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Frescobaldi is broken, shouldn't it be upgraded?

Asked by Abou Samra Jean

Frescobaldi 3.1 is known not to work with Python 3.10, which is the version of Python shipped in Ubuntu Jammy, which also ships Frescobaldi 3.1. See

https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1398

This issue has been fixed in Frescobaldi 3.2.

So, right now, the Frescobaldi package doesn't work at all. Is there a possibility to upgrade it even in this stable Ubuntu release? I mean, the purpose of being conservative about package upgrades is to preserve stability, but right now the package is unusable…

Thanks.

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Bernard Stafford (bernard010) said : 		#1

Python 3.10 ships with Jammy.
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/python3
Frescobaldi 3.1 ships with Jammy.
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/frescobaldi
Ubuntu Kinetic ships with Frescobaldi 3.2
https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/frescobaldi

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Bernard Stafford (bernard010) said : 		#2

Ubuntu is derived from Debian. Package will not upgrade until Kinetic.
FAQ #3037: “no rolling release”.

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Abou Samra Jean (jean-abou-samra) said : 		#3

> Python 3.10 ships with Jammy.
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/python3
> Frescobaldi 3.1 ships with Jammy.
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/frescobaldi

Yes, this is exactly the problem.

> Ubuntu Kinetic ships with Frescobaldi 3.2
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/frescobaldi

Yes, but Jammy is going to be around until 2027, would be nice to have a working Frescobaldi package there…

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Abou Samra Jean (jean-abou-samra) said : 		#4

> FAQ #3037: “no rolling release”.

On that page, I read:

“There are exceptions to this rule, e.g. a limited list of packages like kernel, timezone information, Firefox, and in case that severe weaknesses and/or bugs in a package justify an upgrade.”

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates says:

“Stable release updates will, in general, only be issued in order to fix high-impact bugs. Examples of such bugs include:

[...]

    Bugs which represent severe regressions from the previous release of Ubuntu. This includes packages which are totally unusable, like being uninstallable or crashing on startup.”

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Abou Samra Jean (jean-abou-samra) said : 		#5

By the way, I wasn't sure if it would be better to open this as a question or a bug report, should I rather turn it into a bug report?

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Best Bernard Stafford (bernard010) said (last edit ): 		#6

That sounds like a good idea, filing a bug report.
Please, use apport to collect additional information to be included.
Terminal ctl+alt+t : ubuntu-bug frescobaldi
Otherwise the bug report will be considered incomplete.
and i.e. it crashed or will not start, any steps you may have taken.

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Abou Samra Jean (jean-abou-samra) said : 		#7

Thanks, done. Sorry, I couldn't use apport because I don't use Ubuntu myself, I'm merely someone involved in the LilyPond community.

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Abou Samra Jean (jean-abou-samra) said : 		#8

Thanks Bernard Stafford, that solved my question.

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Bernard Stafford (bernard010) said : 		#9

You need to use Apport on your bug Report as mentioned above.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport