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.docx file opened in Libre Writer. saved in Ubuntu 11.04 does not always appear at startup

Asked by John Hagerman

My first attempt to actually do something in Ubuntu 11.04!
I was sent a file in .docx intended for editing and return in .docx. Edited the file in Libre Office Writer in Ubuntu 11.04, saved it in Home in the original format and in .odt, and returned the .docx version to the originator.
Now I find, after more restarts than I care to think about, the file only appears in Home in either format about half the time.
I also tried transferring the file to Home in Ubuntu 10.10 and the results were the same.
I also discovered "Search For Files" can find the file only when it appears in Home. Even re-saving the files with slightly different names does not help.
Have I discovered a bug?

Jack

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said : 		#1

Can you post a screenshot of the home folder *not* containing the files, as well as the exact name of the file or file in question?

Launchpad Answers doesn't support attachments, so you'll have to put the screenshot on the web and post a link to it here. You could use a site like http://postimage.org.

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said : 		#2

Correction: "as well as the exact name of the file or file" --> "as well as the exact name of the file or files"

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#3

On 11-06-03 01:35 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote:
> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>
> Eliah Kagan posted a new comment:
> Correction: "as well as the exact name of the file or file" --> "as well
> as the exact name of the file or files"
>

Screen shots posted at: http://postimage.org/image/2vw89yo2s/
The original file is "Special Assessment-Landscaping.docx. Shots are in
this order - unnumbered and -1 are with the files not showing up, -2 and
-3 are with the files showing. The numbers on the actual files are: no
number is the original files as saved in Libre Writer, -1 is the same
files re-saved in Libre Writer, -2 is the same files saved in Open
Office Writer.

Curiously, the saved screenshots only appear when their associated
folders appear, so I had to shift the screenshots from individual
re-starts to a USB stick in order to have them all in one place. Do I
need to say I'm heartily sick of re-starts? The appearance of the files
in question is about fifty percent of the time!

By the way, saving the files in Open Office was a late thought, as was
duplicating the procedure in Ubuntu 10.10. Neither of these made any
difference to the results, which leads me to suspect the problem may
really lie in the original file as received or in a change in .docx by
Microsoft. I don't have MS Office to try that!

Or am I missing something?

Jack

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#4

On 11-06-03 04:06 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>
> Status: Needs information => Open
>
> You gave more information on the question:
> On 11-06-03 01:35 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote:
>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>
>> Eliah Kagan posted a new comment:
>> Correction: "as well as the exact name of the file or file" --> "as well
>> as the exact name of the file or files"
>>
> Screen shots posted at: http://postimage.org/image/2vw89yo2s/
> The original file is "Special Assessment-Landscaping.docx. Shots are in
> this order - unnumbered and -1 are with the files not showing up, -2 and
> -3 are with the files showing. The numbers on the actual files are: no
> number is the original files as saved in Libre Writer, -1 is the same
> files re-saved in Libre Writer, -2 is the same files saved in Open
> Office Writer.
>
> Curiously, the saved screenshots only appear when their associated
> folders appear, so I had to shift the screenshots from individual
> re-starts to a USB stick in order to have them all in one place. Do I
> need to say I'm heartily sick of re-starts? The appearance of the files
> in question is about fifty percent of the time!
>
> By the way, saving the files in Open Office was a late thought, as was
> duplicating the procedure in Ubuntu 10.10. Neither of these made any
> difference to the results, which leads me to suspect the problem may
> really lie in the original file as received or in a change in .docx by
> Microsoft. I don't have MS Office to try that!
>
> Or am I missing something?
>
> Jack
>

Oops! Didn't realize postimage would not take a group of images. Here
are the other 3.

http://postimage.org/image/2w9n6w09w/b3e69f7c/

http://postimage.org/image/2wa5dstpg/0ec50d39/

http://postimage.org/image/2wafb0wo4/552188de/

Jack

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#5

On 11-06-03 04:41 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>
> You gave more information on the question:
> On 11-06-03 04:06 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>
>> Status: Needs information => Open
>>
>> You gave more information on the question:
>> On 11-06-03 01:35 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote:
>>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>>
>>> Eliah Kagan posted a new comment:
>>> Correction: "as well as the exact name of the file or file" --> "as well
>>> as the exact name of the file or files"
>>>
>> Screen shots posted at: http://postimage.org/image/2vw89yo2s/
>> The original file is "Special Assessment-Landscaping.docx. Shots are in
>> this order - unnumbered and -1 are with the files not showing up, -2 and
>> -3 are with the files showing. The numbers on the actual files are: no
>> number is the original files as saved in Libre Writer, -1 is the same
>> files re-saved in Libre Writer, -2 is the same files saved in Open
>> Office Writer.
>>
>> Curiously, the saved screenshots only appear when their associated
>> folders appear, so I had to shift the screenshots from individual
>> re-starts to a USB stick in order to have them all in one place. Do I
>> need to say I'm heartily sick of re-starts? The appearance of the files
>> in question is about fifty percent of the time!
>>
>> By the way, saving the files in Open Office was a late thought, as was
>> duplicating the procedure in Ubuntu 10.10. Neither of these made any
>> difference to the results, which leads me to suspect the problem may
>> really lie in the original file as received or in a change in .docx by
>> Microsoft. I don't have MS Office to try that!
>>
>> Or am I missing something?
>>
>> Jack
>>
> Oops! Didn't realize postimage would not take a group of images. Here
> are the other 3.
>
> http://postimage.org/image/2w9n6w09w/b3e69f7c/
>
> http://postimage.org/image/2wa5dstpg/0ec50d39/
>
> http://postimage.org/image/2wafb0wo4/552188de/
>
> Jack
>
 And again (I asked postimage not to resize, but it did.)

http://postimage.org/image/l0dh55fo/

Jack

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#6

On 11-06-03 05:11 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>
> You gave more information on the question:
> On 11-06-03 04:41 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>
>> You gave more information on the question:
>> On 11-06-03 04:06 PM, John Hagerman wrote:
>>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>>
>>> Status: Needs information => Open
>>>
>>> You gave more information on the question:
>>> On 11-06-03 01:35 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote:
>>>> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
>>>> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>>>>
>>>> Eliah Kagan posted a new comment:
>>>> Correction: "as well as the exact name of the file or file" --> "as well
>>>> as the exact name of the file or files"
>>>>
>>> Screen shots posted at: http://postimage.org/image/2vw89yo2s/
>>> The original file is "Special Assessment-Landscaping.docx. Shots are in
>>> this order - unnumbered and -1 are with the files not showing up, -2 and
>>> -3 are with the files showing. The numbers on the actual files are: no
>>> number is the original files as saved in Libre Writer, -1 is the same
>>> files re-saved in Libre Writer, -2 is the same files saved in Open
>>> Office Writer.
>>>
>>> Curiously, the saved screenshots only appear when their associated
>>> folders appear, so I had to shift the screenshots from individual
>>> re-starts to a USB stick in order to have them all in one place. Do I
>>> need to say I'm heartily sick of re-starts? The appearance of the files
>>> in question is about fifty percent of the time!
>>>
>>> By the way, saving the files in Open Office was a late thought, as was
>>> duplicating the procedure in Ubuntu 10.10. Neither of these made any
>>> difference to the results, which leads me to suspect the problem may
>>> really lie in the original file as received or in a change in .docx by
>>> Microsoft. I don't have MS Office to try that!
>>>
>>> Or am I missing something?
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>> Oops! Didn't realize postimage would not take a group of images. Here
>> are the other 3.
>>
>> http://postimage.org/image/2w9n6w09w/b3e69f7c/
>>
>> http://postimage.org/image/2wa5dstpg/0ec50d39/
>>
>> http://postimage.org/image/2wafb0wo4/552188de/
>>
>> Jack
>>
> And again (I asked postimage not to resize, but it did.)
>
> http://postimage.org/image/l0dh55fo/
>
> Jack
>

Let's put this on hold - I think I've been much too gullible on where
the problem lies.
I have two Ubuntu OSs in this machine, on separate drives - 10.10 and
11.04. It appears each is randomly selecting the Home Directory of the
other, leading me to see the files I have saved only in the Home
Directory they were saved in when the OS I open selects that Directory.
(The 11.04 Home Directory was originally cloned from the 10.10 Home
Directory.)
More later, after I consult with my Linux guru!

Jack

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#7

Well, here's the upshot.
My computer originally was set up with two drives and RAID1. When I dropped RAID1 and installed two separate OSs on the two drives instead, I kept the original home directories on each drive. Therefore, both home directories had the same UUID, which meant each OS randomly selected one or the other at startup. So I was saving files sometimes to one and sometimes to the other!
I think a complete re-install of one of the OSs will separate them completely!

Jack

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said : 		#8

Assuming you want to continue using RAID-1, I recommend you wipe the disks completely first, rather than attempting to reinstall an operating system while retaining files from your RAID array, which is apparently in an inconsistent state.

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John Hagerman (handj949) said : 		#9

On 11-06-05 10:25 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote:
> Your question #160116 on nautilus in Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/160116
>
> Eliah Kagan posted a new comment:
> Assuming you want to continue using RAID-1, I recommend you wipe the
> disks completely first, rather than attempting to reinstall an operating
> system while retaining files from your RAID array, which is apparently
> in an inconsistent state.
>
 Thank you. Except for the two /home directories, all evidence of the
RAID setup is gone.