Using Wine without programming

Asked by John Sumner

I'm trying hard to move away from Microsoft Windows and have installed Ubuntu 10.4, but keep coming across a brick wall. It seems many programs and utilities not initially installed with Ubuntu, require the attention of either a programmer (which I'm not) or are more suitable for Ubuntu Techies - I want to use my PC, not play with it.

I need to run 2 Windows programs of which there does not appear to be Linux alternatives, so I installed Wine. I can find no help with the program (except one Help button which didn't work), and the official documentation is completely beyond my understanding (and I'm not new to PC's).
So my question before running back to Windows screaming is - Is it possible to use Wine without any programming?

There must be millions of PC users out there who are put off using Ubuntu because it's too technical. Although I don't like Microsoft, Windows is easy to use.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Ubuntu is very eas to use, it is designed that way. Your needs may dictate that you must run Windows. Linux is not always the answer. There is no "programming" in a standard install of Ubuntu, you may need to edit a conf file here or there but there is certainly zero programming required for standard use.

What apps are you trying to use in wine and what do the apps do/achieve? There is zero programming also needed in wine. I am baffled where you are getting this notion from.

Windows is only"easier" as you have used it a damn sight longer than you have used Ubuntu so comparing both is not a fair test. If you use Ubuntu as long as you have used Windows you will find Ubuntu easy also.

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John Sumner (johnhsumner) said :
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I agree, Ubuntu is easy to use, providing you eventually get it set up for your needs. But that's the problem. Most Help is appalling compared to Windows and mostly seems to be aimed at technical people and those helping to product the system, which of course is what's it's all about. OK, 'programming' was the wrong word to use, but the need for the 'average' PC user to start playing around with config and other files is not the way to encourage new users to Linux. Most will definitely be put off by this. This is my 3rd attempt at using using Ubunto - versions 7, 8 and now 10, and while the latest version is vastly better, it still has a long way to go to be completely user friendly.

I'm a web designer, so the need for Dreamweaver is a must - no, Scribus comes no where near. I also use Family Historian, arguably the best genealogy program under Windows, but there is nothing good enough under Linux. So Wine is important (unless there is a more friendly program which I haven't found yet). I would also like to use my Windows Accounts program until the end of the financial year, and then change to a Linux alternative.

As regards to using Wine, I would suggest someone look at the program from the novice's point of view. There is nothing to help you understand what to do, just nothing. Just what were the programmers thinking of?

I would like a larger mouse cursor. I eventually found something suitable and pressed the 'Download' button and was left in mid-air wondering what had, or would happen. I suppose it's another case of fiddling about with a config file, but there was nothing to say so. Forums suggested many options (involving playing with files - but without adequate information), many of which were reported as not working - so have I tried them, definitely NOT.

And then there is the webcam to get sorted. Probably yet more files to be edited.

I'm glad I opted for the 'dual-boot' option when installing Ubunto. Had I selected the 'Ubuntu only' option, I would be completely in the ****, and my business would be right up the creek.

Having said all that, I wish Ubunto all the best. We need you - but only when you are more friendly.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver

Forwine help check the appdb. It lists all the tested games under various linuxes and various different versions of wine:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&sTitle=Browse%20Applications&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true

Probably you will ned to tweak some stuff but you are forgetting that this is not Linuxes fault. Dumb shortsighted companies ONLY support Windows (Dreamweaver and your Accounts software as two examples). They get more cash by supporting the Windows OS. Unfortunately this knocks onto other OSes (like Linux). If Adobe and whoever makes your software supported not-Windows it would be fine.

Companys like mozilla, nvidia, ati ALL fully support Linux and these items have no problems. The falt is not Wine or Linux's but the shoddy support from the apps and hardware you are choosing to use. Its really that simple.

The OS is also called UBUNTU, not Ubunto.

Dreamweaver MX 2004 gets a platinum rating:
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1810

Funny how Windows apps can be ran on Linux bt if you want to use Linux apps on Windows you must compile if their isn't native port.

Pressure your software manufacturers to support Linux and they will laugh. Ask the community to add functionality / some form of app and it wil be listened to and considered (but may still be ignored but it will be listened to).

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Christian Dannie Storgaard (cybolic) said :
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Also Scribus is, as far as I know, not meant to be a web design program. Try checking out KompoZer (http://www.kompozer.net/).
For genealogy, you should try Gramps (http://gramps-project.org)

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