Hardy proposed 2.6.24-20-generic kernel update will not boot

Im marking this as confirmed, as i get the same exact bug.

im also uploading a picture of what i get when i try to run in recovery mode, as it doesnt even start up far enough to start writing to the log file.

and here is the forum topic about it with 5+ other people having the same problem:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5447185#post5447185

When I try to get mine running in recovery mode it gets as far as checking for the "hlt" command, which is where it stalls.

Just happened to me too. I posted in the Ubuntu thread, but I'll post again.

Pentium 3 Katmai 450Mhz
Old Asus mobo (not entirely sure)
Nvidia GeForce 5200FX 256MB

I have this problem only on my 32 bit AMD laptop (Averatec 3250)
but my Dell 1521 (AMD Turion64 x2)
and my desktop HP Presario (AMD 64 bits) do not have this problem.

Seems to be related to the 32 bits architecture and/or AMD CPU.

Same problem here, AMD Athlon XP 2600+.

Since this problem only seems to occur on older CPUs, could it be that this kernel package was compiled with some newer instruction set turned on, like SSE2?

Same problem with AMD Sempron 3000+

I've got the same on AMD Athlon 1800+

after restart in grub load press esc and select 2.6.24-19-generic for startup your ubuntu

after startup and nice look of ubuntu start sinaptic and search for 2.6.24-20 ,and remove next:

Completely removed the following packages:
linux-headers-2.6.24-20
linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic

Removed the following packages:
linux-headers-2.6.24-20-generic
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-20-generic
linux-headers-generic
linux-image-generic

restart computer
(if somebody dont anderstand sorry about my bad english :) )

my 2 cents AMD Athlon +2000 1GB ram PNY Verto 6200 video w/ nvidia drivers, stops at the checking hlt line in recovery mode, previous kernels still work.

2.6.24-20-386 and 2.6.24-19-generic both works for me but 2.6.24-20-generic hangs for me too.

Same here, with AMD Athlon processor and NVidia chipset / video card (Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro 2)

craig@lister:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1094.188
cache size : 512 KB
...

I can confirm this to. The PC hangs/freezes right after the "start up"-message.

I had to go back via the grub menu to 19.

AMS Athlon XP 2400+ with a onboard VIA S3 UniChrome

Same here, Sempron 2600+, last messages:

CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
Compat vDSO mapped to ffffe000.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.

Same problem for me to, halts after the hlt check.

goran@LUCIFER:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 1503.426
cache size : 256 KB

I am using a GeForce 7600 GS if that matters.

The same problem after kernell update
with linux 2.6.24-20 generic & linux 2.6.24-20 rt too
system:
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Sempron(tm) 2600+
Memory : 1029MB (390MB used)
Operating System : Ubuntu 8.04.1
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - SiS SI7012

Same problem here... :P

marcelo@BeetleII:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
stepping : 10
cpu MHz : 1004.584
cache size : 256 KB
...

Using GeForce 6220 AGP.

Thanks.

In case this helps, here is another report. I can reproduce this bug with exactly the same symptoms described above. Here is the CPU info:

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : AMD Sempron(tm) 2600+
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 1832.896
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mp mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 3670.00
clflush size : 32

Seems only to affect older computors, my P3 doesn't work but my Dell Latitude D520 does.

Me too

I have the same problem, also.

Booting stops after the checking hlt....ok line
Older kernels works.

My system: AthlonXP 3200+, Abit AN7 with nForce2 chipset and 1GB RAM, nVidia Geforce 7600GT AGP 512MB

... not to make it "only" "me-too"... heres the screenshot of the "hlt" output in debug (root shell) mode...

all amd64 (one turion NB, 2x Athlons 64x2) on 64bit-ubuntus boot fine after the update.

I tried booting the old FujitsuSiemensComputers FSC E-Series E-6500 with 256 (!sic, 2x128MB, so no update feasible, bigger modules seem so rare and it is not worth the money...) MB Ram and this prozessor:

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 648.276
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse up
bogomips : 1297.91
clflush size : 32

I have this problem as well.

* ASUS S1300A series Notebook PC
* Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1200MHz
* 640 MB RAM
* Chipset Graphics Controller: Intel 82830 CGC

I have the same issue, Xubuntu 8.04.1

Intel Celeron 633Mhz
256mb RAM
ATi Radeon 7000 (64mb) using 'radeon' driver

Same here on xubuntu 8.04 kernel 2.6.24-20.
Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine.
If you need any logs just ask.

Not only generic...
Same here with Kubuntu 8.04 using the -rt variant (2.6.24-20-rt).

Not tested with -generic because that causes other problems on my machine (freeze on USB access).

Acer Travelmate 220
Mobile Intel Celeron 1333
1 GB RAM

Athlon XP 2800+
Radeon driver.

Interesting error when removing the package:

Replacing config file /var/run/grub/menu.lst with new version
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

The link /vmlinuz is a damaged link
Removing symbolic link vmlinuz you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
The link /initrd.img is a damaged link
Removing symbolic link initrd.img you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]

Vanilla install.

In order to track down the problem I put some kernels to http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ where I removed some of the changes that went into the 20.37 release. If someone could give that a try and report back to this bug.

Same problem, using generic.

CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2500+
Chipset: nVidia nForce2 Ultra400
Graphics: Radeon 9600xt

---
sarmitage@ophelia:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 2004.679
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 4012.34
clflush size : 32
---

I also have the same problem

processor info

petar@aurora:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1837.616
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 3678.10
clflush size : 32

GeForce FX 5200, Asus motherboard with NV2 chipset

Same problem here, .20 stops at the hlt check.

Acer Aspire 1350 series, AMD Athlon 2.6 , via KM400 graphics.

Hi Stefan Bader, have tried the 20.37 i386.deb, but the problem remains exactly the same.

Stefan Bader,

I downloaded and installed the i386.debs you posted at http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ and still get the same result when rebooting.

Hardy 8.04.1 desktop-i386
MachSpeed Viper V4DP M/B, w/Via KM400 chipset
Sempron 2500+ processor
Sapphire Radeon 9600XT running ATI Catalyst 8.7 driver

Stefan Balder:
The fix does nothing. Sorry.

Ditto

Thanks to ivex82 for the workaround

Same issue with 2.6.24-20-generic

System:
x2 3800 dual core AMD
nvidia 8800GTS
2gig 128bit dual channel ram
mixed sata/pata drives

On my system it doesn't halt, but it doesn't know that there is an nvidia card plus the latest nvidia drivers on board. It gets to the "problem with x" and continue/configure in low rez gui mode. Selecting continue then locks the system.

Same issue:

But I'm not on AMD... I'm on AOpen

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 11
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1000MHz
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 1197.689
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse up
bogomips : 2397.67
clflush size : 32

Me too... Freeze at the "hlt".

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+
Frequency 1400.727 MHz
L2 cache 256 KB
1GB ram
Via chipset
GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X

@stefan :

The posted kernel results in the same problem.

Thanks

Kernel 2.6.24-20-386 works for me, but I had to recompile madwifi drivers.

I got Asus F5VL, Core 2 Duo T5250, Ubuntu 8.04.1.

i confirm the bug

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1916.113
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 3836.83
clflush size : 32

Same problem with Athlon XP 2400+ e nvidia....
But I'm a stupid and I've removed other kernels before rebooting.

Are there any solution? :( HELP

Same problem with AMD Sempron 3000+.

No problem on my laptop (Core 2 Duo T7500)

Affected:
AMD 3200+
nForce2
nVidia 6800

NOT Affected:
Pentium-M 1600
Intel ICH4
Radeon M7 (7500)

I have the same problem with AMD Sempron 2200+.

Athlon 2k+
:(

The same problem:
Ubuntu 8.04
AMD Duron 1.8
nForce 2
Radeon 9600

Same problem for me
Ubuntu 8.04.1
nvidia video card

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 2191.308
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 4386.03
clflush size : 32

It seems only older CPU's are affected. Maybe one of the updates forced the kernel to use new cpu instructions (like SSE2), when it shouldn't. Just a guess.

Yes, this same problem on my Ubuntu 8.04, AMD 1700+, nforce2, GeForce 2 MX/MX 400...

Same happens to me! AMD Athelon xp, nvidia geforce FX 5200...i386

Nvidia cards I guess. Any non nforce2 cards affected?

Same problem...
AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Nvidia Geforce 5200 FX

Nearly the same system.
AMD Athlon XP and Nvidia GeForce 5200FX

Same problem with amd athlon 2600xp, ati radeon 9600xt 128.

I haven't problem with toshiba intel centrino duo 1.66ghz and intel945. It is good.

@Bernard Banko: What do you mean by "non nforce2 cards"? nforce2 is a chipset on motherboards supporting AMD's Socket A - we've got also some P3 with hangs. Or did you think of graphic cards? They are called GeForce.

Well my board has no nforce but a via chipset:

Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge

but the Graphic is a GeForce7600 GS

@Benard Banko:
It's not the video card, because I have an ATI 9600 Pro. Also, it probably isn't the chipset, because they are from a bunch of different venders. They only thing I can see consistently is that all the failing computers have a K7 processor or below.

I meant the chipset. I didn't know about P3.

Dne 25.07.2008 (pet) ob 15:33 +0000 je Steffen Banhardt zapisal(a):
> @Bernard Banko: What do you mean by "non nforce2 cards"? nforce2 is a
> chipset on motherboards supporting AMD's Socket A - we've got also some
> P3 with hangs. Or did you think of graphic cards? They are called
> GeForce.
>
> Well my board has no nforce but a via chipset:
>
> Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
> ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
>
> but the Graphic is a GeForce7600 GS
>

Made a list out of this bug, its duplicates and
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5447185 of affected cpus:

AMD Athlon XP 1600+
AMD Athlon XP 1800+
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
AMD Athlon XP 2200+
AMD Athlon XP 2400+
AMD Athlon XP 2500+
AMD Athlon XP 2600+
AMD Athlon XP 2800+
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
AMD Athlon XP 3200+
AMD Duron 1800
AMD Sempron 2200+
AMD Sempron 2500+
AMD Sempron 2500+
AMD Sempron 2600+
AMD Sempron 2600+
AMD Sempron 2600+
AMD Sempron 3000+
AMD Sempron 3000+

AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 2200+
AMD Athlon XP-M 2,6

Intel Celeron @600
Intel Celeron @633
Intel Celeron CPU @1000

Mobile Intel Celeron @1333

Intel Pentium 3
Intel Pentium 3 Katmai @450
Intel Pentium 3 648.276
Intel Pentium III @1000

Intel Pentium 3 Mobile @1200

----------------------------------------
Reported as *NOT* affected are

Intel Pentium 4 3.20ghz
Intel Pentium-M 1600
Intel Core Duo @1830
AMD Athlon 64 X2
AMD Turion 64 (mobile)
Intel Core 2 Duo T5250

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux/+bug/251344/comments/36

x2 3800 dual core AMD with a nvidia 8800GTS

seems to be another problem similar to this one
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5454084#post5454084

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 with aNVIDIA GE Force 8500GT

same problem here... booting stopped at "start up..."

AMD 2000+
MSI K2 Combo
1.3 MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 64MB

Same problem with Athlon XP 2500+ nvidia chipset/card

Did a stupid thing - removed all older kernels :(

I'm sorry, I wrote that 2.6.24-20-386 works for me and I have Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, but kernel 2.6.24-20-generic DOESN"T WORK for me. That's why I had to download other version. Se please mark my CPU as affected.

The same for me @ Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1000MHz

Dell Latitude C610

fre 2008-07-25 klockan 18:44 +0000 skrev Sergei Andreev:
> Same problem with Athlon XP 2500+ nvidia chipset/card
>
> Did a stupid thing - removed all older kernels :(
>

If you boot with The LiveCD, and follow this:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306424&highlight=chroot

But also manually download 2.6.24-19, before reboot. You may also
edit /boot/grub/menu.lst "Default = 2"

The upgrade from 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.24-20 has presented a problem:
Sony laptop PCG-505ls: NG starting, assume bios, .......
Dell laptop Latitude C610 or older (?): NG starting, ......
Dell laptop Latitude D800: OK
Dell laptop Latitude D600 x3: OK
ALtima AMD 800 custom desktop: OK

btw, I used the launchpad Firefox plugin, works great. Anyone know of a launchpad bug feeder/reader?

Sergei Andreev!
Install this packages:
linux-headers-2.6.24-19 install
linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic install
linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic install
linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-19-generic install
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic install

/boot/grub/menu.lst:
title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=.... ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
quiet

title Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=.... ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic

Same problem. AMD Athlon 2600+ & 1.5gb Ram.
Turned off proposed updates now & continuing to boot from kernel 2.6.24-19-generic.

2 bbauto:
Thanks for solution, the first one have worked for me.

I add this as well as a also very dispoiting experience with my first ubuntu install I get this kind of thing...

Mistakes happen but I thught that was onlly reseverd to Microsoft.

Rant aside since this is a critical and known issue should be withrawn from servers and auto porposed nupdates ASAP until proper fix is availabel.

Same is true wit RT versions of kernel in fact no flavour of linux that will install the proposed 2.6.24-20 wll work...

I know we can always revert to the previous kernel but lets be realistic here.

@X3:
I agree that this was a blunder, and probably shouldn't have happened. But keep in mind, this was in the Proposed Updates repository. These updates aren't meant to be considered official updates. Proposed Updates is a testing bed to catch these kind of problems before they hit mainstream.
If you want a perfectly stable Ubuntu, then don't use unstable untested software, and stick with the standard update repository

I agree 100% with what Ripps818 says. This update only went in to hardy-proposed, which is a testing repository for updated packages. hardy-proposed is aimed at people wanting to test updated packages, and is designed to catch problems like this. The only users affected by this problem are those who have explicitly enabled the hardy-proposed testing repository, and not the general user base. People running hardy-proposed should be prepared for occasional breakage like this (as is the case with running the unstable branch)

OK! I BELIEVE I LOCATED THE PROBLEM!!!

Everyone with this problem try this.
UNINSTALL NVidia or ATI drivers that I'm mutch sure you installed using EnvyNG. Then reinstall the latest 2.6.24-20 kernel and reboot.
Then you can add your restricted drivers again by using EnvyNG.

I'm 99% certain that EnvyNG is the culprit for our problems.

@Peter Velkovski:
Nope, sorry. I'm not using any propreitary drivers. I'm using the opensource Radeon drivers.
Also, I find it highly unlikely that any video drivers are the culprit, since they are loaded as modules later in the booting process. Most of us can't even get past the initial CPU check.

Same .20 problem here.

CPU Info: Intel Pentium III Tualatin 1.4 Ghz
Video card: NVidia w/ proprietary dirver version.

Regards,

Same problem here: Stops right after "hlt" check.

CPU Info: AMD Athlon XP 2400+

"Same problem here: Stops right after "hlt" check."

Same here too....

CPU: Intel Pentium III 1.13 GHz
Motherboard: ECS P6S5AT
Video card: NVidia GeForce FX5200 128MB AGP with proprietary driver version installed with EnvyNG.

I agree but how do we newbe's correct it ?

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 21:56 +0000, Ripps818 wrote:

> @X3:
> I agree that this was a blunder, and probably shouldn't have happened. But keep in mind, this was in the Proposed Updates repository. These updates aren't meant to be considered official updates. Proposed Updates is a testing bed to catch these kind of problems before they hit mainstream.
> If you want a perfectly stable Ubuntu, then don't use unstable untested software, and stick with the standard update repository
>

That's another blunder , that anybody gets to download this stuff,
without knowing. I mean going to get the stuff from update manager
should be safe isn't it?

On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 02:48 +0000, hkootstra wrote:

> I agree but how do we newbe's correct it ?
>
> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 21:56 +0000, Ripps818 wrote:
>
> > @X3:
> > I agree that this was a blunder, and probably shouldn't have happened. But keep in mind, this was in the Proposed Updates repository. These updates aren't meant to be considered official updates. Proposed Updates is a testing bed to catch these kind of problems before they hit mainstream.
> > If you want a perfectly stable Ubuntu, then don't use unstable untested software, and stick with the standard update repository
> >
>

Same issue here. Not using the Envy Nvidia driver.

press escape during boot and choose the 2.6.24-19 kernel.

You could also remove the 2.6.24-20 kernel package via synaptic for the
moment

2008/7/26 hkootstra <email address hidden>

> I agree but how do we newbe's correct it ?
>
> On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 21:56 +0000, Ripps818 wrote:
>
> > @X3:
> > I agree that this was a blunder, and probably shouldn't have happened.
> But keep in mind, this was in the Proposed Updates repository. These updates
> aren't meant to be considered official updates. Proposed Updates is a
> testing bed to catch these kind of problems before they hit mainstream.
> > If you want a perfectly stable Ubuntu, then don't use unstable untested
> software, and stick with the standard update repository
> >
>
> --
> Hardy proposed 2.6.24-20-generic kernel update will not boot
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/251344
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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Same problem - AMD Athlon XP 2600+

Same problem here:

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1994.511
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
bogomips : 3992.46
clflush size : 32

The PC freeze after the "Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK."
The next operation that would occur in a working kernel would be "SMP alternatives: switching to UP code"

variant of decision: Parameter `no-hlt' on boot

Someone else has very likely identified the problem and I put up some kernels that contain that fix. Please have a look at the latest kernels at http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ and let us know the results.

Sorry Stefan but the smb4 kernel does not solve the problem for me.
Xubuntu 8.04
pentium 3 coppermine

Same here.
AMD Athlon 2800+

Same here with AMD Athlon 1700+

The smb kernel from http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ also works for me but my processor is single core AMD Athlon XP. Also in my previous post when I suspected that EnvyNG is the problem I didn't make the system work with generic but with the 386 kernel.

To avoid any confusion please give us information what kernels should we test? Generic, smb, 386? Is only generic affected with this bug, or all of them? Also tell us if there are any log (debug??) files we should send to this post and how to obtain them.

lör 2008-07-26 klockan 12:18 +0000 skrev Stefan Bader:
> Someone else has very likely identified the problem and I put up some
> kernels that contain that fix. Please have a look at the latest kernels
> at http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ and let us know the results.
>
The smb..i386 doesn't work on my P III Coppermine

... neither works it on my pentium III coppermine...

Still some info how and where to look would be nice!

Stefan Bader,

The latest kernel fix you posted at http://people.ubuntu.com/~smb/bug251344/ worked for me, it booted just like it should. I'm running the AMD Sempron 2500+ cpu on the desktop-pc i386 version of Hardy.

Thanks.

The latest kernel fix (Stefan Bader) is now OK.
I have dosktop-pc i386, Kubuntu 8.04, AMD Sempron 2200+.

The kernel fix works for me only partly: (Sempron 2600+)

It boots well, but X desn't start up with the old xorg.conf - I didn't get nvidia-glx installed, it seems that the card (GeForce 7600GS) isn't even recognized.

Stefan Bader,

linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic_2.6.24-20.37smb4_i386.deb still fails to boot on a IBM T23 with P3 - Mobile

Halts at:
[ 4.530831] Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.

cpuinfo:
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 11
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1200MHz
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 798.000
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse up
bogomips : 1600.25
clflush size : 32

Stefan Bader,

I could not get the latest fix to work. I assume I just needed to install the package and boot the kernel. I have a pentium III. What hardware information should we include to be most helpful? Thanks.

--Patrick

Same issue here Athlon XP 3200 Nvidia card, etc... etc... .19 Kernel works now I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Steffen Banhardt said:

The kernel fix works for me only partly: (Sempron 2600+)

It boots well, but X desn't start up with the old xorg.conf - I didn't get nvidia-glx installed, it seems that the card (GeForce 7600GS) isn't even recognized.
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I just wanted to add that I am using a Radeon 9600xt (256mb) graphics card with the latest ATI Catalyst 8.7 installed via "Method 2" on this page http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
Also, I installed the ATI Catalyst 8.7 while using the 2.6.24-19-generic kernel. Everything loaded perfectly, and I rebooted twice just to make sure; been using 2.6.24-20-generic for a little over 2 hours, no problems.

So, it appears that Stefan Bader's fix "linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic_2.6.24-20.37smb4_i386.deb" is working for AMD processors (Athlon, Sempron, etc.) as far as getting the kernel to boot.

I have two machines to test.

1.) Old FujitsuSiemens Lifebook E Series
- Intel Pentium III-M 1 GHz
- 512 MB RAM
- Intel 830 Mobile Chipset
- ATI Radeon Mobility M6

This machine works with -19-generic, but not with -20-generic (neither the original 20.37 from hardy-proposed, nor the 20.37smb4 as posted above). The machine hangs like the others at "Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK."

2.) New FujitsuSiemens Lifebook S Series
- Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GHz (T7250)
- 2 GB RAM
- Intel Mobile 965 Express Chipset
- Intel GMX X3100 (chipset integrated)

That machine works with -19-generic and with -20-generic (from hardy-proposed).

If there is anything I could test on these machines please let me know.

Kind regards, Bernhard.

@ Stefan Bader,

The new kernel booted but broke sound, network and a few other things I'm sure.
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+
ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]

log attached

The Kernel "...20.37smb4_i386 " works for me, on AMD Sempron (tm)2600+
All works fine.

Thanks

- Stefan Bader
The same problem.
New kernel "linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic_2.6.24-20.37smb4_i386.deb" booted, but sound and graphic card was broken.

Sempron 2200+ Socket A
Abit NF7-s2 with audio controller (nvidia nforce2)
Radeon 9600

Count me in.

Won't boot past starting up or 'hlt' check in recovery mode.

Celeron 1 Ghz

512 MB memory

2.6.24-19-generic works great and I have reverted back to it.

Looks like I missed an upstream commit that affects a certain class of CPUs, e.g., those missing the RDTSC instruction. Please try the set of kernel packages at http://ppa.launchpad.net/timg-tpi/ubuntu. Alternatively, you can wait a couple of days and it will sort itself out after I upload another kernel.

Hmm.. my problem with this kernel is:

"Error 18 Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios"

2-6-24-19 or earlyer no problem.

Asrock K7VT4A, 1800+, 40GB Maxtor (LBA mode!), 1 GB, Matrox Marvel G450eTV

And AMI BIOS (2005-05-19)

(Sorry, my bad English)

I am also affected by this bug. 2.6.24-20-generic halted just after the hlt check. I have an Athlon XP 1500+ on a Gigabyte GA-7N400 motherboard with 1GB RAM.

Tim, I've upgraded to your kernel packages (2.6.24-21-generic etc.) and everything works well, kernel boots and all modules are working as far as I can see. No obvious errors shown in dmesg.

Same problem, on two systems running AMD Athlon MP 2400+.
One is a ubuntu 8.04 the other is mythubuntu. Previous kernel runs fine.

The same here, Cel 3 1200, 512Mb.

It happened to me to with a Intel Mobile 1.2 Ghz p3 on a Fujitsu Lifebook.

Tim I tried the 2.6.24-21 kernels you listed at http://ppa.launchpad.net/timg-tpi/ubuntu/ and they boot up unlike the 2.6.24-20 kernel but after that upgrade my wireless card was MIA. I am using the rt61pci wireless driver. I restarted with the 2.6.24-19 kernel to get it back. I'm sure I'm missing something simple.

Same problem here 2.6.24-20-generic does not work for me. 2.6.24-19-generic work as well.

System:
Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE3)
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
512 MB RAM
disc on Ext3
Video card: Nvida GeForce FX

(Bug #252110 is a Duplicates of this bug.)

2.6.24-21-generic works for me

AMD Sempron 2600+
Board: K7VT4A+
Geforce 7600 GS

Thanks Tim

Success! Thanks, Tim Gardner...

http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main:
linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.41ubuntu1_i386.deb

Now correctly boots..

IBM T23
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1200MHz

uname -a
Linux ubuntu-t23 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Sat Jul 26 15:39:24 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Tim Gardner's link was a little bit confusing, but I found a package called
linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.41ubuntu1_i386.deb
and uname -r states 2.6.24-21-generic, too, so that one boots fine on the old P3 Coppermine...

Maybe offtopic #1:
but in dmesg appears rsrc_nonstatic: Unknown symbols
and yenta_socket: Unknown symbols (probably only the audio driver)

Maybe offtopic #2:
and - also I am not sure if it is related - amd64 with mdadm-raids on Kernel 2.6.24-20 have a (recoverable?) segfault.

@Grizzly:
You can add Tim's link directly to your sources.list - then you'll get also the new modules etc like:

linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-21-generic
linux-libc-dev
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-21-generic
linux-headers-2.6.24-21-generic
linux-headers-2.6.24-21

It worked for me.

AMD Athlon XP 2200+
linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.41ubuntu1_i386.deb

Thanks!

I got 2.6.24-21-rt working with my rt61pci wireless card. [thumbsup]

Thanks Tim G.

I installed 2.6.24-21-rt which works for me now after 2.6.24-20-rt failed to boot on AMD XP2200+ with NVIDIA legacy proprietary drivers. Thanks for the patch.

Happened to me too, wouldn't boot, except for a blank blank screen.

But why use a PPA to resolve the issue? Why not just boot into the old '19' kernel, remove the '20' kernel, and untick backports under software sources.

You can boot to the old 19 of curse and remove proposed from your sources - proposed is for people willing to test new features. And thats the same with Tim's PPA. If you're willing to test it, do so, otherwise it could be wiser to remove proposed, of course.

mån 2008-07-28 klockan 08:42 +0000 skrev Steffen Banhardt:
> You can boot to the old 19 of curse and remove proposed from your
> sources - proposed is for people willing to test new features. And thats
> the same with Tim's PPA. If you're willing to test it, do so, otherwise
> it could be wiser to remove proposed, of course.
>

Or simply edit "Default = 0 --> 2" in menu.lst, if you don't delete the
old kernel.
>From terminal: "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" look for Default...

For more than 3 months now some people have been complaining about ununtu's 2.6.24 kernels causing random freezes to a few systems (see the many threads that come out googling for hardy + freeze). This particularly nasty bug is still unfixed.

It was noticed that 2.6.25 kernels did not have the issue. Conseqently the porting of a 2.6.25 kernel to hardy was asked many times (for instance see ubuntu brainstorm).

However, porting a 2.6.25 kernel to hardy was always excluded as a "big jump in the dark" in spite of most major distros and a huge number of users using it routinely. It was said that the right way to go was to backport pieces of 2.6.25 as patches to 2.6.24.

And now we have this incident proving that also the cherry-picking is no less a jump in the dark. At this point please rethink the kernel policies and let ubuntu follow the normal kernel updates provided by kernel.org. Or please, do it at least whenever moving to a well tested plain 2.6.x.y is easier than trying to patch-again an already very-much-patched and only-tested-by-ubuntu-users 2.6.x-k.

same problem. Will the kernel that Tim refers to coming out in a couple of days get auto updated while I am running on 2.6.24.19 or is there something else I need to do to jump from .19 to .21 ?

BTW I had installed eclipse and it is not to be found anymore (says its not installed after I boot with 2.6.24.19) - is this normal for programs to be tied to the kernel and distribution (I thought they should not be). Will a fresh get of the program conflict with any future kernel update ?

Stephan) Thanks, I did not realize it was that easy - for a testbed old notebook, I think I will simply add to sources.lst - lets see what's with the Audio

Sergio) fullACK even debian itself is on 2.6.25-something these days in my virtual machine... (I am thinking about making debian productive in autumn with next additional net- or subnotebook... to not only rely on ubuntu... I found openSolaris, fedora, openSuse or sabayon all not that usable than ubuntu...)... better to put the most current kernel.org kernel into "proposed" and then test that than a patch of a patch of a patch of something old... (e.g. rebuilding nvidia drivers etc. is sometimes required anyway with updates...) BUT: it felt like the versions 17 to 18 where more "performant" but on a marginal <= 50ms (?) latency on normal load) base...

Still one thing: nobody tells me, except "Try this patch" - what it MEANS how to look into the matter etc. remains obscure here. Is that only reserved for the brightest experts? Why must such a message than a "hlt" one be so "unexplained"? Does anyone know where to get a better EXPLANATION of what happened?

And a yes, the 2.6.24-20 from Tim Gardner does break my sound support. A shame, was the old notebook my preferred way of watching simpsons while surfing before the evening --- I'm back to .19 and wait for 2.6.25 something... which is sad, I wanted to give the old notebook away as a gift.. as much up to date as possible... still better than no pc at all for some, right?

someone said that the newest kernel missed a commit or something that fixed a problem with the kernel calling RDST (acronym is most likely wrong) or some other cpu instruction, and all the people having the problems were cpus that dont have that instruction so the cpu locks up

the explanation is somewhere in this huge bug report, i just cant look through it right now

Yes I read that with the missing instruction on wikipedia (en.wikipedia.org/rdtsc)

"This instruction was not formally part of the X86 assembly language at Pentium and was recommended for use by expert users or System Programmers only (Intel reference required). Pentium competitors such as the Cyrix 6x86 did not always have a TSC and may consider this instruction illegal. Use of this instruction in Linux distributions precludes Linux from booting where the CPU does not support RDTSC"

How it relates to "hlt" I cannot figure out (yet)

Now I have the .21 kernel and in total 10 packages updatet (headers etc.), a last try installed via deb line on Tim Gardners (? kernel image?) repo and audio is back, uname -r shows but now I have a bunch of boot-up warnings (shall I post dmesg or sth. else?) and usb-mouse on the single usb-port is sluggish...
Again, falling back to .19 for the time being.
Oh no, the boot messages about ata problems and whatever appear now in BOTH kernels (-21 and -19...)... looks like a reinstall candidate...

Suggestion: can we not introduce categories to a bug, wiki-style, so that "me too" and hardfacts can be separated/modified? I'll put that to "help improve lp" after thinking (or somebody do it) (over for now)

More information on what see to be the same issue.

The kernel panics during the shorewall initialization during boot.

The laptop is a Thinkpad X60S.

Relevant packages installed:
$ dpkg -l |grep 2.6.24-20
ii linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-20-generic 2.6.24-20.20 Ubuntu supplied Linux modules
for version 2.
ii linux-headers-2.6.24-20 2.6.24-20.37 Header files related to Linux kernel version
ii linux-headers-2.6.24-20-generic 2.6.24-20.37 Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.24 on x
ii linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic 2.6.24-20.37 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86
ii linux-libc-dev 2.6.24-20.37 Linux Kernel Headers for development
ii linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-20-generic 2.6.24.14-20.46 Non-free Linux 2.6.24 modules on x86/x86_64
ii linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-20-generic 2.6.24-20.29 Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.

Attached lspci -vv output.

I don't have a dmesg from 2.6.24-20 because it seems like the syslog isn't enabled before the panic or disk didn't sync.

I could get more information if I find a null modem cable and enable serial console.

I will keep you posted.

Jeremy

Sorry guys, my 2 postings relate to bug 251252. The administrator can remove them ...

I got confused, I have 2 laptops, one behaving like this bug, the other like bug 251252.

Jeremy

The problem should now be fixed with the latest kernel in -proposed (2.6.24-20.38). Could someone confirm this?

I confirm this. Athlon 2600+ working fine now.

After installing the new proposed kernel (2.6.24-20.38) the system boots successfully. (Yay!)

However now my graphics card is not recognized. After a lot of flickering X finally starts but with only 800x600 resolution.
When booting 2.6.24-19 the graphics works fine.

I guess that the graphicsproblems should go into a new bug(?) but this means I am still not using 2.6.24-20 kernel.
/Sebastian

Confirmed working on my Athlon 2500+

Actually lspci under 2.6.24-20.38 and 2.6.24-19 are identical, will try again if X works better after disabling proprietary nvidia drivers.

My report for a successfully booting 2.6.24-20.38 is on an Athlon 1600+ (Palomino) CPU.
/Sebastian

Same behavior as Sebastian Bengtsson.
The 2.6.24-20.38 kernel now boots fine : the current problem seems to be resolved in my case (Athlon XP 3200+).

But I have exactly the same issue with the graphic card : flickering then low resolution.
Mine is a nvidia Geforce 6200 SE, with the proprietary drivers ("nvidia" driver in xorg.conf) installed by the ubuntu wizard.

I also came back to 2.6.24-19...

Confirmed, working on AMD Sempron 2500+ with no problems.

the kernel 2.6.24-21-rt solves this problem, but I can't get the consoles tty with it. I just a blinking cursor

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 6
model name : AMD Athlon(TM) XP1700+
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1109.909
cache size : 256 KB

Stefan Bader, Confirmed:

2.6.24-20.38 works on IBM T23
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU 1200MHz

uname -a
Linux ubuntu-t23 2.6.24-20-generic #1 SMP Mon Jul 28 13:49:24 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Is all working fine now! Thanks.

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 11
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU Tualatin family 1400MHz
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 1406.414
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse up
bogomips : 2815.75
clflush size : 32

$uname -a
Linux dartagnan 2.6.24-20-generic #1 SMP Mon Jul 28 13:49:52 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic boots on my computer, but the Sound Card is not detected!

AMD AthlonXP2500+, Asus board with NVIDIA nForce2 chipset

After disabling proprietary nvidia driver xorg at normal resolution without problems.

However there are some kind of issue remaining as the proprietary hardware drivers guide (jockey-gtk) now doesn't recognize there is an nvidia card present for which a proprietary driver (nvidia-legacy in this case) could be installed.

uname:
Linux molly 2.6.24-20-generic #1 SMP Mon Jul 28 13:49:52 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15DDR [GeForce2 Ti] (rev a4)

I am sorry if this is going off topic. But it appears that the new kernel introduces some minor regressions.

2.6.24-20.38 fixes the issue for me as well.

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 8
model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 647.199
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse
bogomips : 1295.48
clflush size : 32

I believe these failures are AMD CPU bound sine I hav e tested 15 machines and 4 of which are MAD and those failed.

On another note intrepid loads ok

2.6.24-20.38 fixes the Error 18 when boot, but I get "Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure" and stop booting.

2.6.24-19 works fine.

Xanax - You have a separate issue and should open a new bug report

Ok the computer is now booting with the proposed kernel but as mentionned earlier the nvidia drivers not recognized or something.
Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev a1)

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:19 AM, max69 <email address hidden> wrote:
> Ok the computer is now booting with the proposed kernel but as mentionned earlier the nvidia drivers not recognized or something.
> Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev a1)

My nvidia driver is also not recognised (AMD Athlon XP 1800+ with a
GeForce 5200FX video card, if that matters) on the latest
2.6.24-20-generic.

System boots now with updated kernel but no nvidia driver.

03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 420] (rev a3)

Nvidia GeForce MX420

* MMarking <email address hidden>:
> System boots now with updated kernel but no nvidia driver.

Did you forget to install the appropriate
linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-20-generic
package?

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I'm seeing the same, system boots but goes into graphics safe mode.

$ apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules
linux-restricted-modules:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.6.24.20.22
  Version table:
     2.6.24.20.22 0
        500 http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com hardy-proposed/restricted Packages
     2.6.24.19.21 0
        500 http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com hardy-updates/restricted Packages
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Packages
     2.6.24.16.18 0
        500 http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com hardy/restricted Packages

linux (2.6.24-20.38) hardy-proposed; urgency=low

  [Tim Gardner]

  * SAUCE: Export usbhid_modify_dquirk for LBM module bcm5974
    - LP: #250838
  * Enable TULIP ethernet support in virtual appliance flavour
    - LP: #250857
  * VIA AGP VT3364 is not detected
    - LP: #251854
  * VIA - Add VIA DRM Chrome9 3D engine
    - LP: #251862

  [Upstream Kernel Changes]

  * net/usb: add support for Apple USB Ethernet Adapter
    - LP: #232200
  * acpi: fix "buggy BIOS check" when CPUs are hot removed
    - LP: #248509
  * x86: fix paranoia about using BIOS quickboot mechanism.
    - LP: #248905
  * flush kacpi_notify_wq before removing notify handler
    - LP: #248509
  * fix a deadlock issue when poking "eject" file
    - LP: #248509
  * force offline the processor during hot-removal
    - LP: #248509
  * create sysfs link from acpi device to sysdev for cpu
    - LP: #248509
  * x86: fix bootup crash in native_read_tsc() (aka use XMM2)
    - LP: #249135
  * x86: lfence fix - LFENCE is available on XMM2 or higher
    Intel CPUs - not XMM or higher...
    - LP: #249135

 -- Tim Gardner <email address hidden> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:12:46 -0600

>Did you forget to install the appropriate
>linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-20-generic
>package?

No, I have them installed.

Can you confirm that the -20.38 version fixes the regression? Thank you!

It appears to be booting properly now.

* Martin Pitt <email address hidden>:
> Can you confirm that the -20.38 version fixes the regression? Thank you!

Yes, the -20.38 version fixes the regression!

Did only affect hardy-proposed. Thank you for testing!

This kernel (-20.38) now works for me. I'm using it as my default kernel from yesterday.

The booting regression is solved for me, but 2.6.24-20.38 kernel gave another regression for some of us : the display falls back in low-resolution (graphics safe mode). Maybe it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/254418
Looks like it's related to nvidia cards only.

I experiency exactly the same issues as the previous poster.

Ok, just to be clear. I had to reinstall nvidia drivers with EnvyNG every time i changed kernel. From 2.6.24-16 -> 2.6.24-17, 2.6.24-17->2.6.24-18 etc. So I personally don't consider this as a bug, but as something that has to be done every time we switch to a newer kernel build. If this is a bug, I presume it is connected with EnvyNG, not with the kernel build.

Regarding to the previous post, I have never had to reinstall the nvidia driver, which is the one available from the -restricted-modules package. It has seamlessly worked throughout all kernel updates until -20. I have never used EnvyNG nor did I know what it was until I googled for it.

i have exactly the same problem, the system hangs when trying to start X (only showing the nvidia logo). switching to the nv driver does not solve the problem. i switched back to -19 for the moment.

I just tried -21. It seems to work fine. I have an NVIDIA gfx card and it booted into X at my normal resolution.

-21 works for me

-21 works for me too. Thanks!

-21 works for me as well.

-Scott