Kubuntu fails to connect to any html page

Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from Kubuntu?

Why do you have a triple boot like that too? You can install multiple DEs to the same Ubuntu and simply change the DE at logon, they are not different OSes, the only difference is the default apps and desktop environment

Seems a bit excessive to have pretty much exactly the same data on 2 partitions

The answer to the first ? is b/c I don't know what I'm doing. I wanted to try both and was told to do it this way in an Ubuntu forum, then just use the grub to change between OS's. How do I ping in Kubuntu? Thanks.

You can, some folks like to keep KDE and Gnome separated but its really not necessary.

Ping is identical in any OS, just do it in a terminal and type:

ping -c 4 8.8.8.8

Do you get replies?

Reply is: "Networl is unreachable"

sorry-- "Network"

Can you access the Web interface of your ADSL router (something like http://192.168.1.1/) ?

No, same message: This webpage is not available. Error 109 (net::ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE): Unknown error.
I seriously have no idea where to go from here.

Can you check behavior of LEDs of your ADSL router, to check if PC communicates with router.

Yes, they appear to be functioning correctly, as I said, the other os's on the same HD, (Ununtu, Windows XP, all can communicate w/ the router just fine. I have been looking at software packages available to see if I can dl any diagnostics, but I can't find anything that seems to be appropriate.

Try installing Wicd which will autoremove knetwork-manager and should make things nicer after a reboot

Additionally, for some reason I lost my GRUB about a month ago and couldn't figure out how to get it back. I ended up *further* partitioning the drive to put a bare bones Kubuntu 10.04 installation, thinking that it would install a GRUB as well, and that worked. Now I found after looking through the Software Center w/ Ubuntu, I found GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version). It says that in order to install, it must remove the Grand unified bootloader, version 2 (pc/bios version grub pc). Is this wise? I would like to get rid of the extraneous Kubuntu install and reclaim the 5 gigs of HD space. That last time I tried to delete it, I lost my GRUB too, so I am assuming that is the only install with a working GRUB. Which version is more current?--the legacy v. or v. 2? I know a lot of this stuff is prbably elementary for most, but I'm 55 and just learning Linux. Please help! BTW, I have an older Dell P4 2.4 Ghz. system that I'm using to play around with all this stuff.

Actionparsnip: As I will dl that from my Ubuntu install, will that fix the problem w/ my Kubuntu install since that is on a different partition? What about the GRUB issue? My thinking is that I've got too many conflicting things on the 3 different linux installs, but I still for the life of me can't figure out why I lost the network connection in Kubuntu to begin with?

I think it will be more easy to have same version of Grub in PC. Remind that first sector of disk is shared by all Grub bootloader installed in PC. And please, one issue per thread. People expert on network are not always on boot loading. And it makes thread very long and hard to follow. So please have a different thread for network and Grub issue.

OK delance, thank you. So just to be sure I understand you correctly, I can install the GRUB legacy version from my Ubuntu installation, allow it to replace the GRUB v.2., I should be fine?Cause if not, this takes about three hours to fix. Thanks for your help...

Do you want to keep both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, or do you want to keep only Ubuntu ?

I wold like to keep Ubuntu w/ its Gnome DE, Kubuntu w/ its KDE, and Windows XP, which I need for work. As I said, I am new to Linux, and am trying to learn more about the different interfaces. If worse came to worse, I could dump the Kubuntu install that I have done a lot of work on, and just keep the working bare-bones Kubuntu and configure that way I want, but that is a lot of work. If comeone culd tell me how to upload an image, I have a digital shot of my GRUB which may help.

I wold like to keep Ubuntu w/ its Gnome DE, Kubuntu w/ its KDE, and Windows XP, which I need for work. As I said, I am new to Linux, and am trying to learn more about the different interfaces. If worse came to worse, I could dump the Kubuntu install that I have done a lot of work on, and just keep the working bare-bones Kubuntu and configure that way I want, but that is a lot of work. If comeone culd tell me how to upload an image, I have a digital shot of my GRUB which may help.

You do not need to dual boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu, you could simply install Ubuntu (with gnome) and then install kubuntu-desktop and then pick which Desktop Manager at login (doesn't require a reboot to change).

Just thought I'd add that bit. :)

Jeruvy is right. It will be safer that having two installations of flavor of Ubuntu.
I should have thought before.

Notto argue, but I *would* like to figure out why Kubuntu stopped connecting to the net. Plus, I have spent many hours (days?) getting them set up the way I wanted them. If I followed your advice, wouldn't that basically mean wiping both installs and starting over? I have to use GRUB to choose between Windoze and linux everytime I boot up anyway, and I don't find it particularly onerous.

I never used Kubuntu, but you will have to configure only software used from one side and not the other one.
If you did lot of complex configuration, their files should be in home folder with filename like .software_name. To see them, run command "ls -a". For common software, you will have nothing to do.

Also, I have no problem w/ each having their own partition--what I'm doing isn't space-intensive, i.e., I can have a 'buntu install on a 20something Gb or so partition and still have space left over--I'm just trying to experiment with them and get comfortable using them for different things.At this point, my ideal set-up would be: 1 HD w/ 3 relatively equal partitions consisting of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Windows XP (sorry to the purists, I don't like it much either, but until I can convince my workplace to convert...) and an additional slave HD of Solaris, just so I can get a working knowledge of them . I don't have a problem choosing which one to use upon boot. But I need to ask those who know--is this even realistic? At this point, I'm still just trying to figure out why Kubuntu won't connect on-line? I can post whatever screenshots that are necessary if you think it would help with the "differential diagnosis".

I'm not expert in network but more on multi-boot.
Do you have currently a quadruple-boot with Solaris working ? It's not a small task ! Or do you plan to have it ?

No, a triple boot on one drive and a blank slave to do the Solaris install. I just have to figure out how to change the boot order as a have a live openSolaris CD, but it is not listing the second drive as an option. Augh!

delance, I did finish installing OpenSolaris on my second drive--it seemed to go OK but I will have to figure out how to boot from drive on start up. Solaris said it came w GRUB v .98 but that doesn't make any difference if I can't get to the drive! It seems as though all my issues (except for Kubuntu non-connectivity) lead back to the GRUB. Any ideas? Oh, and I don't have a network--my other system is an iMac.

Which version of Ubuntu are you using ?

I propose we fix first extraneous Kubuntu installed and Grub.
For this I need partition table and location of different OSes.
Could you run the following script, and tell me at which partition are Ubuntu and Kubuntu you want to keep. Please plug external disk during this procedure.
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provide data about boot configuration

There is a standard script provided to analyze boot configuration.

Could you download script at:

   http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/

Then in a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) run command:

    sudo bash boot_info_script055.sh

This will produce a file named: RESULTS.txt

Paste content of this file in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and provide in this thread the link to Web page.

Please don't post file directly in thread, else it will make thread difficult to read.