want to install orage

Asked by Randyman99

I must be really stupid because I can't find the instructions to install orage. I just upgrade Ubuntu to 22.04, using xfce desktop environment, with sfce4-panel 4.16.3. I downloaded Orage 4.16.0 and followed the instructions to install it, but it didn't work. It had me install 180 MB of packages (for a little clock/calendar app!) and still gave me an error that libxfce4util.h was missing, with no clue as to where to get it. Ok, maybe that wasn't meant to be.

So now I find a later release, Orage 4.16.0-2. The same installation instructions don't apply here.

I guess my first question is, "Is Orage going to work on 22.04 with xfce DE?"

My second question is, "Can I install it without 180 MB of bloat?"

If the answer to both of those is "Yes," then I need to be pointed to instructions for how to install it.

Thank you, and I apologize for being edgy.

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :

I have never used orage myself, so I cannot tell for sure whether it works on Ubuntu 22.04 or not.

If you look at the publishing history of orage in Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/orage/+publishinghistory you will see that at the time of release of Ubuntu jammy (22.04) there was only a version of orage available that depended on obsolete qt libraries, and so no orage package was provided for Ubuntu 22.04.

Meanwhile a new version of orage has been packaged for Ubuntu kinetic (22.10) and for Ubuntu lunar (23.04).
A quick check did not reveal any unsolvable dependency, so I assume that a manual installation of the package for kinetic on jammy should be possible - although this is not an officially supported action.

My suggestion:

download the files

run the command
sudo dpkg --install --force-depends orage-data_4.16.0-1_all.deb orage_4.16.0-1_amd64.deb
sudo apt install -f

I do not know about the number and size of dependent packages that have to be installed for that.

Remark to your failed attempt:
libxfce4util.h is in the package libxfce4util-dev

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Randyman99 (rgb99) said :

@m-hampl, Manfred, thank you for your help. I continued to do some more research into this. The one person who maintained Orage left the project, so it sat dormant for several months before someone else picked it up again, and now it's in catch-up mode. It seems as if it still hasn't caught up with Xfce yet to where they'll give it their blessing. There is a newer version of Orage 4.18.0. I tried installing that as well, but it caused my Thunar to run 3 CPUs at full load, so I had to kill it and restart. I even downloaded it from two different location with the same effect. Hmmm... then I notice there's a Xfce version 4.18 that was released in December 2022. Should I upgrade to that? Does Orage 4.18 go with Sfce 4.18? The upgrade for Xfce is in the staging repository, which means it's not quite ready for prime time yet. I have enough trouble just with the stable releases, so I guess I'll wait on both Xfce and Orage. I looked into some other clocks and calendars, and wasn't impressed with any of them to draw me away from the Xfce default. Thanks again for your help.

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :

I do not know from which source you got Orage 4.18, but it is not from Ubuntu.
We cannot help with foreign versions of software; please ask at the source where you got that version.

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Randyman99 (rgb99) said :

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