I wanted to install LiveUSB-creator hosted by fedora to try fedora on my Ubuntu

Asked by Rohith Kumar

Hi,

I wanted to install LiveUSB-creator hosted by fedora to try fedora on my Ubuntu https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
I download the liveusb-creator-3.11.1.tar.bz2 (178K) file. But couldn't get how to install that. I found some commands to extract, later part, I didn't know what to do. Please anyone let me know how to install.

Till Now I have tried this

rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads$ tar jxvf liveusb-creator-3.11.1.tar.bz2
tar: Record size = 8 blocks
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb-creator
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/resources_rc.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/__init__.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/progress.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/__init__.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/mirror.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/byterange.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/grabber.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/urlgrabber/keepalive.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/gui.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/windows_dialog.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/releases.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/creator.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/olpc.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb/linux_dialog.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/Makefile
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/refresh.png
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/fedorausb.png
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/liveusb-header.png
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/resources.qrc
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/liveusb-creator.desktop
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/liveusb-creator.ui
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/data/liveusb-creator-tabbed.ui
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb-creator.spec
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/setup.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/README.txt
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb-creator.pam
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/LICENSE.txt
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/PKG-INFO
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb-creator.console
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/zh_TW.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/fr.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ko.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/nb.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/pt.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/it.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/zh_CN.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/fi.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/da.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/es.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/el.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/nds.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ru.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/en_GB.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/pa.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/th.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/he.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/mki18n.py
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/pt_BR.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/sv.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/id.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/pl.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/cs.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/fa.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ms.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ja.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/sk.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/de.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/uk.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/bn_IN.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ar.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/sr.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ast.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/ca.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/bs.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/is.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/nl.po
liveusb-creator-3.11.1/po/hu.po
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rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads$ cd liveusb-creator-3.11.1
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ ./configure
bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ ls
data liveusb-creator liveusb-creator.spec po
LICENSE.txt liveusb-creator.console Makefile README.txt
liveusb liveusb-creator.pam PKG-INFO setup.py
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ make
python setup.py sdist --format=bztar
running sdist
warning: sdist: manifest template 'MANIFEST.in' does not exist (using default file list)
writing manifest file 'MANIFEST'
creating liveusb-creator-3.11.1
creating liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
making hard links in liveusb-creator-3.11.1...
hard linking README.txt -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1
hard linking liveusb-creator -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1
hard linking setup.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1
hard linking liveusb/__init__.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/creator.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/gui.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/linux_dialog.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/olpc.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/releases.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/resources_rc.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
hard linking liveusb/windows_dialog.py -> liveusb-creator-3.11.1/liveusb
creating dist
tar -cf dist/liveusb-creator-3.11.1.tar liveusb-creator-3.11.1
bzip2 -f9 dist/liveusb-creator-3.11.1.tar
removing 'liveusb-creator-3.11.1' (and everything under it)
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ make install
make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ su
Password:
rohitsu: Authentication failure
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ rohith
rohith: command not found
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ ./make
bash: ./make: No such file or directory
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ ls
data liveusb-creator Makefile README.txt
dist liveusb-creator.console MANIFEST setup.py
LICENSE.txt liveusb-creator.pam PKG-INFO
liveusb liveusb-creator.spec po
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ cd liveusb-creator
bash: cd: liveusb-creator: Not a directory
rohith@rohith-desktop:~/Downloads/liveusb-creator-3.11.1$ Makefile
Makefile: command not found

Please let me know what to do..

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :
#1

To create a Fedora live USB using Ubuntu, you can just download a Fedora live media .iso (http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all) and write it to a USB flash drive using dd or Startup Disk Creator. (There are simple instructions for Startup Disk Creator at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download -- in Step 2, select "USB Stick" and "Ubuntu" and click "Show me how". These instructions apply to creating bootable USB flash drives for any operating system for which you have an .iso file.)

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Rohith Kumar (rohithkumar-av) said :
#2

I doub't this work. Since Fedora 15 clearly mentioned that It got its own USB creator which does Bootable USB Fedora 15... And I have Fedora 15 DVD. And I don't have DVD reader, So I must convert this DVD to ISO image so that I can try Fedora on my Ubuntu by making ISO to USB Bootable. Which however needes ISO convertion. Which I don't have any software. Please guide a software which helps me to convert the DVD to ISO, which is a cross platform software so that, People who, here are using Windows basically with their DVD can use my DVD to convert to ISO, and I may try Live USB provided by Fedora or even Unetbootin, which hardly works as I guess, since it yet to support Fedora 15.

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :
#3

"I doub't this work."

I have done it many times (with dd -- I don't myself use Startup Disk Creator, though that should work just as well), including with Fedora images. It works. It works with the images at http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all, as well as working with bootable .iso images in general.

"And I have Fedora 15 DVD. And I don't have DVD reader, So I must convert this DVD to ISO image so that I can try Fedora on my Ubuntu by making ISO to USB Bootable."

A Fedora DVD image file is a .iso file, and can be written to a USB flash drive in Ubuntu with Startup Disk Creator or dd (or other applications).

If you have a physical DVD but you do not have a computer with a DVD drive, then you cannot use that DVD, and that includes not being able to use it to create a USB flash drive. If you have a computer with a DVD drive, but you need to install on a different computer that does not have a DVD drive, then creating an .iso image on the first computer (with the DVD drive) and then writing it to a USB flash drive to use it on the second computer (without the DVD drive) is a reasonable course of action (especially if you have limited download bandwidth), though downloading the .iso image from an official download site or official torrent may be preferable because you can verify that it is good before writing it to the USB flash drive by following the procedure to ensure its checksum is correct (https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify).

To create an .iso file from a physical DVD on Ubuntu, you could use dd. (This is different from, though in some ways similar to, the way dd can be used to write an .iso file to a USB flash drive.) Make sure that the DVD is in the drive and recognized, but not mounted. Open a Terminal window and run:

sudo umount /dev/sr0
cd ~/Desktop
sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=fedora.iso
sudo chown $(whoami):$(whoami) fedora.iso

The first command ensures that the DVD is unmounted, which is desirable for this process (you're not reading files from the DVD, you're reading all the data off it sequentially). The second command enters the desktop folder. The third command rips the DVD to a bootable .iso image (assuming the DVD is bootable on a machine with a DVD drive) called fedora.iso, in the current directory (which is the Desktop, due to the previous command). This command will take a while--there is no need to worry, unless it seems to go for a significant time without accessing the DVD at all. When it finishes, it will report whether or not it succeeded and the average speed at which it ripped the DVD, and it will give you a $ _ prompt like you had when you ran each of these commands. The fourth command changes the ownership of the created .iso image so that you can access it without being root; you can replace each instance of $(whoami) with your username if you like--it is equivalent (just don't forget the colon).

On a minority of computers, the DVD drive is not called /dev/sr0, but is called something else instead. When you put the DVD in and it is recognized and automatically mounted, you can run "mount" (without the quotes) in the Terminal to see all the mounted devices, and this should reveal the device name for the DVD drive in which the Fedora DVD is inserted.

Please note that (1) the dd method detailed above is one of the standard methods for doing this, so if you have problems, you should have no trouble getting support, (2) this is not the only method for ripping a bootable DVD to make a .iso file that can be written too a USB flash drive, so if you don't like this one please feel free to ask about others, and (3) this method will often not work for copy-protected DVD's which includes some commercial, proprietary films and video games (this is not a problem for operating system DVD's like Fedora's).

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Rohith Kumar (rohithkumar-av) said :
#4

I have a operating system DVD, which I thought that I can convert it to ISO image from another system having DVD Drive. Than that ISO to make it Bootable USB Live or install through Bootable USB option given in Fedora USB Creator. But the option you gave commands related to Linux. However I have found 'dd' useful for linux system. I believe even for windows such commands are present. But as I mentioned, everyone here are using Windows. So the one which I got a single Operating system DVD of Fedora 15 of around 3GB should be converted to ISO image on a Windows based System which got DVD DRive, than using that ISO try out to install on my system using any option you mentioned. But I hope still the issue isn't cleared..

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :
#5

"I have a operating system DVD, which I thought that I can convert it to ISO image from another system having DVD Drive."

You can; the dd command I gave above is one way to do this (on Ubuntu and other Linux-based operating systems, and, with some modifications, other non-Linux Unix-like operating systems).

Once you create an .iso image from your physical DVD (assuming that is really what you want to do -- I would encourage you to consider the advantage of downloading the image from an official Fedora distribution channel, as explained in my previous post), you are correct that you can use that .iso image to write a bootable USB flash drive with which you can test and install Fedora. You can write the .iso image to the USB flash drive with dd, Bootable USB Creator, liveusb-creator (on a system where you can get it to run), or any of a number of other utilities.

If the computer that has the DVD drive has Windows, there are a number of applications you can use to rip the DVD and produce a bootable .iso image (which you can then write to a USB flash drive). I am not sure what the best programs are for this on Windows, but here's a brief tutorial that shows you how to do it with MagicDisc: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/09/26/how-to-create-an-iso-file-in-windows/

If you have the .iso image on a Windows machine and you want to write it to the USB flash drive, then you can do this with UNetbootin (http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net). You may also be interested to know that while liveusb-creator does not support or seem to work on Ubuntu, it does support and run on Windows, so you could probably use that too. (For another way--using the Universal USB Installer from http://pendrivelinux.com--you can check out the Windows instructions for writing an Ubuntu .iso image to a USB flash drive at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download. They apply equally well to writing a Fedora .iso image to a USB flash drive on a Windows system.)

I would again like to reiterate that, if you have a fast enough Internet connection and it is not monetarily costly for you to do so, I recommend that you simply download the Fedora .iso image from the Fedora website, or with bittorrent (with the official .torrent file from the website), and verify it by following the instructions at https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify, before writing it to the USB Flash drive. However, as I've said, if for some reason you have a strong desire to create an .iso from the Fedora DVD you have, you should be able to do that on your Windows computer with the DVD drive.

"But I hope still the issue isn't cleared.."

I do not understand what that means.

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Rohith Kumar (rohithkumar-av) said :
#6

Yes I mean, the issue and the result I was expecting was not cleared. That is what I meant by saying so.. Actually my . I have mentioned I don't have ISO image, and my internet connection isn't so fast to download 3GB around DVD ISO file from Internet. I got the FEDORA DVD which I wanted to convert to ISO. That was the my question. Later using LiveUSB-creator in Fedora site, which I mentioned on top which have a file type .tar.bz2.. I tried to install that, so that , if I get ISO image after converting from my Operating System DVD to ISO, than probably I can use it for Live USB creator of Fedora. Simple as that. I know how to download ISO image, and how it dd is used to convert the DVD to ISO using that command in Ubuntu or Linux."Which basically was not my query(question). My question is .tar.bz2 is the file type of Live USB Creator provided by Fedora https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/. And I wanted to install that file. And if possible wanted to know any software which converts FEDORA DVD to ISO.. Which is cleared now.

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Rohith Kumar (rohithkumar-av) said :
#7

Thanks anyway I will try to figure it out my self

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :
#8

If I understand you correctly, you recognize that I have provided you with enough information to create a Fedora .iso image and write it to a USB Flash drive, without having to download Fedora from the Internet. If my explanation for how to do that (in either Ubuntu or Windows) is unclear; please let me know.

So, if I understand you correctly, there are two questions you have that have not been answered:

(1) You want to know if ".tar.bz2 is the file type of Live USB Creator provided by Fedora". Yes, the file you download to attempt to get Fedora's Live USB Creator to work on a system other than Fedora or WIndows has a .tar.bz2 extension, and is a tar archive compressed with bzip2 compression. You have successfully extracted the archive by assuming that was its file type. I have also myself downloaded it and verified that it is a valid .tar.bz2 archive.

(2) You want to know how to run Fedora's Live USB Creator on Ubuntu. I have attempted to do this as well, and I do not believe that it will work on Ubuntu without modification, and I do not know how to make the necessary modification, which might be extensive. This is not really a question about Ubuntu, it's a question about Live USB Creator, which is not part of Ubuntu. If you cannot get it to run by following the included instructions and you cannot get it to run by running "./liveusb-creator" (without the quotes) after running "make" (without the quotes and with no leading "./"), then the only advice I can give you (besides pointing out, as I have done, that you do *not* need to use Fedora's Live USB Creator to accomplish the task you are trying to accomplish, and that it is not necessary or even useful for you to run Live USB Creator on your Ubuntu system without the DVD drive to accomplish the goal of creating an .iso image from your Fedora DVD on your Windows system and writing that .iso imag to a USB flash drive) is to read https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/wiki/FAQ and follow the procedure for getting support and/or reporting a bug. Current versions of Ubuntu use udisks rather than HAL, so perhaps that has something to do with Live USB Creator's inability to run on Ubuntu (or maybe it doesn't).