grub bootloader

Scouse,

what do you mean with
..."installed in my xp-partition"?
what goes wrong on installing grub?
are there any errors?

Grub can only be installed if there is a linux-partition that is ext3/linux, not FAT32 of NTFS.

Please give more specifi information.

Hello Menting
                      I have installed ubuntu in my windows xp partition windows has 150 gb and ubuntu 50gb but ubuntu grubloader is not in the boot meue there is only windows . and no errors

scouse

did you use WUBI to install ubuntu within Windows? Or did you boot off the LiveCD to install ubuntu?

Hi, Welcome to linux ;)

It's always tough trying to install an OS for the first time ever. Ubuntu try to make it easy but its still quite tough. Don't worry, you're not alone. It might be worth just trying to install it again. Second time around you notice things you might have missed first time.

150Gb Windows partition sounds good and 50Gb Ubuntu partition sounds like more than plenty which is good - but hard-drives are normally either 150Gb or 250Gb? Could you do us a favour and use the Ubuntu disc as a 'Live Cd' (bootdisk) - just try booting off it but don't install anything. Then the Places menu on the top taskbar should show 2 'media' a 150Gb and a 50Gb? If it just shows 1 drive of 150Gb then we'll know you installed Ubuntu within Windows as though Ubuntu was just another program. Whichever way the LiveCd shows it to be - we can try to help you from there but we need info.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

Hi,

Is that impossible to intsall windows and linux in one partition? I think it's not possible. 'Cause windows runs on ntfs or fat32 partion type, linux runs on ext3. While you install linux, the installer needs you to format the partition to ext3.

I think in this case, Scouse runs linux on the Live CD so he can not boot into linux last time. Or Scouse, can you give us more clear about your issue.

Regards,
Thien :)

We all seem to have different opinions. A lot of different things might have happened and we need clarification before we can proceed with a decent answer.

When a Windows user has booted into Windows and puts the Ubuntu 8.10 disc in the cd/dvd drive they get an option to install Ubuntu inside Windows & so it uses the ntfs partition. When the machine boots up it gets past the bios stage and starts on the Windows stage and then suddenly pauses and gives a black screen with white writing offering a choice between Windows and Ubuntu. This is the Wubi installation.

Linux users will find this wierd but it is possible. Think of it like running Wine or think of the tiny Puppy distros that allow a "Frugal" install rather than a full proper install.

With a normal linux dual-boot the boot up menu appears just after the bios stage, much earlier than Wubi. Also the grub menu offering a choice between Ubuntu and Windows is often on a blue or red background (rather than black) it tends to offer a lot more options like 'safe' modes and also each menu item tends to be much more descriptive than just say "Windows" or "Ubuntu" which is all the Wubi gives. The grub will have options like "Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic (recovery mode)"

Until we know for sure which style of install (Wubi or normal) all we can really suggest is - "Try reinstalling, better luck next time". Not a great answer but all we can offer for the moment i think :(

Good luck and have fun figuring this out
Regards from
Tom :)

I have installed ubuntu normaly taking 50gb from my windows partition, but grub dose not appear at all in any part of the boot menu and I had no error messages at all. I have try to install ubuntu 7 times now with no luck.So I think I will give it up as a bad job. I have used ubuntu before on a laptop and had no problems.
scouse

Scouse,

if you boot from the Ubuntu-CD (put it in your Laptop, PC OFF and ON again),
Can you install Ubuntu from the menu you get there?!?

(So do not start Windows before installing Ubuntu)

At the end, the installation Program asks you to install GRUB in the MBR... If you see your windows listed there,
choose YES.

After this installation both Windows and Ubuntu runs on separate partitions.
Please reply if this succeeds.

Brilliant, top marks for the best answer so far.

Doing that and going through the Manual Partitioning option (rather than Automatic or Guided) just to be absolutely safe is the perfect way.  If you can make sure you have a tiny linux-swap partition of around just 500Mb then that covers most eventualities.

But that's all just getting fussy and paranoid

Regards all
Good luck scouse
Tom :)

hello lads
             As ubuntu will not install on my pc, I have now installed it with WUBI thanks for your help scouse