How do you set up Ubuntu Classic in Ubuntu 11.10 - not possible

Asked by ernest

I downgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 about 13 hours ago and have spent the time in between rebuilding my system so it was usable. I'm sure there are some people out there who find the Widgets useful, but I find them a total waste of time as they take me several clicks to do what used to be only two clicks in my previous set up.

I always personalise my set up to use a colour setting that suits my eye and a set of menus that makes it damned easy to find what i want in the way of apps. I did NOT like having the system dump all the apps into one big widget pile that needed several clicks just to find anything. I tried to find how I could set up for the Ubuntu Classic set up, but failed to find it, maybe I think different to the designers.

Thus, I need a set of clear instructions on how I can set up the Ubuntu Classic Desktop appearance with Clearlooks and carry my personal settings across the change from 11.04 to 11.10, please. I need my menus and not a bunch of widgets or fancy 3D space wasters.

Ernest

update - not solvable, but told it's not possible to do as Gnome 3 doesn't have the capability

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enubuntu (mr.tennents) said :
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You can't use anymore Ubuntu Classic. Now you can use Ubuntu with Unity 3D or 2D, or you can install gnome-shell. You can also use the fallback mode of gnome-shell that looks similar to Ubuntu Classic but it's not it.

For install gnome shell do this:
1. Open a terminal by hitting CTRL + ALT + T
2. Insert and run this command:
sudo apt-get install gnome-shell

For install gnome-fallback-mode do this:
1. Open a terminal by hitting CTRL + ALT + T
2. Insert and run this command:
sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

Then log out and select "GNOME Classic" for the gnome fallback session or "Gnome Shell" for gnome shell at the LightDM login screen.

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enubuntu (mr.tennents) said :
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ernest (ernest-bywater) said :
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Thanks for the reply, so the answer is the development team has said "Screw you if you don't like Widgets." Is that it. The standard Gnome desktop does NOT do what I want, that's why I used Ubuntu Classic in 11.04. It seems I'll be staying with 11.04 from now on, or going to something other than Ubuntu that allows me to use the system how I want.

Why has the development team started following the Microsoft method of telling us what we'll get, instead of allowing us to have what we want, which is what brought us to Ubuntu in the first place?

I don't want or need fancy graphics to do basic word processing, web browsing and emails. Any fancy graphics I need to do is all done within an application that has all the fancy graphics for what it does, so why bury a desktop in it!!

Oh, well. Looks like I stay with 11.04 and wait to see if they come back to their senses for 12.04.

Thanks,

Ernest

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enubuntu (mr.tennents) said :
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No, you can't get back Ubuntu Classic of Ubuntu 11.04 because it wokrs with gnome2. Now we have gnome3. If you want gnome2 you have to use another Linux OS (Like Linux Mint), but it's not for longer time because all the OS will use gnome3 soon as possible.
If the question was solved please mark as solved.

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ernest (ernest-bywater) said :
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Thanks Enrico,

I still can't understand the mindset that decided to remove the ability to have the Ubuntu Classic desktop, be because the Ubuntu team decided to make changes so it wouldn't work, or because the Gnome team made changes to see it doesn't work. It just seems to be the trend now days, lets make changes that destroys the older style capabilities and force everyone into fancy graphics they don't want. Microsoft did it with Vista and Win 7, the same happened with KDE and now Gnome, everyone is jumping on the widget bandwagon and saying 'stuff you if you don't want widgets.'

Well, the problem isn't solved, but it's answered in that I'm told it can no longer be done due to development decisions destroying the capability. It's this sort of behaviour that makes people like me move to another OS and tell people that using the one I used to use is a waste of time as it's now rubbish. I work with lots of older people and they just cannot deal with the huge change going from a simple easy to sue menu to a crowded widget creates, that's why i have my system set up to mimic what they use, as it makes it easier to use their systems. Where Ubuntu Classic allows me to have menus so I reach any app in two or three clicks (three for rarely sued ones), the new widget set up requires six or seven clicks and I have to dig through hundred piled into the one window or use more clicks to use poorly designed filters to sort them according to someone else's idea of a filter sort.

There should be a button that says 'Not solved as it's not solvable.' That's what applies in this case.

Due to the info received, I'm marking thsi as solved under duress due to the fact it isn't solved.

Ernest

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Bob Bib (bobbib) said :
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Heh, maybe it's a fine moment to start a some kind of a user vote / poll /petition signing campaign etc.
GNOME 3 and Unity are strange things probably aimed only at tablet computers.

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ernest (ernest-bywater) said :
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I would, if I knew how to do it in a suitable manner.

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ernest (ernest-bywater) said :
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G'day all,

well, I just got an email saying this bug is confirmed invalid and it means I'm confirmed as no longer using or recommending Ubuntu to anyone. The move from userfriendly menus and desktops for computer screens to handle held screen widgets in both the KDE and Gnome versions of Ubuntu means I no longer support or recommend Ubuntu to anyone for any reason. no to go looking for a version of Linux that doesn't use widgets. If all else fails I'll go back to using something stable and sane, say Windows 98SE.

Goodbye, and thanks for nothing.

Regards,

Ernest