Are you people trying to make it worse than WINDOWS ?

Rather I back up the first poster here. 12.04 will NOT install !! I've now tried it on three comps and not one would it work on.

I thought the original CD I downloaded and created may have been flawed so I did it again last night. Burned a new CD and tried again this morning.

Same result. Will NOT install !!

Please - when you say 'will not install' - could you give us a bit more information? What exactly are you trying? Firstly, you have to boot from the CD. Are you doing this? If you are, then what exactly do you see during the boot process? If you are booting from the CD and it actually fails to let you run a working version of Ubuntu from the CD (recommended). Then we need to know a lot more about your hardware.

Installing means exactly that. From scratch taking up all or a part of the hard drive. Anything else probably should go by a different name. Installing may well cause serious data lossd. That should be an accepted fact. All serious computer users back up all their data very regularly and certainly perform a full backup before attempting a major operation link a change to a new operating system.

Please tell us a whole lot more after you have checked the integrity of your todays backup - we can help.

Barry bluntly this is about the sixth or seventh version of Ubuntu I've installed on various comps.

This is the first time I've ever had a problem.

It does the usual boot from the CD, goes through a couple of screens to the Try or Install screen. Tell it to install and it goes through the usual stuff. Then apparently does what it's supposed to until right at the end when it gives a black screen with a few lines of text finishing up with "File system installed (OK)

Then nothing !! It just sits there.

You reboot and it want's to install or if you change the boot to the normal floppy it will sit there saying checking DMA and nothing happens.

Sorry - all the folk I've been talking to are real newbies. Can you get the live-CD to run Ubuntu from the disk? Can you still boot into 11.10? Last time I had the same thing happen, it did actually boot into the newly installed system but had a couple of broken packages. Believe it or not that was on 11.10 beta.

the live cd is marginal but will work.

Right now I've wiped the offending drive and am installing 11.10

If that works correctly then we can say the 12.04 distro sucks. !!

OK Barry

I've done as I said before a lot of these Ubuntu installs.

Right now I'm doing 11.10 and quite bluntly you folks have blown it badly.

Luckily for me I have a bit of knowledge about file formats etc. Because while earlier versions just did their thing and you didn't have to answer arcane questions 11.10 and later seem filled with questions the average user can't answer, like what File Format do you want ??

I mean c'mon !! You want to replace Windows you gotta be simpler not more complex !!

And the earlier versions where simpler to install and basically use. You're really going the wrong direction now !!

OK Barry 11.10 has installed and seems to be OK. I've been offered an update to 12.04 and will try that in a day or two.

My experience with Ubuntu is that it can be really quite good or a pain in the ass.

The later versions are mostly the latter types !!

So let's have you planning folks really go back to the drawing board and think about where this project is going ??

Because right now I'd say it's going off the rails !!

Please DON'T use the updater's offer to upgrade. If it didn't install properly on your hardware, it isn't going to upgrade. But I have to say you are the first person I've heard from who hasn't been able to get a clean install (including re-formattting) to work OK. Upgrading using the updater has sometimes been fatal and never should have got out in my view - although it is successful for a large number of users. Those of us who have been using 12.04 for a while find it fantastic. I wouldn't turn the clock back. It is not even more complex. Installing it on my netbook took me less than twenty minutes and everything worked out of the box far better than 11.10 which caused problems in quite a few areas.

I installed 12.04 alpha 1 on my desktop alongside 11.10 and almost never went back to 11.10 right through the development process.

I'm sorry you've had this problem - I wish you were able to tell us more so we could fix it. As I say, on the vast majority of hardware, the problem you are seeing just does not exist. It is almost certainly down to the video driver. There are known problems with a few nvidia cards. These will be fixed now they are known about. Please file a bug that gives full details of your video system using lshw so the developers can cover your card.

*I do not know if it will boot to the older system yet ! ! . . I will
have to try and see if I can get it to go back maybe under recovery . .
I have the DVD of 11.10 and I can boot to that and re install while at
the Library has faster WiFi than the 139 KBPS I get from cox sucks cable
! ! . . and get about 90 % of it done in one day plus putting stuff back
on the drive from the USB Hard drive
I am copying stuff to USB Hard drive now *

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On 04/30/2012 10:30 AM, Barry Drake wrote:
> Your question #195420 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/195420
>
> Barry Drake requested more information:
> Sorry - all the folk I've been talking to are real newbies. Can you get
> the live-CD to run Ubuntu from the disk? Can you still boot into 11.10?
> Last time I had the same thing happen, it did actually boot into the
> newly installed system but had a couple of broken packages. Believe it
> or not that was on 11.10 beta.
>

*Well you have not got about 6 or 7 reports from my computer on programs
which crashed that is the number of screens which said sending report to
Ubuntu to get something fixed *( I did not click on Details to see why i
crashed )

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*Disgruntled Vets Web Site
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*Once you know the flame on the candle is fire, has not the dinner been
cooked !*
*Lynne Stevens*

On 04/30/2012 12:05 PM, Barry Drake wrote:
> Your question #195420 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/195420
>
> Barry Drake requested more information:
> Please DON'T use the updater's offer to upgrade. If it didn't install
> properly on your hardware, it isn't going to upgrade. But I have to say
> you are the first person I've heard from who hasn't been able to get a
> clean install (including re-formattting) to work OK. Upgrading using
> the updater has sometimes been fatal and never should have got out in my
> view - although it is successful for a large number of users. Those of
> us who have been using 12.04 for a while find it fantastic. I wouldn't
> turn the clock back. It is not even more complex. Installing it on my
> netbook took me less than twenty minutes and everything worked out of
> the box far better than 11.10 which caused problems in quite a few
> areas.
>
> I installed 12.04 alpha 1 on my desktop alongside 11.10 and almost never
> went back to 11.10 right through the development process.
>
> I'm sorry you've had this problem - I wish you were able to tell us more
> so we could fix it. As I say, on the vast majority of hardware, the
> problem you are seeing just does not exist. It is almost certainly down
> to the video driver. There are known problems with a few nvidia cards.
> These will be fixed now they are known about. Please file a bug that
> gives full details of your video system using lshw so the developers can
> cover your card.
>

*I downloaded the file from Virtual Box for 12.04 and clicked on it to
get the menu said to open it that opened **Ubuntu Software center which
said t was trying to install the program . . about 1/4 the way through
it stopped and said failure to install and quit doing installation Means
I can not open bleeping windows crap to use a program in windows *

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*Lynne Stevens*

On 04/30/2012 09:55 AM, Barry Drake wrote:
> Your question #195420 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/195420
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Barry Drake requested more information:
> Please - when you say 'will not install' - could you give us a bit
> more information? What exactly are you trying? Firstly, you have to
> boot from the CD. Are you doing this? If you are, then what exactly do
> you see during the boot process? If you are booting from the CD and it
> actually fails to let you run a working version of Ubuntu from the CD
> (recommended). Then we need to know a lot more about your hardware.
>
> Installing means exactly that. From scratch taking up all or a part of
> the hard drive. Anything else probably should go by a different name.
> Installing may well cause serious data lossd. That should be an
> accepted fact. All serious computer users back up all their data very
> regularly and certainly perform a full backup before attempting a major
> operation link a change to a new operating system.
>
> Please tell us a whole lot more after you have checked the integrity of
> your todays backup - we can help.
>

Brady thanks for the info.

Note this please:

11;10 installed on the same HD in the same machine that 12.04 would not !!

Which simply tells me there is something very much wrong with the 12:04 Iso I've downloaded twice !!

Back to you !

Amount of RAM has ZERO bearing on ability to crash. There are a lot of updates here, what is the present situation?

I'm not denying that something is wrong. Obviously there is. What is wrong is in the way in which 12.04 interacts with your particular hardware and we have no way of knowing what that is unless you are willing to help us. The most likely issue is with the video chipset an we haven't a clue what that might be, or if there might be other bits of hardware that are affected. Statements such as: "the live cd is marginal but will work." which you offer don't really give us any clues.

We don't need to 'get back to the drawing board' as you put it because the vast majority of users have 12.04 running perfectly. We'd obviously like it to work for 100% of the folk out there, but unless you are willing to give us help, it just is not possible. As you know, Ubuntu is a project that works only because a vast community of volunteers co-operate to help.

Barry in a word BS

Look it worked OK for 11.10, so why not 12.04 ??

I'll tell you why in a succinct word. Screwup !! You have changed the necessary info that people have to have to get things to install !!

Asus A7N8X Mb
Nvidis GE6200 video card
1.25 Gig of RAM
Athlon 1.25 Ghz cpu.

Funny it works like a charm on XP, Win 7 and others but doesn't like Ub 12.04 isn't it ??

 I meant it when I said go back to the drawing board, figure out why things like Ub 8.04 install with no problems at all and yet your latest versions are a pain in the ass !!

The lady who started this thread was right !!! You've lost the plot !

Windows is a completely different OS, with completely different support. So what Windows does or doesn't do is of zero value.

Did you try a clean install of Ubuntu, rather than upgrading? Did you try KUbuntu or xubuntu to sidestep Unity etc? The newer versions of Ubuntu have later kernels and later drivers so will have differnet issues than the older versions. All releases have issues, as do all versions of Windows.

All I can do is apologise big time and report that it will get fixed. Thank you for letting me know the details of your video adaptor. There are known issues with a few nvidia cards and yours has not so far been reported.

Berry

Same HD

Low level format, install single DOS partition

Re-install 12.04

After time message

Has experienced unrecoverable error. Will run desktop to attempt recover. Desktop now running although there does seem to be some kind of problem but no sign of recovery activity.

I'd say the desktop looks correct.

Will let it run for a bit and see what happens.
Yes 11.10 had no problem with that video card.

Berry

Let 12.04 do upgrades from Ubuntu, Update Manager

Says one of them failed but refuses to show which one.

OK then says restart necessary. OK that's normal

Get the usual BIOS screens and then says

Verifying DMI Pool Data ..............

And that's it !!

Now again I reiterate !!! These installs require knowledge the average user simply doesn't have !! They should be no more complicated than say 8.04 was but these are requiring, with no guidance or suggestions, a level of knowledge almost to the geek stage!!

Wrong, wrong, wrong !!!

The unrecoverable error message says it all. Which tool did you use to format? And did you let the installer use the entire drive? If so, I think you ought to run a bootable disk tool - you can get an iso from seagate or whoever makes the drive you are loking at. Also, you might want to run memtest86. I've only ever seen unrecoverable error wneh there's bee some kind of problem. Also, could I ask why you formatted a single dos partition?

With regard to the updates, one of those was a kernel update. It could be that the later kernel is buggy on your system. If that is the case get into the grub screen - I seem to remember it's either left shift or ESC while booting to get it. You should then be allowed to choose the earlier kernel - if that solves the problem report a bug. Use Ubuntu Bug kernel to do this.

The dMI pool data is HARDWARE BASED. You can get that if you run Windows. Your DMI pool data (stored in your RAM) is full so your system hasn't even loaded Grub at that point.

Quit bashing the OS when you are flat out WRONG. To fix it, you need to power off the system and remove the power cable for half an hour. You can even go the whole hog and remove the CMOS battery. Plug the system back together and the OS will boot

Again, the stopping at DMI pool data is NOT Ubuntu.

Berry I've used this low level format tool for at least two years.

I then use a Win98 install disk and fdisk to create a DOS partition.

After that any OS can find the disk. It's normal for them to reformat and do what it wants in terms of creating partitions.

11.10 did fine !!

So why couldn't 12.04 ??

Because there is something in 12.04 that's not acceptable to this system.

DMI data is a normal line with this BIOS. It then goes on to boot what ever it can see. Apparently with 12.04 it can't see anything !!

Going back to 11.10 to see what happens.

Tell parsnip to butt out please. He's irrelevant !

It's nothing to do with Ubuntu, you get systems stopping at DMI Pool data as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn84PGW5ms

You can try and go back to 11.10 but until you clear the DMI data, you won't be able to boot even a Windows XP CD.

actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
It's nothing to do with Ubuntu, you get systems stopping at DMI Pool data as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn84PGW5ms

You can try and go back to 11.10 but until you clear the DMI data, you
won't be able to boot even a Windows XP CD.

You really, really don't know what you're talking about, do you?? I suggest butt out before you look any more irrelevant !

Berry

11.10 has upgraded 12.04 to 11.10.

That's the funny description I got in the options menu <g>

Anyway it does exactly what it's supposed to as far as I can tell including
DMI and then onto Grub.

Exactly as it should.

So I'm going to leave it for a bit.

NB All I did was put the 11.10 CD in and push a reboot and away we went. So it seems to me that it's a real problem in 12.04.

Sorry.

I'm sorry too. I'd wait a while and try a later release of the live-CD in a month or so. There's obviously something badly wrong in the way 12.04 handles your hardware. I'm sure it will get fixed because there is a lot being said about a minority of nvidia installations - but in your case, the last effort really puzzles me. An unrecoverable error during installation is something I've only seen when installing to faulty hardware - which doesn't look like the case here as you can work with 11.10 OK - OR a faulty liveCD and as you have tried burning the image a couple of time to make certain it was not faulty ... I really don't understand that.

Like I say, maybe in a couple of months you'll get a version from the testing version of 12.10 that will work for you, or you could wait till October and try the 12.10 release.

*Every thing was working ok until UPGRADE to 12.04 . . That is when
after downloading about 1.8 gig of changes and the restart**It all fell
apart gobs of programs did not work and sent out error messages to
Ubuntu . . 0r at least I thought so as a 3 inch by about 1 inch screen
came up and said gathering information to send . . had 3 buttons one was
Cancel one was Send and the last was RELAUNCH but that just made
another window of the same kind . . So you were getting a lot of error
messages from my laptop or so I thought . .
Right now sitting in the library and re Upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 .
. I have the FallBack command in a ABI file or a PDF file forgot which
to add into 11.04
DO NOT LIKE the floating icons takes to long to get a program running if
it is not on the group of Icons
*
On 05/01/2012 12:55 AM, Barry Drake wrote:
> Your question #195420 on ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+question/195420
>
> Barry Drake requested more information:
> I'm not denying that something is wrong. Obviously there is. What is
> wrong is in the way in which 12.04 interacts with your particular
> hardware and we have no way of knowing what that is unless you are
> willing to help us. The most likely issue is with the video chipset an
> we haven't a clue what that might be, or if there might be other bits of
> hardware that are affected. Statements such as: "the live cd is
> marginal but will work." which you offer don't really give us any clues.
>
> We don't need to 'get back to the drawing board' as you put it because
> the vast majority of users have 12.04 running perfectly. We'd obviously
> like it to work for 100% of the folk out there, but unless you are
> willing to give us help, it just is not possible. As you know, Ubuntu
> is a project that works only because a vast community of volunteers co-
> operate to help.
>

*I have been using Ubuntu since 8.04 and went up through all of the UP
GRADES to 10.10 NO PROBLEMS and 10.10 is rock solid does anything I ask
it to didn't wiggle jiggle or blink IT just ran ! ! . . Was clean and
efficient 11.04 was just EYE CANDY but not so great but there was a way
out of the floating Icons and use FALLBACK so it was better and still
had the upgrade . . so I pushed it and went to 11.10 . . Came out ok,.
. But several programs had to be removed shut computer down and re
install the program in order for it to work like ABI which is my go to
program for down and dirty word processing . . Had to TOTALLY REMOVE it
then shut down and re install it with the dictionary of sorts .
Then came the 12.04 LTS GEEZ ! . . almost a MS mistake of Vista and all
the things wrong that could possibly go wrong did LMAO . . I don't mean
to beat on the ones who worked on it so hard but some of the different
area's just did not fit well LOL maybe to many cooks having a hand in it .
*

On 05/01/2012 06:30 AM, actionparsnip wrote:
> Your question #195420 on ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+question/195420
>
> Status: Needs information => Answered
>
> actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
> Windows is a completely different OS, with completely different support.
> So what Windows does or doesn't do is of zero value.
>
> Did you try a clean install of Ubuntu, rather than upgrading? Did you
> try KUbuntu or xubuntu to sidestep Unity etc? The newer versions of
> Ubuntu have later kernels and later drivers so will have differnet
> issues than the older versions. All releases have issues, as do all
> versions of Windows.
>

*I have a Copy of 10.10 on CD so I copied all files, doc's, pic's,
movies, templates, and the folder on the desktop called win-crap to a
USB External Hard Drive copied the contents of the hidden folders
.mozillia and .thunderbird to the same drive did a export of book marks
( Oh yeah you have to move the ones in the tool bar to a folder like (
tb-replace) and THEN do a export or all of the ones in the tool bar will
not be exported and lost
I am now sitting in the library re upgrading to 11.04 and will put
fallback into it in about 1/2 hours from now. . Do not like the ICONS
floating around *. .

On 05/01/2012 09:50 AM, actionparsnip wrote:
> Your question #195420 on ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+question/195420
>
> actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
> It's nothing to do with Ubuntu, you get systems stopping at DMI Pool data as well
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn84PGW5ms
>
> You can try and go back to 11.10 but until you clear the DMI data, you
> won't be able to boot even a Windows XP CD.
>

Barry

OR a faulty live CD and as you have tried burning the image a couple of time to make certain it was not faulty ... I really don't understand that

Actually I did more than that. Figuring the first iso download was faulty I deleted it, downloaded the iso again and from that burned the CD.

So it looks more like either defective code or a structural problem to me. The reason I wanted 12.04 is that it is LTS.

We'll see what happens now with 11.10 ??

If you can keep me posted if you can. I can also send you a file with all the details on the system generated by cpuz if I get an email address.

Thanks - The fact that you had it working at one time and then did an update which required an restart means that is is almost certain to be a kernel problem that affects your specific hardware combination. The hardware information you have might be helpful at some stage, but what will probably happen is that the next testing version for 12.10 will have fixed your problem in a new kernel. You might not choose to go down that path ... Anyhow, thanks for your patience and for the valuable information you have supplied. Sorry 12.04 is not for you.

Barry

You still refuse to address my point. Ubuntu is releasing stuff to the general public that requires rather specific knowledge !!! eg what format to format the HD. ?? Not many users are going to know what to specify or in the case of 12.04 where the choice even is !!

Having specified ReseirF for 12.04 then it was used to upgrade 11.10 !! Which if I'm not mistaken is the same format earlier versions used which wasn't an option.

No if you want to replace Windows the system must be both easier and more user friendly than the latest Windows, which by the way isn't hard to do !! That said 11.10 just isn't and I suspect 12.04 is even worse !!

Barry

Remember telling me not to allow 11.10 to upgrade to 12.04 via the net ??

BAD advice.

Since i know how to remove or recreate OS's I decided to let it try.

Guess what ????

As far as I can tell right now it works like a charm. With the speed of my connection it took a little over an hour but the result works just fine !!

So live and learn and that also means there is something wrong with the iso doesn't it ??

If you care to look at the other questions folk have posted, some can do the upgrade with the updater and it works, but many many problems have occurred because the original system they were upgrading from has been broken and you don't notice it until after the upgrad. You are one of the lucky ones.

Is this nonsense actually going anywhere? What is the actual question here. Can the poster please clarify the issue and steer in the thread.

Barry

Sure was a surprise to me to. Still possibly because that 11.10 was a fresh install ?

Ok People lets get back to the beginning . . I have BEEN USING since 8.04 So I might have had a ton of OLD stuff and the up grades did not totally erase all the OLD STUFF ! ! . .And when I added 11.04 . . That is when things started to crash . . So some where in the upgrade and all of the OLDIE stuff that may have been there there were problems . . THIS time I ERASED the Hard drive and started over with fresh Install of 10.10 . . Back to having every thing working . . 2 days later I upgraded at the Library ( they have a 8 GIG per second line ) took longer to do the Installs after all the downloads than it did to download . . so am up to 11.04 and all works WELL . . This Friday I will go to the library and UPGRADE to 11.10 and see how things go . . BEFORE I jump and say it works . . I did tell the 80 year old it was ok to upgrade 12.04 and he is doing ok . .( So it could have been all the upgrades and stuff which was left behind ). . But he started at 10.10 NOT WAY BACK WHEN and his computer is just a tiny bit faster than my present Laptop is . . and I made him add ram to get to 4 gig so it ran faster and not use the swap as much and he likes it . . . .

Where is the question here.....?

What Barry prefers to IGNORE is that this is the same machine and HD that when the 12.04 CD was used returned "Unrecoverable Error"and crashed

Yet when up dating from the net has NO Problems !!

Ergo the iso that the CD was created from has a major error.

Look as far as I'm concerned Ubuntu has really lost the plot. I've been faithful for years but not any more.

what they seem to think is that making it more eye candy and silly "improvements" will get them greater acceptance!!

Wrong, wrong, wrong !!! Make it easier, simpler and above all else user friendly and they will get ahead !!

Right now based on 12.04 I can recommend this to NOBODY !!

90% of installed OS out there are Windows. Of that over 50% is XP. Does that tell them nothing ??

Make it easy to use and you have a winner !

Again, no question....

Andrew as far as I am concerend It is done cooked stick a fork in it .. take it to a debate room . . I am back to 11.10 today and sofar all of it works . . THIS TIME ! So just maybe I had a gob of old stuf still residing on the computer . . With the total re format and install of 10.10 and then UPGRADE to 11.04 and today to 11.10 worked SO no questions it is done finished . .

Lynne

That's it for Ubuntu as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you have followed the saga of my trying to get 12.04 installed and final success (??)

Well having got it installed and apparently running I fire it up tonight and told Firefox to go to the Weather Network. What happens, remember this thing was shut off after doing a net update, has not been touched since and just turned on normally tonight ??

What happens is it can't connect to the net !! Ask for a different site, same answer.

That's it for me !!!!!!!!!

Bye Ubuntu, you mega suck now !!

Same comp after reboot and switch to XP drive ?? Immediate connect to anything I asked for !! In other words the connection was fine, Ubuntu ain't !!

I never saw a single question. If you read any other question here it is someone with a specific issue and not some petulant rant. If you want to rant or discuss opinions and ideas, please use ubuntuforums.com

if you have a specific issue and details and and say things like 'how can I fix this please' then we can help.

actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666)

You are truly an idiot !! There has been nothing but questions throughout this thread. If you can't understand then I guess we feel sorry for you ??

Otherwise in the words of the Prophet

BUTT OUT !!!!

The set of questions are both technical and philosophical. In both cases the answers have been less than useful. Your drivel only served to distract.