Firefox as Internet Explorer

Asked by Dave Allen

I have installed Wine using Winetricks as per instructions, but I cannot get it to execute Explorer. I have the Explorer files in C:Program Files/Internet Explorer; the .exe won't run. I pick up the location and add it into the Wine Applications list: it does not appear under Wine Programs: all I have is the free Notepad I gave up and tried to uninstall Wine but Internet Explorer insists that it needs repairing aand won't uninstall.
  So I deleted the .Wine directory and Removed the program, and it all seems now to have gone away.
  I'm running Ubuntu 8.10, with Windows Vista dual booted. (My bank will not talk to anthing but Explorer.) What can I do now (apart from changing my bank)?

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Tom (tom6) said :
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There's a plugin for Firefox that fools all those type of sites into thinking its Internet Explorer. Annoyingly i lost the link to it and now i can't find it when i hunt around in the Tools menu under Add-ons. I'm also not sure if it was in this Answers forum that i found the link :(

Does the term php sound familiar? Anyway, hopefully i will find the add-on soon but i bet you'd find it way before me so please post the link back into here when you do because i need it too.

Good luck and happy hunting from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#2

Guess what :))))

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

i found it by trying to post a new question and looked through the "Similar Questions" just under the Faq's bit

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/40324

This should solve the problem for you :)

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#3

I always find it interesting that people like that refuse to deal with any but the least secure of systems. They have so much experience of problems and security threats that they become totally paranoid and quake in fear of using systems that have a proven track-record of being more secure because the people that sell them the unsecure systems seem like the only people they can trust.

Another example is the fuss that office workers make when faced with an ".odt" document or ".txt". I have even been to a lot of places that completely block ".txt" files but happily allow ".doc" files through. Using a text-editor to look through a ".doc" file you can see a huge mess of different controls codes and wierd symbols - a great place to hide all kinds of rubbish.

Anyway, enough ranting for one day. Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Dave Allen (davidallen131) said :
#4

Nearly there! The add-on gets me into the bank (figuratively that is; robbers, do not try this!) The bank now tells me that to get all its wonderful services, I need ActiveX. Is it safe to load this on top of the add-on? Does it work if I do? thanks for the assistance anyway.
Dave :) :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#5

Here's a forum for the Agent-switching add-on

http://chrispederick.com/forums/

I'm not sure how to deal with ActiveX. I would have thought it was included but obviously not, sorry about that.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#6

Isn't it ActiveX that has a security leak that allows people to put pretty much any code they like anywhere they want and to do whatever they want into Vista systems?

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Best Steve Dodier-Lazaro (sidi) said :
#7

If your bank is too dumb to do anything else than ActiveX, there's little hope. ActiveX is a crappy and highly unsecure proprietary technology, only implemented in IE. In fact they claim you have to use IE for your security, while it's directly due to their obvious lack of skills (and wisdom).

As you can see on the appdb (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=469), IE is not meant to be directly usable via Wine (although Wine comes with a rough emulation of IE files in order to get the system to work, but they use gecko instead of IE's engine for all the web rendering stuff).

You should have a look at ies4linux : http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
It's a script that will allow you to successfully install IE under Ubuntu (i never tested it, though).

Have fun with it (and consider finding another bank, for your safety ;p).

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Dave Allen (davidallen131) said :
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I'll keep nagging the bank to get off IE. (They're otherwise too good to change!) TI know what use they make of AvtiveX, and approve of it, since this end is a single private machine, only switched on when in use. Thanks for all your advice and assistance,

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Tom (tom6) said :
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Yes your end is more secure than their's! Running linux and avoiding the famous browser that is so easily compromised with no ActiveX either makes you far more secure than your bank! My bank stopped bothering to ask me why i don't go for internet banking. I think there are some , perhaps 'Smile'(?) and people that were setup as internet banks rather than traditional banks trying to catch-up that are probably a bit more secure. Apparently my bank's site puts cookies on a machine as soon as it connects - aren't Windows users continually told that cookies are a risk and yet continually forced to accept them? At least in linux cookies are downloaded as a non-root user and so even if one was harmful to linux it wouldn't be able to activate itself :)

It all seems crazy to me.

Regards from
Tom

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Tom (tom6) said :
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I have seen Steve's link to IE4lnux before but hadn't remembered it. It looks pretty good and hunting around on their site i found references to ActiveX problems having been resolved. If i had remembered this one rather than the AgentSwitching one i would have suggested this. Hopefully this should work. To get to a command line for the instructions on this link just go up to the top taskbar and click on

Applications - Accessories - Terminal

which opens a terminal/command window/console. Terminal console made more sense back in the day when big network users had just a keyboard and monitor with no private machine to keep banging their knees against. I think these were either refferred to as 'workstations' or 'terminals' depending on who was talking.

Anyway, here's the links

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Beta

http://www.winehq.org/download/deb

The beta link is for IE7 rather than IE6 but IE6 should be fine. I just wondered if you wanted to experiment and be one of the beta testers for the project. More of us should do this more. Well, i should anyway ;) The Wine page looks quite old and "deb" packages have been widely accepted as standard for some years now and that page seems to refer to a beta version which definitely 'dates it'.

Right, good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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Dave Allen (davidallen131) said :
#11

   Thanks for the info. The next rainy weekend, when I'm not busy I might have a go at this.