Disabled Floppy in Kubuntu

Asked by EdWh

I am running Kubuntu on a seperate machine with WinXP and I have loaded Kubuntu 3 times and each time the floppy drive is not accessable. It works fine in XP so it is not mechanical or a electrical problem. It is loaded into the fstab file even though some commands to mount, return it cannot be found. It appears that the drive has been disabled by the operating system. I run Ubuntu on another machine and the floppy works fine there!!! If the Kubuntu system has been modified to prevent it use, I will go with Uburntu. Can anyone help, my email should be listedbut will check back here shortly. Thanks. EdWh

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#1

Please check the following:
Execute:
dmesg | grep fd
in a console and see if the following line is present:
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
or if any error messages show up. Post the messages (better the whole output) here.
If the line shows up and you cannot see any error messages, insert a floppy into your drive and execute the following in a console:
sudo mkdir /media/floppy
sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
sudo umount /dev/fd0
Post any error message here if the commands fail. After you have done that we can proceed.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#2

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> Please check the following:
> Execute:
> dmesg | grep fd
> in a console and see if the following line is present:
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> or if any error messages show up. Post the messages (better the whole output) here.
> If the line shows up and you cannot see any error messages, insert a floppy into your drive and execute the following in a console:
> sudo mkdir /media/floppy
> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
> sudo umount /dev/fd0
> Post any error message here if the commands fail. After you have done that we can proceed.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
>
Hi Support, (fhackenberger ticket 3432)

    I opened your email on the Ubuntu Machine so have to send info to
you manually. Following results for your info.
dmesg | grep fd generated following.
[1719569. l840000 mapped apic to fffd000 (fee0000).
[1719586.344000]eth0: via Rhine II at oxle800, 00: of: ca:fa: fd: cc:,
Irq 185.
[1719586.612000] floppy drive is 1.44m

Results - Sudo mkdir /media/floppy
(mkdir: cannot creat directory 'media/floppy:' file exists.

Result of: sudo mount /dev fdo /media/floppy.
(mounts and displays a floppy image. Double clicking opens the file o.k.)
Results of: sudo umount /dev/fdo
(unmounts o.k.)

Using same floppy still will not mount as auto or display floppy image.
But I know it is working as manual. Seems somthing is missing for auto
mount!! I have not been using sudo for mount or umount commands did
not know I should.

Will open mail on Kubuntu Machine until we get this corrected, really
appreciate your help.

                            Thanks. Ed. Welch

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Marco Maini (maini10) said :
#3

Please post the file /etc/fstab.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#4

Maini Marco wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Maini Marco requested for more information:
> Please post the file /etc/fstab.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> I previously answered the more information request to your (Fhackenberger, ticket# 3432 this morning but will gladly repeat for more info.
>
Following the instructions, the following results are furnished.
In terminal, I entered as you requested. "sudo dmesg | fd which
generated these results.
[1719569.1840000 mapped apic to fffd000 (fee0000).
[1719586. 344000] eth0: via Rhine II at oxle800, 00: of: ca: fd: cc:,
irq 185.
[1719586, 612000] floppy drive is 1.44m.

results in terminal of- sudo mkdir /media/floppy, returned,
(mkdir: cannot creat directory 'media floppy' file exists .

Results in terminal of: sudo mount /dev/ fd0 media floppy, mounted
device and displayed floppy, double clicking on floppy image opened the
file it contained.

Results in termnal of: sudo umount /dev/fd0, . unmounted the file and
device. I entered this twice and it works well, mounts and unmounts
device and displays file.

Device still does not auto mount upon insertion of floppy into drive.
In my attempts to mount and unmount I did not use "sudo" as opening a
floppy is a routine event to me not a superuser job, but will use it
more often now.

Please advise how to proceed to make this device perform as auto upon
insertion of floppy into drive, hope info helps.

                                  Thanks. Mr. Welch

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#5

Maini Marco wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> Maini Marco requested for more information:
> Please post the file /etc/fstab.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> I previously answered the more information request to your (Fhackenberger, ticket# 3432 this morning but will gladly repeat for more info.
>
Following the instructions, the following results are furnished.
In terminal, I entered as you requested. "sudo dmesg | fd which
generated these results.
[1719569.1840000 mapped apic to fffd000 (fee0000).
[1719586. 344000] eth0: via Rhine II at oxle800, 00: of: ca: fd: cc:,
irq 185.
[1719586, 612000] floppy drive is 1.44m.

results in terminal of- sudo mkdir /media/floppy, returned,
(mkdir: cannot creat directory 'media floppy' file exists .

Results in terminal of: sudo mount /dev/ fd0 media floppy, mounted
device and displayed floppy, double clicking on floppy image opened the
file it contained.

Results in termnal of: sudo umount /dev/fd0, . unmounted the file and
device. I entered this twice and it works well, mounts and unmounts
device and displays file.

Device still does not auto mount upon insertion of floppy into drive.
In my attempts to mount and unmount I did not use "sudo" as opening a
floppy is a routine event to me not a superuser job, but will use it
more often now.

Please advise how to proceed to make this device perform as auto upon
insertion of floppy into drive, hope info helps.

                                  Thanks. Mr. Welch

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#6

I have provided all the information I have and have received no further instructions to reslove the problem, your help is appreciated.
For your information my ISP has a problem with spam almost shutting down their server so messages may be slow to get through. Thanks again.
At this point I am able to mount and unmount my floppy drive but it will not work in auto. Mr. Welch

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#7

Sorry, I was unable to read my mails, as I was busy with other things. I would still need the content of /etc/fstab Please post it here.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#8

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> Sorry, I was unable to read my mails, as I was busy with other things. I
> would still need the content of /etc/fstab Please post it here.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
>
Attn: fhackenberger, thanks for help.
In reply to your request the following is submittted:

In terminal the command: dmesg | gre[ fd. generated the following.

[1719569. 1840000 mapped apic to fffd0900 (fee000).
[1719586. 344000] etg0: via Rhine 11 at oxle800, 00: of: ca: fa: fd:
cc:, Irq 185.
[1719586, 612000 ] floppy drive is 1.44m

Results of - sudo mkdir ?media/floppy displayed, (mkdir: cannot creat
directory 'media/floppy:' file exaists.

Results of -Sudo mount /dev fdo /media/floppy, mounts and displays
floppy image and clicking on opens file.
results of- Sudo umount /dev/fdo, -- unmounts o.k. and closes all.

I did not realilze that mounting floppy in terminal is a superuser task.
to me floppy use is basic for all who use
computer, any computer but will run all in root terminal in future.
Can link to auto mount be established to run
as system intended. I have Ubuntu on another machine no problems!
Loaded Kubuntu three times twice with cd from France and once with ISO
download, same results, floppy disabled!!
                                  Thanks. Mr. Welch

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#9

I'm sure it is possible to get a floppy icon on your desktop, which you can use to mount/umount your floppy drive. Just paste the content of /etc/fstab here and I will tell you what you have to modify.

Please also post the output of:
groups YOURUSERNAMEHERE
I want to check if you are a member of the floppy group.

Mounting / unmounting is always a task which can only be performed by a user with sufficient permissions to the raw device file. Therefore your user is member of the plugdev group which enables you to mount usb sticks. This is for security and is a feature. However the fact that you cannot access your floppy with your default user is a bug. But we'll fix it.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#10

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> I'm sure it is possible to get a floppy icon on your desktop, which you
> can use to mount/umount your floppy drive. Just paste the content of
> /etc/fstab here and I will tell you what you have to modify.
>
> Please also post the output of:
> groups YOURUSERNAMEHERE
> I want to check if you are a member of the floppy group.
>
> Mounting / unmounting is always a task which can only be performed by a
> user with sufficient permissions to the raw device file. Therefore your
> user is member of the plugdev group which enables you to mount usb
> sticks. This is for security and is a feature. However the fact that you
> cannot access your floppy with your default user is a bug. But we'll fix
> it.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Hi Support,
>

I have no idea how to post the output of user group. This is my
computer, I bought it and I paid for it. No one else uses it I own it!!!
I hopefully attached a copy of the Konsole with the file fstab opened. I
had to open it changing to the mnt directory to display. If you really
want the the ouput of the user group you will have to advise me how to
open same there is no user group on this computer, I am sole owner and
user and have no network.

I also bought the cd's one from Amazon and two from the cd linux
supplier in France and downloaded the ISO's one for Ubuntu and one for
Kubuntu,

  Mr. Welch

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#11

Sorry I was unaware of the fact that your are a new Linux user. Please do the following:
Open a new terminal by starting Konsole.
type the following (while replacing YOURUSERNAMEHERE with your actual username) and press enter:
groups YOURUSERNAMEHERE
Now copy the output and paste it here. Then type
cat /etc/fstab
press enter again and post this output as well.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#12

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> Sorry I was unaware of the fact that your are a new Linux user. Please do the following:
> Open a new terminal by starting Konsole.
> type the following (while replacing YOURUSERNAMEHERE with your actual username) and press enter:
> groups YOURUSERNAMEHERE
> Now copy the output and paste it here. Then type
> cat /etc/fstab
> press enter again and post this output as well.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> To- fhachenberger
>
I opened Konsole and typed the "cat//fstab and selected copy and opened
this reply and right clicked and selected paste twice but I do not see
the file. I do not understand the typing of grups- YOURUSERNAMEHER.
I attempted to type but it keeps out putting no such command. Sorry I
cannot understand you.
I have installed Ubuntu on one computer and Kubuntu on another in a
attempt to become familiar with Linux so I can help others in this area
to switch as for windows user this is a difficult swith, I have not used
DOS for over 15 years and forgotten what I did learn as I switched to
windows with 3.1, 95, etc.
I build all my own computers and this one is running on a dual boot
system with XP as well as the other with Ubuntu installed, which I am
having no problem with at all, my problems are all with Kubuntu and
mostly trying to fix the broken install of a improper loaded floppy.
I am trying to learn commands but I wish to go no further than to be
able to go in and fix a file if necessary and download in command line
some programs not in the graphic download.
Sorry to be a problem to you but at this point I am about ready to just
forget Kubuntu and stick with Ubuntu it all depends on this outcome.
By the way, when you say post outcome here, there is nothing open but
the incoming mail, I check on the reply and hope it is correct.
                Mr. Welch

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#13

Ok once again. Click on the K menu then System->Konsole Terminal Program. Now you should have the Konsole open. Now
type "cat /etc/fstab" (with the double quotes) and press enter. The command cat (as you can read when typing "man cat") just prints the content of a text file on your terminal (Konsole). It should show a few lines of text (that is the content of the file) similar to the following output:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
UUID=284690ba-5f24-4691-a8a2-1830fe19cf00 / reiserfs notail 0 1

Please copy this text and paste it here. You can copy either by just selecting the text with your mouse and pressing the middle mouse button (or the left and right button at the same time) where you want to paste it (that is the Unix way of copy/paste), or select the text, right click, then select copy, go to the email window and right click and select paste. If all that does not work (but I am sure it does), just attach (using your email program) the file /etc/fstab to the email.
For the second part:
Open a konsole window like you did before and type "groups YOURNAME", where YOURNAME is your username as you typed it when logging into the system. In my case I would type "groups hacki". This produces an output like:

hacki : hacki adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin nvram ntfs

That means that your user is a member of all these groups. Each group corresponds to certain tasks your are allowed to perform. Copy and paste this output into the email. Please don't give up. You should really be able to do that. And please go and read some introductory texts like these:

The Kubuntu Desktop Guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html

Introduction to Linux
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html

GNU/Linux Command-Line Tools Summary
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/index.html

Linux Filesystem Hierarchy
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#14

For to tell you:
cat /etc/fstab
There is only ONE space in this command. And that is after cat. /etc/fstab is written together without any spaces, as it is a file path. The directory in this case is /etc and the filename is fstab.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#15

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> Ok once again. Click on the K menu then System->Konsole Terminal Program. Now you should have the Konsole open. Now
> type "cat /etc/fstab" (with the double quotes) and press enter. The command cat (as you can read when typing "man cat") just prints the content of a text file on your terminal (Konsole). It should show a few lines of text (that is the content of the file) similar to the following output:
>
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> UUID=284690ba-5f24-4691-a8a2-1830fe19cf00 / reiserfs notail 0 1
>
> Please copy this text and paste it here. You can copy either by just selecting the text with your mouse and pressing the middle mouse button (or the left and right button at the same time) where you want to paste it (that is the Unix way of copy/paste), or select the text, right click, then select copy, go to the email window and right click and select paste. If all that does not work (but I am sure it does), just attach (using your email program) the file /etc/fstab to the email.
> For the second part:
> Open a konsole window like you did before and type "groups YOURNAME", where YOURNAME is your username as you typed it when logging into the system. In my case I would type "groups hacki". This produces an output like:
>
> hacki : hacki adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin
> scanner admin nvram ntfs
>
> That means that your user is a member of all these groups. Each group
> corresponds to certain tasks your are allowed to perform. Copy and paste
> this output into the email. Please don't give up. You should really be
> able to do that. And please go and read some introductory texts like
> these:
>
> The Kubuntu Desktop Guide
> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
>
> Introduction to Linux
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
>
> GNU/Linux Command-Line Tools Summary
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/index.html
>
> Linux Filesystem Hierarchy
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Hi Fhackenberger,
>
I am not having problems with the fstab file my problem was with the
user group file. I am using Mozilla Thunderbird so for me sending as a
attachment works well. I use Thunderbird as I am able to copy my emails
from WinXP to it easily. I have attached a copy of both of your requests
as a email attachment. I know this in more than likely a nuisance and
it has been a problem to me as well, I have sent a copy to myself to see
if both outputs are attached if not will repeat anyone lacking.

I really appreciate your help and I would appreciate your taking the
time to read the following. As I mentioned I am installing Kubuntu and
Ubuntu to I can learn enough to help any other Win user to get away from
Windows and Uncle Bill who to me he is greed at its upmost. Anyway when
I installed Kubuntu and opened the desktop I could not even get into the
system to set up a user account as it would not take the original
password I set up and was looking for the user password. After much
googling I found a site that gave me the strings to change the desktop
back from Edgy to Dapper and force Kubuntu to unzip and untar files, and
the program then became useful to me, and that is when I ran into the
floppy problem. I do not know how many others trying to install Kubuntu
have run into these problems but just these two items are enough to
discourage many Windows users from the Kubuntu system. I have been
sticking with this as I am learning all the while. I posted the
problem with the floppy in the Linux forum twice and received no replies
so finally came here and as I said, I appreciate your sticking with me
on this.

The Ubuntu installation has none of these problems, and as I remember
the only command I had to run was to download the Automatix2 and use
gdebi to install and from then on I had more than enough graphic
programs to load anything and much more than I needed. The reason I am
relating this to you is that you might see how difficult it is for a Win
user to change to Linux unless that person has command line
experience. I do not know where you stand in the Kubuntu- Ubuntu
community but if it is really the desire to have more Windows users
switch more help for them is needed.

I printed out your email and will visit the sites you listed. I have
been using the TuxFiles and even bought a training video but none of
them are geared to a true beginner, they all start much deeper into the
system or in the case of the TuxFiles which are geared to write script
which is not my desire. I hope this will give you some insight into
the problems I am encountering to learn more and not try your patience

                                   Thanks Again. Ed.

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Exec=konsole
Icon=konsole
DocPath=konsole/index.html
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X-KDE-StartupNotify=true

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GenericName[gl]=Programa de Terminal
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GenericName[hi]=टर्मिनल प्रोग्राम
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GenericName[is]=Skjáhermir
GenericName[it]=Programma terminale
GenericName[ja]=ターミナルプログラム
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GenericName[tt]=Terminal Yazılımı
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GenericName[vi]=Trình đầu cuối
GenericName[wa]=Programe di terminå
GenericName[xh]=Inkqubo Yesixhobo sangaphandle sekhompyutha
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X-DCOP-ServiceType=Multi
X-KDE-AuthorizeAction=shell_access
Categories=Qt;KDE;System;TerminalEmulator;
X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#16

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> Ok once again. Click on the K menu then System->Konsole Terminal Program. Now you should have the Konsole open. Now
> type "cat /etc/fstab" (with the double quotes) and press enter. The command cat (as you can read when typing "man cat") just prints the content of a text file on your terminal (Konsole). It should show a few lines of text (that is the content of the file) similar to the following output:
>
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> UUID=284690ba-5f24-4691-a8a2-1830fe19cf00 / reiserfs notail 0 1
>
> Please copy this text and paste it here. You can copy either by just selecting the text with your mouse and pressing the middle mouse button (or the left and right button at the same time) where you want to paste it (that is the Unix way of copy/paste), or select the text, right click, then select copy, go to the email window and right click and select paste. If all that does not work (but I am sure it does), just attach (using your email program) the file /etc/fstab to the email.
> For the second part:
> Open a konsole window like you did before and type "groups YOURNAME", where YOURNAME is your username as you typed it when logging into the system. In my case I would type "groups hacki". This produces an output like:
>
> hacki : hacki adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin
> scanner admin nvram ntfs
>
> That means that your user is a member of all these groups. Each group
> corresponds to certain tasks your are allowed to perform. Copy and paste
> this output into the email. Please don't give up. You should really be
> able to do that. And please go and read some introductory texts like
> these:
>
> The Kubuntu Desktop Guide
> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
>
> Introduction to Linux
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
>
> GNU/Linux Command-Line Tools Summary
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/index.html
>
> Linux Filesystem Hierarchy
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
>
>
Hi -

Sending user group again appears did not go through. Ed.

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Type=Application
Exec=konsole
Icon=konsole
DocPath=konsole/index.html
Terminal=false
X-KDE-StartupNotify=true

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Name[az]=Konsol
Name[be]=Кансоля
Name[bg]=Конзола
Name[bn]=কনসোল
Name[bs]=Konzola
Name[ca]=Consola
Name[el]=Κονσόλα
Name[eo]=Konzolo
Name[et]=Konsool
Name[eu]=Kontsola
Name[he]=מסוף
Name[hi]=कंसोल
Name[hr]=Konzola
Name[is]=Skjáhermir
Name[ja]=コンソール
Name[ko]=KDE용 콘솔
Name[lo]=ຄອນໂຊລ - K
Name[mk]=Конзола
Name[mn]=Консол
Name[nb]=Konsoll
Name[nn]=Konsoll
Name[pa]=ਕੰਨਸੋਲ
Name[pl]=Konsola
Name[ro]=Consolă
Name[ru]=Консоль
Name[se]=Konsolla
Name[sk]=Konzola
Name[sl]=Konzola
Name[ta]=கான்சோல்
Name[tg]=Консол
Name[th]=คอนโซล K
Name[zu]=Ikhonsoli

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GenericName[ar]=برنامج تيرمينال
GenericName[az]=Terminal Proqramı
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GenericName[bg]=Терминална програма
GenericName[bn]=টার্মিনাল প্রোগ্রাম
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GenericName[de]=Terminalprogramm
GenericName[el]=Πρόγραμμα τερματικού
GenericName[eo]=Terminalimitaĵo
GenericName[es]=Programa de terminal
GenericName[et]=Terminaliemulaator
GenericName[eu]=Terminal programa
GenericName[fa]=برنامۀ پایانه
GenericName[fi]=Komentoikkunaohjelma
GenericName[fr]=Terminal
GenericName[fy]=Terminalprogramma
GenericName[ga]=Clár teirminéil
GenericName[gl]=Programa de Terminal
GenericName[he]=תוכנית מסוף
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GenericName[is]=Skjáhermir
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GenericName[ja]=ターミナルプログラム
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GenericName[lv]=Termināla Programma
GenericName[mk]=Терминалска програма
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GenericName[mt]=Programm ta' terminal
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GenericName[tt]=Terminal Yazılımı
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GenericName[vi]=Trình đầu cuối
GenericName[wa]=Programe di terminå
GenericName[xh]=Inkqubo Yesixhobo sangaphandle sekhompyutha
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X-DCOP-ServiceType=Multi
X-KDE-AuthorizeAction=shell_access
Categories=Qt;KDE;System;TerminalEmulator;
X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=desktop_kdebase

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#17

The problem you are experiencing is probably just a bug in Kubuntu. The bug is probably fixable within a few minutes if the right information is provided. The email I got from you does still neither include the /etc/fstab file nor the output from the "groups YOURUSERNAME" command. To me it seems that you drag the Konsole icon to your email client. Why don't you just follow my advice? Open Thunderbird, click on "Write" (new email) then click on "Attach", click on "File System" under "Places" on the left, click on the folder "etc" on the right and finally click on "fstab". Execute the command "groups YOURUSERNAME" in Konsole (as explained twice above) and paste the output as TEXT into your email. If you cannot manage to do that, the fstab file will probably suffice, but I need at least this file! Please read my instructions CAREFULLY and do EXACTLY what I told you. Instead of emailing the output from "groups YOURUSERNAME" and the fstab file you could also paste it on http://pastebin.com/ I'm not getting paid for supporting you. I'd really like to help you but spending that much time on such a simple issue just isn't worth it. We can resolve your problem easily if you pay attention. So PLEASE read my emails twice from the beginning and enable your brain.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#18

On Monday 05 February 2007 22:12, EdWh wrote:
> Sending user group again appears did not go through. Ed.
That is not the output from the "groups username" command, but the konsole
desktop file. I replied to your request on launchpad again, please read my
answer there.

Regards,
 Florian
--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#19

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Needs information
>
> fhackenberger requested for more information:
> The problem you are experiencing is probably just a bug in Kubuntu. The
> bug is probably fixable within a few minutes if the right information is
> provided. The email I got from you does still neither include the
> /etc/fstab file nor the output from the "groups YOURUSERNAME" command.
> To me it seems that you drag the Konsole icon to your email client. Why
> don't you just follow my advice? Open Thunderbird, click on "Write" (new
> email) then click on "Attach", click on "File System" under "Places" on
> the left, click on the folder "etc" on the right and finally click on
> "fstab". Execute the command "groups YOURUSERNAME" in Konsole (as
> explained twice above) and paste the output as TEXT into your email. If
> you cannot manage to do that, the fstab file will probably suffice, but
> I need at least this file! Please read my instructions CAREFULLY and do
> EXACTLY what I told you. Instead of emailing the output from "groups
> YOURUSERNAME" and the fstab file you could also paste it on
> http://pastebin.com/ I'm not getting paid for supporting you. I'd really
> like to help you but spending that much time on such a simple issue just
> isn't worth it. We can resolve your problem easily if you pay attention.
> So PLEASE read my emails twice from the beginning and enable your brain.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> To answer this request for more information, you can either reply to
> this email or enter your reply at the following page:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Hi hacki,
>

I followed your advise to the letter and clicking on file, the display
does not show the file /etc/fstab. I have been opening the attachment
to the email and browsing to the opened Konsole and selecting open and
it shows as a attachment in the email but it is not the same as the
display in Konsole. I guess it is best for both of us to just give it
up. The proceedure is the same as used in windows and works just fine
there, but neither your proceedure or the windows is working
properly. Thanks for the help. Ed.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#20

On Monday 05 February 2007 22:42, EdWh wrote:
> I followed your advise to the letter and clicking on file, the display
> does not show the file /etc/fstab.
> I have been opening the attachment
> to the email and browsing to the opened Konsole and selecting open and
> it shows as a attachment in the email but it is not the same as the
> display in Konsole.
No we will not give up, I took some screenshots for you:

Go to http://www.hackenberger.at/kdefloppy

Now click on each file sequentially and read my comments below:
web_floppy1.jpg: Click on the K menu
2: Click on Konsole Terminal program to open Konsole
3: Now you have a new terminal window
4: Type "cat /etc/fstab" and press enter
5: There is the content of /etc/fstab
6: Select the content with your mouse (right click and drag)
7: Click right and select copy
8: Open a new Mail in Thunderbird, right click on the text field and click
paste
9: There it is, wasn't that easy?
10: switch back to Konsole (you didn't close it did you?). Type "groups
YOURUSERNAME" (replace YOURUSERNAME with your username) and press enter
11: There is the output
12: Select it, click right and click copy
13: Go back to your email window, right click and select paste
14: There is the output, voilá.
15: Now minimise all your windows, right click on the desktop, select "create
new", then "Link to device", then click "Floppy Device"
16: Select the third tab and type "/dev/fd0" into the input field "Device"
17: Click OK, and there is your floppy icon

Now check if the icon works (insert floppy and click it) and send the email
you prepared during my little screenshot procedure.

Regards,
 Florian

--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#21

Hi Florian,

Her is results of your directions. Thanks Ed.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#22

Well, where is the result?

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#23

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> fhackenberger proposed the following answer:
> On Monday 05 February 2007 22:42, EdWh wrote:
>
>> I followed your advise to the letter and clicking on file, the display
>> does not show the file /etc/fstab.
>> I have been opening the attachment
>> to the email and browsing to the opened Konsole and selecting open and
>> it shows as a attachment in the email but it is not the same as the
>> display in Konsole.
>>
> No we will not give up, I took some screenshots for you:
>
> Go to http://www.hackenberger.at/kdefloppy
>
> Now click on each file sequentially and read my comments below:
> web_floppy1.jpg: Click on the K menu
> 2: Click on Konsole Terminal program to open Konsole
> 3: Now you have a new terminal window
> 4: Type "cat /etc/fstab" and press enter
> 5: There is the content of /etc/fstab
> 6: Select the content with your mouse (right click and drag)
> 7: Click right and select copy
> 8: Open a new Mail in Thunderbird, right click on the text field and click
> paste
> 9: There it is, wasn't that easy?
> 10: switch back to Konsole (you didn't close it did you?). Type "groups
> YOURUSERNAME" (replace YOURUSERNAME with your username) and press enter
> 11: There is the output
> 12: Select it, click right and click copy
> 13: Go back to your email window, right click and select paste
> 14: There is the output, voilá.
> 15: Now minimise all your windows, right click on the desktop, select "create
> new", then "Link to device", then click "Floppy Device"
> 16: Select the third tab and type "/dev/fd0" into the input field "Device"
> 17: Click OK, and there is your floppy icon
>
> Now check if the icon works (insert floppy and click it) and send the email
> you prepared during my little screenshot procedure.
>
> Regards,
> Florian
>
>
Hi Florian

I sent you a previous email and a copy to myself to see results of your
directions, as you can see the files do not copy to the email. I am
trying to find a way to put the files on the desktop and then browse to
them and attach. As of now it appears the operating system is not
working properly or the Thunderbird, do not know which.
Thanks. Ed. h

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#24

fhackenberger wrote:d@ed-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=8766c4f8-1acc-4561-9a5f-2c7973f300f8 / ext3
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda1
UUID=F6C48D46C48D09D7 /media/sda1 ntfs
defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sda2
UUID=E610-E612 /media/sda2 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=542548eb-f017-41c4-aa04-45c302f312ec none swap
sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
ed@ed-desktop:~$

Hi Florian-

I copied this from the Konsole to the clipboard and then pasted here
with the results of the groups also but this overwrote the groups, will
send you another email with results of groups it is only way I can send
has to be bug in system. Ed.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#25

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> fhackenberger proposed the following answer:
> On Monday 05 February 2007 22:42, EdWh wrote:
>
>> I followed your advise to the letter and clicking on file, the display
>> does not show the file /etc/fstab.
>> I have been opening the attachment
>> to the email and browsing to the opened Konsole and selecting open and
>> it shows as a attachment in the email but it is not the same as the
>> display in Konsole.
>>
> ed@ed-desktop:~$ groups ed
> ed : ed adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin
> scanner admin
> ed@ed-desktop:~$
>
Hi again Florian,

Here is results of 2nd copy to clipboard then to here. I have to
highlight all text in Konsole to copy to clipboard and then paste it
here but it works but only one at a time. I really do not know if
with all the bugs the system is worth keeping or if there is a way to
clean it up.
                                    Ed

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#26

On Tuesday 06 February 2007 17:15, EdWh wrote:
> I sent you a previous email and a copy to myself to see results of your
> directions, as you can see the files do not copy to the email. I am
> trying to find a way to put the files on the desktop and then browse to
> them and attach.
What the heck are you doing? There is NO FILE ATTACHING INVOLVED! It's just
plain copy and paste. As you can see in the screenshots the CONTENT of the
file is just TEXT IN THE EMAIL.

> As of now it appears the operating system is not
> working properly or the Thunderbird, do not know which.
I don't think that is the case!

BTW I just got your next email, which finally contains the fstab content. But
what went wrong? What was the problem during the last three days?

I can see the problem. The line:
/dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
should actually read
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

In order to change the line, open a Konsole window and type:
sudo nano /etc/fstab
Type in your password (it does not show anything while you are typing, that is
a security feature) and change the line as seen above.

Then try the floppy icon you created on your desktop.

Regards, Flo

--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#27

On Tuesday 06 February 2007 17:33, EdWh wrote:
> I really do not know if
> with all the bugs the system is worth keeping or if there is a way to
> clean it up.
While Kubuntu is far from being perfect, in this case I suspect that you are
the problem. You should familiarise yourself with copy and paste concepts.
Here is a starting point:
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/paste.html

Regards,
 Florian

--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#28

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> Status: Open => Answered
>
> fhackenberger proposed the following answer:
> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 17:15, EdWh wrote:
>
>> I sent you a previous email and a copy to myself to see results of your
>> directions, as you can see the files do not copy to the email. I am
>> trying to find a way to put the files on the desktop and then browse to
>> them and attach.
>>
> What the heck are you doing? There is NO FILE ATTACHING INVOLVED! It's just
> plain copy and paste. As you can see in the screenshots the CONTENT of the
> file is just TEXT IN THE EMAIL.
>
>
>> As of now it appears the operating system is not
>> working properly or the Thunderbird, do not know which.
>>
> I don't think that is the case!
>
> BTW I just got your next email, which finally contains the fstab content. But
> what went wrong? What was the problem during the last three days?
>
> I can see the problem. The line:
> /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
> should actually read
> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
>
> In order to change the line, open a Konsole window and type:
> sudo nano /etc/fstab
> Type in your password (it does not show anything while you are typing, that is
> a security feature) and change the line as seen above.
>
> Then try the floppy icon you created on your desktop.
>
> Regards, Flo
>
>
Hi Flo,

Opened file and edited and saved as default no other option to save and
the notation keeps reverting back to original, how do I save as
permanent change? Thanks for the help will do more with file handling
as you suggested. Only way I can save is to use clipboard, highlight
the text to send and paste to email. Sorry to be a problem
but it is really appreciated. I learned a lot from you!! Ed.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#29

On Tuesday 06 February 2007 18:21, EdWh wrote:
> Opened file and edited and saved as default no other option to save and
> the notation keeps reverting back to original, how do I save as
> permanent change?
While I don't understand what you mean with "the notation keeps reverting back
to original", here is the procedure to edit the file:

Type
sudo nano /etc/fstab
and press enter, now the file should show up on your konsole screen. Use the
cursor keys to navigate to the line I mentioned and append fd0 so it reads
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
Now press Ctrl (keep it pressed) and press o. It will now ask for the
filename. Do not change it, just press enter. It will now say (at the bottom)
that the file was saved (in my case 'Wrote 11 lines'). That's it.

> Only way I can save is to use clipboard, highlight
> the text to send and paste to email.
Sorry, but how can you possibly use your email program to edit a file on your
computer? I just don't get what you are trying to do. Please follow the
instructions above.

Regards,
 Florian

--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#30

Forgot to mention that you can press Ctr-x to leave the editor (that it: hold
down the Ctrl key and press x). The Ctrl key may be labelled differently on
your keyboard, but it should be next to the Alt key.

Regards,
 Florian

--
Florian Hackenberger
student @
University of Technology
Graz, Austria
<email address hidden>
www.hackenberger.at

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#31

fhackenberger wrote:ed@ed-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=8766c4f8-1acc-4561-9a5f-2c7973f300f8 / ext3
defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda1
UUID=F6C48D46C48D09D7 /media/sda1 ntfs
defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
# /dev/sda2
UUID=E610-E612 /media/sda2 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46
0 1
# /dev/sda6
UUID=542548eb-f017-41c4-aa04-45c302f312ec none swap
sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
ed@ed-desktop:~$

Hi Florian,

Thanks for the help it corrected the problem, took me half hour did not
want to save changes had to reboot but finally took the change. Will go
to launchpad.net and finalize. Thanks Much.
Ed.

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Best EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#32

Thanks to Fhackenberger the problem has been resolved, seems a missing notation in the floppy mount was causing the problem. Florian was very kind indeed to stick with me as a new user to resolve problem and is very knowledgeable. Thanks. EdWh

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#33

I'm glad I could help, sorry for getting a bit frustrated lately. Just don't give up on the steep initial learning curve of Linux systems, it takes some time to get the grips but it's definitely worth it! There are tons of great information sources about Linux on the internet, you just have to find them, so google is your friend. And don't forget that the true power of Linux lies in its flexible shell interpreters (Konsole, running the bash shell in your case). Read a bit about it and you will soon be productive. Have fun! Cheers, Florian

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#34

Just for future reference: I added the following wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EditingFilesAsRoot
It explains how to edit a file as the superuser.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#35

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> fhackenberger posted a new comment:
> I'm glad I could help, sorry for getting a bit frustrated lately. Just
> don't give up on the steep initial learning curve of Linux systems, it
> takes some time to get the grips but it's definitely worth it! There are
> tons of great information sources about Linux on the internet, you just
> have to find them, so google is your friend. And don't forget that the
> true power of Linux lies in its flexible shell interpreters (Konsole,
> running the bash shell in your case). Read a bit about it and you will
> soon be productive. Have fun! Cheers, Florian
>
>
>
Hi Flo,

You have been a big help, you did not know it but I was looking to find
out how to edit files and your info to open nano gave me the tip I
needed, among other tips. I am answering you from my other machine
running XP on drive with Ubuntu. Working my butt off attempting to get
clipboard to the desktop so I can do the same here at with Kubuntu, as
of now there is no way to copy text of the terminal to email, except
using screen shot with Gimp which works great and also allows me to run
to printer. I am enjoying obtaining the knowledge but it takes a lot of
hours.

By the way, I am in upstate New York so it is Winter here and we are in
a ice box, daytime highs are in the teens. Lows at night 0 to -10f.
Drop a line once in a while and just to give you something to work on, I
checked the fstab file here in Ubuntu against the Kubuntu and it has no
fd0 in it but it loads floppy in auto. Seems must be another file
somewhere that has a problem, but not to worry what you did works fine.
Hope your summer down under is great and it does not get to hot, me I do
not like extremes cold or hot, I should live in Hawaii, 70 all year
around they say.

                                        Your friend. Ed.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#36

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> fhackenberger posted a new comment:
> Just for future reference: I added the following wiki page:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EditingFilesAsRoot
> It explains how to edit a file as the superuser.
> ed@ed-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> # /dev/sda4
> UUID=331ccf48-07ae-42ca-a8f1-981566346b37 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
> # /dev/sda6
> UUID=2196c207-05ee-47e5-9959-d923ac466ff8 none swap sw 0 0
> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
> /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
> /dev/ /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
> ed@ed-desktop:~$
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Flo,

    Attached is fstab for Ubuntu, copied using left mouse button to
hightlight text in terminal and opened reply to you with attachment, and
used center wheel which also clicks so does double duty. Just thought
you might like to see it. Thanks. Ed.

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#37

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> fhackenberger posted a new comment:
> Just for future reference: I added the following wiki page:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EditingFilesAsRoot
> It explains how to edit a file as the superuser
>
Hi Flo,

Thanks for the page, printed it out and added it to my manual which is
getting very large. There is so much info available it gets confusing
but as I said am sticking with it. Found a desktop graphic manger,
works same as clipboard in Kubuntu and even takes screen shot and copies
text to printer. link is- http://www.getdeb.net, file desktop data mgr.
0.8.10. Works great. If anyone needs its a deb pkg.
                                                    Thanks again. Ed.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#38

Hmm, attaching the fstab did not work...
-10 deg F, that is pretty cold indeed. BTW I'm Austrian as opposed to Australian (no kangaroos in Austria), and we have the mildest winter in centuries, the lowest temperatures (during night) are at 23 F. Blame the climate change.
I'll create a screencast about copy and paste in Ubuntu for you. Hang on.

Cheers, Florian

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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#39

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> fhackenberger posted a new comment:
> Hmm, attaching the fstab did not work...
> -10 deg F, that is pretty cold indeed. BTW I'm Austrian as opposed to Australian (no kangaroos in Austria), and we have the mildest winter in centuries, the lowest temperatures (during night) are at 23 F. Blame the climate change.
> I'll create a screencast about copy and paste in Ubuntu for you. Hang on.
>
> Cheers, Florian
>
>
>
Hi Florian,

    Sorry about the Australian mistake, and yes I know about Austria,
was in Bavaria years ago, drove down there from Munich in a French Fiat,
did not have the poop to climb the mountains so kicked it out of gear
and let it roll down as fast as it would go and then when it was losing
speed going up put in back in gear. Had a ball. Take your time on the
screen shot.
I just fnished cloning my hard drive to my back up drive so I do not
lose all the updates in case anything blows up. The clone is just that
a complete clone, byte by byte, partition to partition and takes about
30 to 45 minutes to complete. Did not for some reason carry over all
the book marks so had to reload them manually. Glad winter is mild
there, we have been mild up to the last two weeks buy the Lord caught up
with us and knows we need a bout of cold to clean up the air and
other. God is Good. Your Friend. Ed.

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Florian Hackenberger (f-hackenberger) said :
#40
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EdWh (ewelchngv) said :
#41

fhackenberger wrote:
> Your support request #3432 on gedit in ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+ticket/3432
>
> fhackenberger posted a new comment:
> I posted a screencast for you here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CopyAndPasteFromTerminalToEmail
>
>
>
Hi Florian

Thanks, works just fine with middle scroll wheel as button. Hope your
winter stays good, we just had 80 inches snow last 3 days and still
coming. 35 miles north of me, I have nothing, called good old lake
effect from Lake Ontario. Ed.

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Tiago Rinck Caveden (caveden) said :
#42

Hello!

Please, I'm having the same problem. I can mount floppy manually but I can't have it done automatically.
EdWh problem was just something wrongly written in /etc/fstab? Because mine seems OK, here's the file:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/hda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
UUID=e821e608-7a94-41c1-b8ca-dc9061dcf166 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/hda2
/dev/hda2 /dados ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap
/dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
#floppy
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

Can you see any problem?

My user is inside the floppy group and those first comments that were asked to be executed worked perfectly here, no error message...

Any ideas?

Thank you very much for any help!

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Tiago Rinck Caveden (caveden) said :
#43

Change "comments" by "commands" in the previous message, sorry.

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Tiago Rinck Caveden (caveden) said :
#44

Should I open another topic since this one is marked as "Solved" ?