Comment 14 for bug 7295

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:55:07 +0200
From: Eduard Bloch <email address hidden>
To: Pierre Machard <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: xmms/libmikmod2 bug is grave

#include <hallo.h>
* Pierre Machard [Sat, Sep 25 2004, 11:02:41AM]:

> > Why did you set the severity back if you did not understand the issue?
> > The problem here is not a plugin that breaks because of some missing
> > extra library (which would be okay).=20
> >=20
> > > The fact that libmikmod2 is not installed does not prevent xmms to wo=
rk.
> >=20
> > Wrong. That is the core of the problem. xmms application does not start
> > at all. I tried to get a backtrace now, but gdb does not produce any
> > data, maybe it is confused with its thread model. No idea.
> > However, xmms starts with LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=3D2.4.1 and this problem may=
 be
> > somehow related to TLS.
>=20
> On my environment (sarge) I have not this problem. I am running a
> 2.6.7-1-k7 kernel, but when I was running a 2.4.x I had not this
> problem. Are you running a Debian kernel or are you running a home made
> kernel ?

A-Ha. I think, something reported by several people cannot be just
random irreproducible problem. In fact, you need following conditions to
reproduce this bug:

 - run a 2.6.x kernel (as stated in other bug reports!)
 - have a libc with NTPL/TLS support
 - install the binary nvidia drivers (and make sure it setups its TLS
   libraries)

Then, for some reason, XMMS does this (not) funny thing right after
libGL.so.1 has been loaded.
=20
> Moreover Josip Rodin seems pretty away currently.

ACK

> > Personally, I would remove that mikmod plugin completely and replace the
> > Recommends: entry with xmms-modplug. Why? The plugin is crap. No control
> > options, no information box, not even the progress bar is working.
> > xmms-modplug and its library need only few kilobytes more, but provide
> > all those features, and better sound quality and are not crashing in
> > that way.
>=20
> According to xmms-modplug, xmms is not required. I am not sure that
> putting a such Recommands is really obvious.

It is not required because there is a very simple player application
included in the package which is supposed to do the same thing as xmms
(though, it has very limited features).

Regards,
Eduard.
--=20
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