12.04 mini.iso installation

Asked by ed matt on 2014-02-23

Re: 12.04_32bit_mini_ISO

This Lubuntu-Core was both downloaded w/browser and also w/Synaptic Package Manager.

Package Manager path is recommended, but I find NO docs, going this route.

Q1: What's the installation recipe, when using the Package Manager route?

Going the browser route, 'dd if=/homeusername/Downloads/mini.iso of=/dev/sdc' is NOT supported!

Q2: Can this mini ISO be installed to a thumb drive and if so, please provide valid indexing?

Kind Regards,
Ed

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#1

Yes, then once it's installed to the drive you can run:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install lxde lightdm

Then get a minimum LXDE session. Is this what you need?

Thanks

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#2

actionparsnip,

My question strictly relates to installing mini ISO to the thumb drive, which I gather by your reply, is possible, but by what method?

The burner is non-functional, so I have tried unetbootin to write the mini ISO directly to a 4gb thumb drive, which is non-functional, out of the box. Is it necessary to alter the files/folders that were written to the thumb drive? I will need a terminal CLI prompt on the drive to do what you suggested, which does not exist.

Following the MinimalInstall guide for CLI 12.04 Install for Lubuntu core, all it says, use:

sudo -i
apt-get install lubuntu-core
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
reboot

Please confirm and enlighten how mini ISO gets installed to the thumb drive?
Then I could verify the code you suggested works.

Kind Regards,
Ed
* MinimalInstall guide is hit-and-miss *

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#3

You can install to a usb flash drive. It is a file system just like a traditional internal storage. Grub doesn't care about how the storage is connected unlike Windows.

You will need a separate install CD or USB as well as the destination device to install to.

Why use 'sudo -i' followed by commands needing sudo? Once you authenticate you will be in a grace period where you will not need to type your password for sudo. Seems a little weird.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#4

You will need to use manual partitioning and set the USB storage as the destination as well as mark the partitions as / and swap etc. Be careful where you tell the installer to put Grub

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#5

>You will need to use manual partitioning and set the USB storage as the destination as well as mark the >partitions as / and swap etc. Be careful where you tell the installer to put Grub

hi,
12.04 Precise Pangolin mini ISO would NOT install, due to the repository NOT responding.

Therefore, tried 13.10 Saucy Salamander mini ISO, which did handshake w/mirror!

The assignments made to /dev are weird! Installer said the destination USB device was /sda, which normally is the internal Hard Drive, which I don't want to mess with. It also reported the Installer USB as /sdb and the Hard Drive as /sdc. This is completely backwards from what I am use to!

I simply had to bypass Grub installation, due to this confusion.
Q1: Can Grub be installed offline?

Q2: How can Grub be safely installed with this scenario?

Q3: Why does the mirror fail w/Precise Pangolin?

THX!
Ed

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#6

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video

You can install Grub to the MBR using a chroot from the liveCD desktop. Great guide.

Not sure why the Precise repos would not respond. Maybe there were issues onsite but Precise is fully supported for a long time to come.

As you have installed Saucy, you can upgrade to Trusty in April if you desire. Tusty is LTS and supported for 5 years.

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#7

Hey actionparsnip!

Watched video MORE than once, since it went sooooo fast! I still cannot install Grub2 to the inaccessible 13.10 Saucy installed device, which was bypassed during installation.:

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes ;THIS HARD DRIVE DEVICE IS OFF LIMITS TO UBUNTU, BUT /SDB GRUB BOOTS IT
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders, total 156301488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x42da42da

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 63 151749989 75874963+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2 151749990 154207934 1228972+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda3 154207935 156296384 1044225 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda5 151750053 154207934 1228941 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/sdb: 16.0 GB, 16043212800 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 15300 cylinders, total 31334400 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000c0b61

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 16386047 8192000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 16386048 30285823 6949888 b W95 FAT32
/dev/sdb3 30285824 31334399 524288 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdc: 1007 MB, 1007681536 bytes
31 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1024 cylinders, total 1968128 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00037725

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 2048 1771519 884736 83 Linux ;NEEDS GRUB2 INSTALLED!
/dev/sdc2 1771520 1968127 98304 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdd: 31.0 GB, 30984437760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3766 cylinders, total 60516480 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdd1 * 2048 16779263 8388608 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) ;Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB BOOT SOURCE
/dev/sdd2 16779264 38307839 10764288 b W95 FAT32
/dev/sdd3 38307840 59467775 10579968 b W95 FAT32
/dev/sdd4 59467776 60516351 524288 82 Linux swap / Solaris
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1/mnt
mount: can't find /dev/sdb1/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
***********************

Q1: Any tips getting Grub2 installed to /dev/sdc, so it can boot?

Q2: Can you report 12.04 Precise MIRROR problem to the developer, if you say it's still supported?
I still have OLD low-RAM hardware that requires it.

THX
Ed

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#8

Use the sticking it to grub guide and run:

sudo grub-install /dev/sdc

In the chroot.

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#9

actionparsnip,

Grub2 DID install to Saucy mini ISO ok, thanks.
.. so the Base System is functional.

You have questioned my commands to install the Lubuntu part to it:

Full Desktop:
$ sudo -i
$ apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
$ apt-get dist-upgrade
$ apt-get autoclean
$ rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
reboot

I should think these commands will get a barebones desktop, so I can go online with wifi, and eliminate the hard-wired ethernet connection.

Q: Do you agree and if not, what's missing, inorder to go online w/wifi?

THX!
Ed

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#10

ATT: LUBUNTU MINIMAL_INSTALL SUPPORT

Adding the Lubuntu part to the functional base system is NON-functional!

apt-get is unable to locate ANY of these installations:
# install A:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install lxde lightdm

# install B:
sudo -i
apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
reboot

# Install C:
sudo -i
apt-get install lubuntu-core
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
reboot

Q: Can someone explain the cause and propose a means to restore Lubuntu functional modules?

thanks,
Ed
reference:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#11

Does the system now correctly boot?
Is it connected to the network?
Can you successfully ping 8.8.8.8?
Can you successfully ping archive.ubuntu.com

What kind of messages to you receive for the command
sudo apt-get update

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#12

>Manfred Hampl requested more information:
>Does the system now correctly boot?
Grug2 normal boot flags missing b43 WLAN firmware and freezes!
Grub2 recovery boot gets to root CLI

>Is it connected to the network?
YES

>Can you successfully ping 8.8.8.8?
YES

>Can you successfully ping archive.ubuntu.com
YES

>What kind of messages to you receive for the command
>sudo apt-get update

FETCHED 569 kB IN 10s (56.0 kB/s) Done
***************
HTH
Q: How does the 13.10 Saucy Salamander minimal install Lubuntu-Desktop get installed, so Package Manager GUI can install modules?

Base System appears functional to me. How do you add the Lubuntu part to it? Its recipe is BROKEN, like ALL the mirrors for 12.04 Precise Pangolin!

THX!
Ed
* VERY FRUSTRATING *

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#13

The commands

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

should install a set of packages with a GUI.
What is the output of these commands (you need not retype all output, but we need some core error messages if any).

For the issue with the b43 wlan:
What is the output of
dpkg -l | grep bcm

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#14

>Manfred Hampl requested more information:
>The commands

>sudo apt-get update
>sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-desktop

>For the issue with the b43 wlan:
>What is the output of
>dpkg -l | grep bcm

NO output, returns to CLI

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team

Expert Install, UK_archive.ubuntu.com, linux-image-13.11.0-12-generic Kernel
 was what I had to use inorder to install the 13.10 Saucy Salamander 32-bit
 mini ISO Base System and GRUB boot loader on the thumb drive.

Configure the Package Manager/Select and Install Software has ERRORS,
so it was bypassed.

Reply requested ASAP! I'm loosing faith in lubuntu MinimalInstall . . .
Ed

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#15

"E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-desktop" indicates that the package management system is missing the information from where to download the package. That information should be contained in the /etc/apt/sources.list configuration file
As far as I know, lubuntu-desktop is in the universe repository, so you would need at least main and universe repositories enables

What is the output of
cat /etc/apt/sources.list

Are there lines like
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy ... main ...
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy ... universe ...
(Might be combined in one line ... main universe ...)

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#16

>What is the output of
>cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy main restricted
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy-updates main restricted
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy--security main restricted
*****************

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team

This explains the threads excessive length!

Q: What's the correct Lubuntu MinimalInstall Hotlinks that go into sources.list?
I see NO sign of them!
thx
Ed

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#17

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team

This is all I could find from my location across-the-pond, doing a saucy +universe web search:

Package: lubuntu-desktop (0.52) [universe]

http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lubuntu-desktop
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Ed

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#18

Changing the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into
...
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy main universe restricted
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy-updates main universe restricted
deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy-security main universe restricted
...
and issuing the commands
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
should finally install a graphical lubuntu desktop.

Remark: I have never tried installing from a mini.iso, and I lack the information where the initial values for /etc/apt/sources.list are set. So I can only help curing your problem, but to not know how to prevent re-occurence for someone else.

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#19

>Changing the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into
 >...
 >deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy main universe restricted
 >deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy-updates main universe restricted
 >deb http://...servername.../ubuntu saucy-security main universe restricted

This solved problem ^
thx
Ed

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#20

Thanks Manfred Hampl, that solved my question.

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#21

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team

There are other critical problems that remain:

1) ALL mirrors are broke for 12.04 Precise mini ISO

2) Lubuntu-Desktop has a BUG installing Broadcom b43 wifi firmware:

 E: firmware-b43-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script
 returned error exit status 4
*****************

ed@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  b43-fwcutter
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/23.9 kB of archives.
After this operation, 86.0 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously unselected package b43-fwcutter.
(Reading database ... 134950 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking b43-fwcutter (from .../b43-fwcutter_1%3a017-2_i386.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up b43-fwcutter (1:017-2) ...

ed@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  firmware-b43-installer
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/3,980 B of archives.
After this operation, 57.3 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package firmware-b43-installer.
(Reading database ... 134957 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking firmware-b43-installer (from .../firmware-b43-installer_1%3a017-2_all.deb) ...
Setting up firmware-b43-installer (1:017-2) ...
No chroot environment found. Starting normal installation
--2014-03-14 14:34:07-- http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
Resolving www.lwfinger.com (www.lwfinger.com)... failed: Name or service not known.
wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.lwfinger.com’
dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 4
No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
                                                              Errors were encountered while processing:
 firmware-b43-installer
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
ed@ubuntu:~$

***********************

Setting up firmware-b43-installer (1:017-2) ...
No chroot environment found. Starting normal installation
--2014-03-14 15:47:33-- http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
Resolving www.lwfinger.com (www.lwfinger.com)... failed: Name or service not known.
wget: unable to resolve host address ‘www.lwfinger.com’
dpkg: error processing firmware-b43-installer (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 4
No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
                                                              Setting up libetpan15 (1.0-5) ...
Setting up claws-mail (3.8.1-2) ...
Setting up claws-mail-i18n (3.8.1-2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 firmware-b43-installer
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
ed@ubuntu:~$
*****************
This has NEVER been a problem w/Lubuntu LiveCD.

3) ALL E-mail client's cannot receive mail:

* Account 'ed_mail': Connecting to POP3 server: mail.ed_mail.net...
*** Connection failed.
***************

Q: Is there any patches to fix these 3 CRITICAL problems?

THX4HLP!
Ed

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#22

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team

I just did a CLI sudo tasksel and launched the Lubuntu Minimum Install Package, that provides a desktop, BUT no icons!

A top screen taskbar initially appears, BUT vanishes once I am authenticated! What can be done to generate the needed icons?

Ed

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#23

If you right click the desktop do you get a menu list? Do you use a graphical login page once the system boots?

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#24

RE: 13.1 SAUCY, BASIC CLI INSTALL, TASKSEL>LUBUNTU MINIMAL INSTALL

>actionparsnip requested more information:
>If you right click the desktop do you get a menu list?

A: NO
Once authenticated w/user, password, mouse clicks of any kind do nothing!

>Do you use a graphical login page once the system boots?

A: YES
Grub boots "ubuntu" to the typical lubuntu 13.10 graphic screen and asks for user/password as usual.
Also, there is an initial taskbar across the top with pull down menus that do nothing.

Once authenticated w/user, password, mouse clicks of any kind do nothing!

Q: What is a safe exit path out of this "do-nothing" Desktop loop AND how can the essential graphical start menu be installed/functional?
yours,
Ed

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#25

Q: What is a safe exit path out of this "do-nothing" Desktop loop
A: You can try pressing ctr-alt-t. If a command line terminal opens, you can issue the command "sudo shutdown -P now" or similar to perform a clean poweroff (or issue any other command in that terminal window).
You an try pressing ctrl-alt-del and you should get a pop-up asking whether you want to log off.
You can do a short press on the power button of the computer and you should get a pop-up asking whether you want to power off.

If none of these work, you still could do the REISUB key combination to at least force that the disks are synced before forcing poweroff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#26

RE: 13.1 SAUCY MINI_I S O, BASIC CLI INSTALL, SUDO TASKSEL > LUBUNTU MINIMAL INSTALLATION

ATT: Lubuntu MinimalInstall team

Grub boots "ubuntu" to what appears as the typical lubuntu 13.10 graphic screen and asks for user/password as usual. Also, there is an initial taskbar across the top with pull down menus that do nothing.

Once authenticated w/user, password, mouse clicks of any kind do nothing on the empty Desktop. The ONLY way to get out of this loop is CTRL-ALT-T (thanks Manfred)!

Q: What can be done to generate the missing Desktop icons, so Lubuntu-minimal-installation Desktop can be functional?

thx,
Ed

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
#27

Have you tried:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

Why are you using taskel?

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ed matt (pfourier) said :
#28

>actionparsnip proposed the following answer:
>Have you tried:

>sudo apt-get update
>sudo apt-get upgrade
>sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

>Why are you using taskel?

actionparsnip,

There have been several forks outlined in the Lubuntu MinimalInstall process to install Lubuntu mini ISO:
1) apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

2) apt-get install lubuntu-core

3) Boot CPU from mini ISO thumb drive and type 'cli' (command line install). Follow instructions from text installer.
  After Base System is installed, log in and type 'sudo tasksel' then select 'lubuntu minimum installation' and click OK.

Since #1, #2 failed, #3 is my last resort.

My suggestion to the Lubuntu MinimalInstall Team is to merge ALL forks into just one that is functional.
Ed
* keep it simple *

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#29

@Ed: it might speed up the whole process if you could provide more details about the problems that you have. A sentence like "#1, #2 failed" does not contain any usable information. Did these steps fail with an error message, or did they successfully complete without error, but just not provide the desired results?

Maybe reading http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html gives you an idea what the supporters and developers could need for working on your problems.

Can you help with this problem?

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