogers <email address hidden> wrote:
> I have a kernel for people to try in my experimental PPA:
> https:/
>
> It contains the gtt chipset flush v7 patch from
> http://
> 2.6.34-rc3. This patch has managed to stabilize the system for some i855
> users, but hasn't seen much i845 testing yet.
>
> You'll have to manually install linux-image-
> adding the PPA and reloading.
>
> ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #27187
> http://
>
> --
> [i845g] Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in X.org xf86-video-intel: In Progress
> Status in “xserver-
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: xorg
>
> After a do-release-upgrade -d from jaunty to karmic beta, I am getting
> "lock ups".
>
> If I don't log in and just leave gdm idling, the machine doesn't freeze.
> If I switch to a virtual console and use that, no freeze. I can ssh in
> just fine and do all kinds of stuff with no lock ups. But once I log in via
> gdm, I can go <strike>about 5-10 minutes</strike> EDIT 22 Oct 2009: anywhere
> from a few minutes to 12 hours or so until the machine:
>
> EDIT 26 Oct 2009: Please see comments for update on how the freezes
> behave!
>
> 1) <strike>stops responding to all mouse/keyboard input</strike> EDIT 2 Oct
> 2009: In all freezes, the keyboard stops responding and mouse clicks do
> nothing. Recent freezes have left the mouse pointer movable, but some of
> the first freezes I saw left the mouse pointer immovable.
> 2) CapsLock will not toggle
> 3) <strike>sshing in doesn't work anymore</strike> EDIT 2 Oct 2009: This
> may not be the case. The freezes occurring over the last couple of days
> have left ssh still operating.
> 4) alt+sysrq+reisub will cause a reboot, and the screen usually blanks
> after the 'i' is put in to send SIGKILL to all processes.
>
> I have the 82845G graphics chipset, and i915 is shown in the output of
> lsmod. As the problem only occurs when I'm in X, and as it doesn't matter
> whether I'm in GNOME or a failsafe xterm session, I suspect...
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #226 |
I recommend trying the experimental kernel with xorg-edgers. Or if not that, the standard packages.
Patrick Craenen (bootpanic) wrote : | #227 |
I'm experiencing the same problem with both Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 beta 2
My hardware is a MSI mainboard MS-7536 with an Intel 945G/GZ Integrated Graphics chip.
The screen freezes after a short while, sometimes even before the desktop is loaded...
Mouse pointer was every time unmovable/unusable.
Keyboard does not respond to normal input but reacts to Alt-SysRq reisub...
The machine stays reachable over SSH.
Resetting the X server does not revive the display.
If i can be of any assistance please let me know.
shadetree (pde-gotsky) wrote : | #228 |
Thanks everyone for all the testing but after about a year working on Karmic and a few months of Lucid with the same issues I am giving up and removing Ubuntu on these machines.
Again thanks for all the help and suggestions,
shadetree
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #229 |
For information, here is something useful, frustrating, but also encouraging on the Ubuntu discussions list about this bug.
"it's importance (is) high, has had an upstream developer participating, and an
awesome member of the x-swat team providing PPA testing packages. The
fact that it remains unfixed is not due to any lack of work on it!
The X team have been monitoring this, and other similar problems - the
i8xx chips have not had a good time of Lucid. As you see on that bug
there has been lots of work upstream to isolate and fix the cause.
Tracking the various upstream bugs you'll see that there have been a
number of false starts, but it looks like there *might* be a fix soon.
That fix won't be going into Lucid's release, as it's a big patch which
touches code for all the Intel cards, and hence might introduce new
problems in the i9xx chips. If all goes well, this might make it into
lucid-updates and 10.04.1.
Because of the serious stability issues i845 and i855 users have been
reporting we're testing disabling both 3D and KMS on these chips. If
feedback shows that this still isn't stable, we've got a fallback plan
to switch to vesa on those cards, which has been reported stable.
That's a serious functionality regression, but might be necessary to
provide a sufficiently stable desktop. In this case, users will be able
to manually enable the -intel driver, KMS, and 3D if they wish - these
bugs are incredibly timing-specific, with some setups crashing almost
immediately after starting X, and others crashing less than once a week.
--
Ubuntu-
Patrick Craenen (bootpanic) wrote : | #230 |
First of all a big thanks to all the people working on this problem!
My system is using an i945 gfx chip and also freezing.
Is this related to the same bug? Because the i945 chip was not mentioned in your reply...
Thanks
Geir Ove Myhr (gomyhr) wrote : | #231 |
> My system is using an i945 gfx chip and also freezing.
> Is this related to the same bug?
No. The bugs on i845 and i855 are not the same either, since the fix that is taking shape upstream for i855 does not work for i845. It is very rare that the same bug affects different chipsets.
Patrick Craenen (bootpanic) wrote : | #232 |
> No. The bugs on i845 and i855 are not the same either, since the fix that is taking shape upstream
> for i855 does not work for i845. It is very rare that the same bug affects different chipsets.
Thanks
I found another bug rapport (#450853) related to gfx freezing on i945.
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #233 |
Being an Ubuntu newbie, I'm afraid that the discussion has gotten a bit too technical for me recently and has lost me somewhere on the way.
I understand an official fix for this won't be available for some time. The ppa, however, has served me quite well on my Dell Inspiron 1100 with Karmic.
With the increasing excitement about the release of Lucid, I'd like to upgrade my machine but am wary that I might get freezes again. Thus my question, is there also a separate ppa for Lucid (or do I just add the same source??) that will most likely do the same job for me (if so what do I need to add)? Or can I only try and see?
A big thank you at this point for the terrific work that's been done here so far!
Mark Ellse (markellse) wrote : | #234 |
I, too, would be grateful for simple instructions as to how to get the latest test releases for Lucid. In Lucid I find that I cannot add
https:/
to sources. When I try to do that via the gui, it asks for 'the complete APT line' including the type, location and components. When I type the above in, 'Add Source' is greyed out. The only button available is 'Cancel'.
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #235 |
That's the information page for the PPA. You'll find instructions for adding it there.
But my 'experimental' PPA with a patched kernel is a better option: https:/
To add it, add this to your sources: ppa:brian-
Then after reloading sources, you'll be able to install linux-image-
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu): | |
assignee: | Lorenzo De Liso (blackz) → nobody |
Gitty K (jkleres) wrote : | #236 |
is there any news whether version 10.04.1, that will be released in a couple of weeks, will have this problem solved?
Changed in xserver-xorg-video-intel: | |
importance: | Unknown → Medium |
Brian Rogers (brian-rogers) wrote : | #237 |
This appears to be the same problem as bug 541492. It's just that most people weren't hitting the bug with any degree of frequency until Lucid. Duping.
First tarball of debugging information collected as instructed in https:/ /wiki.ubuntu. com/X/Troublesh ooting/ Freeze