Update manager, Package information

You have also an alternative way to check and be sure your computer is fully updated/upgraded

Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:
(if the system ask you a password give your user password, you will not see nothing when you type it, then press enter)

sudo dpkg --configure -a

then to update and upgrade and also check pending or missing packages, still using terminal type:

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove

Hope this helps

Nuts, It doesn't seem to have worked.

I followed your instructions and things seemed to be happening....as in
more lines would come up on the terminal.

When I went back to Update Manager I still got the same message "Package
info last updated 33 days ago." I re-booted the computer and still got
the same message.

Update manager says my system is up to date BUT it also says the package
info is out of date. When I push the "Check" button it tells me it
could not download all repository indexes. My logic tells me that
because the package info is out of date my computer must also be out of
date. And, because I can't update package info I won't ever be able to
update my computer.

Thanks,

Wayne

On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 21:49 +0000, marcobra wrote:
> Your question #64147 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> marcobra proposed the following answer:
> You have also an alternative way to check and be sure your computer is
> fully updated/upgraded
>
> Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:
> (if the system ask you a password give your user password, you will not see nothing when you type it, then press enter)
>
>
> sudo dpkg --configure -a
>
> then to update and upgrade and also check pending or missing packages,
> still using terminal type:
>
> sudo apt-get -f install
> sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
> sudo apt-get clean
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> sudo apt-get clean
> sudo apt-get autoremove
>
> Hope this helps
>

Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:
(if the system ask you a password give your user password, you will not see nothing when you type it, then press enter)

sudo apt-get update

please copy and paste the result here...

Thank you

Yes, I am still having the problem. The problem hasn't changed but I
might not have described it properly at first.

Wayne

On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 21:48 +0000, Wayne H. wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Answered => Open
>
> You are still having a problem:
> Nuts, It doesn't seem to have worked.
>
> I followed your instructions and things seemed to be happening....as in
> more lines would come up on the terminal.
>
> When I went back to Update Manager I still got the same message "Package
> info last updated 33 days ago." I re-booted the computer and still got
> the same message.
>
> Update manager says my system is up to date BUT it also says the package
> info is out of date. When I push the "Check" button it tells me it
> could not download all repository indexes. My logic tells me that
> because the package info is out of date my computer must also be out of
> date. And, because I can't update package info I won't ever be able to
> update my computer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 21:49 +0000, marcobra wrote:
> > Your question #64147 on Ubuntu changed:
> > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/64147
> >
> > Status: Open => Answered
> >
> > marcobra proposed the following answer:
> > You have also an alternative way to check and be sure your computer is
> > fully updated/upgraded
> >
> > Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:
> > (if the system ask you a password give your user password, you will not see nothing when you type it, then press enter)
> >
> >
> > sudo dpkg --configure -a
> >
> > then to update and upgrade and also check pending or missing packages,
> > still using terminal type:
> >
> > sudo apt-get -f install
> > sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
> > sudo apt-get clean
> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo apt-get upgrade
> > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
> > sudo apt-get clean
> > sudo apt-get autoremove
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
>

But if you have still this issue the sudo apt-get update command must give you some error please report the result of that command here simply copy and paste from terminal.

Thank you

I'm not sure if my copy and paste worked. I'm not good at this. If it
did, good. If not below is copied an abbreviated hand copied version.

This is the notice in the drop down box.

Could not download all repository indexes

Repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because
of network problems.........etc......Check your network connections and
ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct. (Idon't
know what the correct one should be but I changed nothing and everything
else works so I assume its ok)

In the info box.

Failed to fetch HTTP://us
archive.ubuntu.com/uuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted
source/sources-9z404not found [ip:91-189-88-31-80. (several more lines
of similar entries)
(Last line)
Some files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used
instead.

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:32 +0000, marcobra wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> marcobra requested for more information:
> But if you have still this issue the sudo apt-get update command must
> give you some error please report the result of that command here simply
> copy and paste from terminal.
>
> Thank you
>

I think I attached the errors. Hope this helps. My update manager says
the data was last updated 41 days ago.

Thanks,

Wayne

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:32 +0000, marcobra wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> marcobra requested for more information:
> But if you have still this issue the sudo apt-get update command must
> give you some error please report the result of that command here simply
> copy and paste from terminal.
>
> Thank you
>

I have sent you additional information about the problem. I have not
heard anything back. Is it being worked on?

Thanks, Wayne

On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 22:32 +0000, marcobra wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> marcobra requested for more information:
> But if you have still this issue the sudo apt-get update command must
> give you some error please report the result of that command here simply
> copy and paste from terminal.
>
> Thank you
>

THe only thought that came to mind was the "time zone." make sure, the time is up to date. I had a similar problem and the time was the cause of it.

hope it helps.
jorge

Jorge,

The time zone was in error, so I reset it to Eastern Us, New York which
is the same zone as Annapolis, Md where we live. Unfortunately, it
didn't fix the problem. The notice says my package information was last
updated 58 days ago. I hit the "Check" button on the update screen and
I get the error report that I forwarded in an earlier email.

I also set the time signal to NTP for auto update. And I re-booted the
computer, to no avail.

Thanks for the help but we're not there yet. I still get updates and
install all of them. This process appears to be working properly. It's
just the package info (whatever that is) that seems to be the problem.

Wayne

On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 00:53 +0000, FajardXorg wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> FajardXorg proposed the following answer:
>
> THe only thought that came to mind was the "time zone." make sure, the time is up to date. I had a similar problem and the time was the cause of it.
>
> hope it helps.
> jorge
>

This question was expired because it remained in the 'Open' state without activity for the last 15 days.

The problem is still very much in evidence. The update register ( or
whatever) has not been updated in something like 80 days. I still get
updates and install them but something is wrong if I still get the
notices.

Thanks,

Wayne

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 05:36 +0000, Launchpad Janitor wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Expired
>
> Launchpad Janitor expired the question:
> This question was expired because it remained in the 'Open' state
> without activity for the last 15 days.
>

Wayne,
the output you gave a while ago shows Feisty 7.04:
Failed to fetch HTTP://us
archive.ubuntu.com/uuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted

but you said in your entry you run Hardy.

Please open a terminal and post the output of:
lsb_release -d

Please open sources.list, copy&paste the complete content here.
gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

Please open system administration -> software properties
check if the download server is the main server of Ubuntu, not any other.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Sources4.png

And don't worry about many updates since you didn't update for a while.

Reference:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto

####
###Example of a 'clean' sources.list for Hardy

## Ubuntu supported packages
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted

## Ubuntu community supported packages
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse
#deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse

## Canonical's 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
## offered by Canonical
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse

Thank you for your help....but.

I'm a real novice. I'm don't know how to open a terminal or what you
mean by that. Also, sources.list. Could you point me in the right
direction.

I opened the "Software sources" and changed from the us server to the
main ubuntu server. I got a download of updates and thought I was
updating all the way. Unfortunately it stopped and gave the message as
before "Could not download all repository indexes" and showed what I
sent before. I noticed the feisty. I updated from that when Hardy was
released. This problem started after I'd unplugged the computer for 3
weeks and then re-connected it. Up till then updates were normal.

Thanks for your help,

Wayne

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 21:55 +0000, Sam wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Sam requested for more information:
> Wayne,
> the output you gave a while ago shows Feisty 7.04:
> Failed to fetch HTTP://us
> archive.ubuntu.com/uuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted
>
> but you said in your entry you run Hardy.
>
> Please open a terminal and post the output of:
> lsb_release -d
>
> Please open sources.list, copy&paste the complete content here.
> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Please open system administration -> software properties
> check if the download server is the main server of Ubuntu, not any other.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Sources4.png
>
> And don't worry about many updates since you didn't update for a while.
>
> Reference:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
>
>
> ####
> ###Example of a 'clean' sources.list for Hardy
>
> ## Ubuntu supported packages
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
>
> ## Ubuntu community supported packages
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe
>
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse
>
> ## Canonical's 'partner' repository.
> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
> ## offered by Canonical
> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
>
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse
>

Wayne,
since your answer to marcobra's suggestion from 2009-03-14
>Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:...
was:
>I followed your instructions and things seemed to be happening....as in
more lines would come up on the terminal.

I thought you knew what a terminal is and what 'sudo' means.
Please take note:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnomeTerminal
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal

btw.
Please make sure not to run more than one package management at a time, either run graphical tools (GUI) e.g. Synaptic or use the command line interface (CLI) e.g. Gnome Terminal. The command line is preferable when it comes down to fix issues, because it provides help commands and error messages.

Gedit is a text editor, the command mentioned above will open the file sources.list (the packages list which tells package management from where what to download.)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gedit

Yes, I'm a novice. The way I used terminal was not the way you do.

  Here is the info you requested. It doesn't look like a "clean"
sources list to me.

I am using the main Ubuntu server now but was using the us server until
a few days ago.

Wayne

sailmates@computer-desktop:~$ lsb_release -d
Description: Ubuntu 8.04.2
sailmates@computer-desktop:~$ sources.list
bash: sources.list: command not found
sailmates@computer-desktop:~$ gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

 See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the
Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as
to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the
Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as
to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the
'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it
includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful
features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any
review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main
restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main
restricted universe multiverse

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates restricted main
multiverse universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security multiverse

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 21:55 +0000, Sam wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Sam requested for more information:
> Wayne,
> the output you gave a while ago shows Feisty 7.04:
> Failed to fetch HTTP://us
> archive.ubuntu.com/uuntu/dists/feisty-backports/restricted
>
> but you said in your entry you run Hardy.
>
> Please open a terminal and post the output of:
> lsb_release -d
>
> Please open sources.list, copy&paste the complete content here.
> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Please open system administration -> software properties
> check if the download server is the main server of Ubuntu, not any other.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Sources4.png
>
> And don't worry about many updates since you didn't update for a while.
>
> Reference:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
>
>
> ####
> ###Example of a 'clean' sources.list for Hardy
>
> ## Ubuntu supported packages
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates main restricted
>
> ## Ubuntu community supported packages
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy universe
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates universe
>
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiverse
> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse
> #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse
>
> ## Canonical's 'partner' repository.
> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
> ## offered by Canonical
> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
>
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiverse
>

Sam,

After screwing up my courage I followed your very concise directions and
it appears to have worked. Update manager shows I'm up to date.

I have another question that I hope you can help me with. My computer
is old and slow but is much slower recently. I have a 10G hard drive and
256 MB of ram. I checked disc usage and I have over 1.5G in mail
cache. How do I purge this stuff. It's slowing my computer to a crawl.
There are many other files that are large and also plugging up my
computer. FYI I have no picture files a only a few text documents
filed. I routinely purge cache with every closing of Mozilla after
surfing the web.

Thanks for your help.

Wayne

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 20:24 +0000, Sam wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Sam proposed the following answer:
> Wayne,
> thanks for the information, well done.
> Not a big problem though, you just may comment the two lines with feisty-backports.
> Comment means this symbol #, or one can say to comment out a line, means this line wont be considered by the package manager.
> Hence you need to open sources.list with administration privileges in order to access and edit the file.
> Please open the terminal and make sure Synaptic isn't running.
>
> Before editing any system files it's recommended to make a copy of the original one.
> Command is:
> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
>
> Edit the file.
> Command to open:
> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> You'll be asked to type your password (the same which is required e.g. for Synaptic).
> You'll not see any stars or alike, you'll type blind, but the password will still be recognized, then press [Enter] to continue.
>
> These lines need to be commented out:
> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
>
> Save and close the file when done.
>
> Now try to update packages list again and upgrade using the terminal:
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> If errors occur try:
> sudo dpkg --configure -a
> sudo apt-get -f install
>
> Clean up:
> sudo apt-get clean
> sudo apt-get autoclean
> sudo apt-get autoremove
>

Hi Wayne,
congratulations, well done.
This
>256 MB of ram
is a little less for flawless work these days. Since the computer is old, it's up to you considering to buy another RAM stick with another 256MB or switching to one with 512MB, also in case a professional needs to provide the upgrade. It's a matter of cost-benefit ratio.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

Option to work flawless with 256MB RAM would be in case to remove Compiz (3D acceleration+visual effects) completely and use Metacity (default GNOME window manager).

I don't use a static mail application, but any mail app provides an option to clean up mails e.g. within a 'trash' or whatever it calls. Means, when you remove a mail to the trash, it still exists, unless you remove it also from the trash.
The same with 'normal' computer files, if you 'move' it to the trash, you didn't 'remove' it,
e.g. unless you bring your trash at home to the according facility, the trash remains at home.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution

However, 'huge' (subjective of the user) files are kernel images. An upgrade of a kernel image won't remove automatically the former one, because of security reasons if the new kernel image fails. It's recommended to keep at least two or three.
Since you have Hardy and if you didn't remove manually until now, assuming there are kernel images from -19 to -24 in /boot/
e.g. the latest three are:
2.6.24-22-generic
2.6.24-23-generic
2.6.24-24-generic
In case you wish to remove former images open Synaptic (link was mentioned above)
Search inbox:
linux-image
linux-headers
This will present a list in the right window, depending on your colour config, installed packages are underlined with a different colour.
Read and remove with caution, DON'T remove the latest images, if uncertain don't do anything.

What else is harmless to remove?
##although they don't take considerable space and concerning you didn't use Hardy for a longer time

open Nautilus press ctrl+H (to view hidden folders)
navigate to e.g.
.thumbnails/ ##remove all files until current month
.nautilus/ ##remove all session files until current month - DON'T remove any metafiles

add:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Diet%20Ubuntu

I followed the instructions and the problem was fixed. Sam was astute enough to recognize that I'm not too computer savvy and gave a very good step by step answer that worked.

Thanks for your help,

Wayne

Sam,

Thanks for the reply, You answered one question I had as to what
happens when I get an update. I understand you to say that the old
version stays around. Are they ever cleaned out by the Ubuntu upgrade
system or must it be done manually?

This is a continuation and refinement of my question about clearing out
cache.
I think this email is a pollution of the Ubuntu help system and I hope I
don't upset anybody.

I went to "Accessories" and then to "Disk Usage Analyzer"
There I learned that I had 1.5G (To put this in perspective, all the
programs etc. in my computer are only 6G so 1.5G is 25% of my programs.)
in cache under the Evolution program. I figured out how to open the file
of "Cache" and how to send each of the files to "Trash", which did.
The 1.5G of "Cache" "is gone but it won't go away because I now have
1.5G in a "Trash" file which is under "Sailmates" (that's my user
name) , .Local, share, Trash. I can't figure out how to empty this
"Trash". The "Empty Trash" choice is not highlighted. When I try to
get rid of the "Trash" file by using "Empty Trash" it is not allowed
(Which makes sense.)

It appears that the stuff that goes to the Evolution "Cache" file are
attachments to emails and perhaps the email and the attachment. Today,
I received an email with an attachment and when I deleted the email it
went to email trash but the attachment showed up in "Cache".

Thanks for your help,

Wayne

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 15:50 +0000, Sam wrote:
> Your question #64147 on update-manager in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64147
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> Sam proposed the following answer:
> Hi Wayne,
> congratulations, well done.
> This
> >256 MB of ram
> is a little less for flawless work these days. Since the computer is old, it's up to you considering to buy another RAM stick with another 256MB or switching to one with 512MB, also in case a professional needs to provide the upgrade. It's a matter of cost-benefit ratio.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
>
> Option to work flawless with 256MB RAM would be in case to remove Compiz
> (3D acceleration+visual effects) completely and use Metacity (default
> GNOME window manager).
>
> I don't use a static mail application, but any mail app provides an option to clean up mails e.g. within a 'trash' or whatever it calls. Means, when you remove a mail to the trash, it still exists, unless you remove it also from the trash.
> The same with 'normal' computer files, if you 'move' it to the trash, you didn't 'remove' it,
> e.g. unless you bring your trash at home to the according facility, the trash remains at home.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Evolution
>
> However, 'huge' (subjective of the user) files are kernel images. An upgrade of a kernel image won't remove automatically the former one, because of security reasons if the new kernel image fails. It's recommended to keep at least two or three.
> Since you have Hardy and if you didn't remove manually until now, assuming there are kernel images from -19 to -24 in /boot/
> e.g. the latest three are:
> 2.6.24-22-generic
> 2.6.24-23-generic
> 2.6.24-24-generic
> In case you wish to remove former images open Synaptic (link was mentioned above)
> Search inbox:
> linux-image
> linux-headers
> This will present a list in the right window, depending on your colour config, installed packages are underlined with a different colour.
> Read and remove with caution, DON'T remove the latest images, if uncertain don't do anything.
>
> What else is harmless to remove?
> ##although they don't take considerable space and concerning you didn't use Hardy for a longer time
>
> open Nautilus press ctrl+H (to view hidden folders)
> navigate to e.g.
> .thumbnails/ ##remove all files until current month
> .nautilus/ ##remove all session files until current month - DON'T remove any metafiles
>