New Installation of 10.10 has no adobe flash or java working

I forgot to say that a browser test was done by the people I am taking the course with and they said it showed that flash was now working but java was not installed.

Jim

Please open a terminal: ctrl+alt+t
## Java
Type:
sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre

Reference.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions

Sam:
Thanks for the quick response. I ran the script and restarted firefox but it gave me this message.

This courseware requires Java to be installed and enabled in your browser.
Please enable it, or if you need to install it, you can install the Sun JRE by clicking here.

Sit seems that this did not install properly. It may have been fault though. I ran the script while firefox was open! Mybad.

here is a copy of the script from the terminal for you to check.

jhlap@ubuntu:~/java$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[sudo] password for jhlap:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic linux-headers-2.6.35-22
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates-java icedtea-6-jre-cacao java-common libaccess-bridge-java
  libaccess-bridge-java-jni libgif4 openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
  ttf-dejavu-extra tzdata-java
Suggested packages:
  default-jre equivs icedtea6-plugin sun-java6-fonts ttf-sazanami-gothic
  ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-telugu-fonts
  ttf-oriya-fonts ttf-kannada-fonts ttf-bengali-fonts
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates-java icedtea-6-jre-cacao java-common libaccess-bridge-java
  libaccess-bridge-java-jni libgif4 openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless
  openjdk-6-jre-lib ttf-dejavu-extra tzdata-java
0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/36.4MB of archives.
After this operation, 96.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Selecting previously deselected package openjdk-6-jre-lib.
(Reading database ... 146748 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking openjdk-6-jre-lib (from .../openjdk-6-jre-lib_6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package tzdata-java.
Unpacking tzdata-java (from .../tzdata-java_2011d-0ubuntu0.10.10_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package java-common.
Unpacking java-common (from .../java-common_0.38_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package openjdk-6-jre-headless.
Unpacking openjdk-6-jre-headless (from .../openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package ca-certificates-java.
Unpacking ca-certificates-java (from .../ca-certificates-java_20100412_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libgif4.
Unpacking libgif4 (from .../libgif4_4.1.6-9_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libaccess-bridge-java-jni.
Unpacking libaccess-bridge-java-jni (from .../libaccess-bridge-java-jni_1.26.2-5_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package openjdk-6-jre.
Unpacking openjdk-6-jre (from .../openjdk-6-jre_6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libaccess-bridge-java.
Unpacking libaccess-bridge-java (from .../libaccess-bridge-java_1.26.2-5_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package ttf-dejavu-extra.
Unpacking ttf-dejavu-extra (from .../ttf-dejavu-extra_2.31-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package icedtea-6-jre-cacao.
Unpacking icedtea-6-jre-cacao (from .../icedtea-6-jre-cacao_6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for doc-base ...
Processing 2 added doc-base file(s)...
Registering documents with scrollkeeper...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for python-gmenu ...
Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/desktop.en_US.utf8.cache...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for fontconfig ...
Processing triggers for python-support ...
Setting up tzdata-java (2011d-0ubuntu0.10.10) ...
Setting up java-common (0.38) ...
Setting up libgif4 (4.1.6-9) ...
Setting up ttf-dejavu-extra (2.31-1) ...
Setting up openjdk-6-jre-lib (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up openjdk-6-jre-headless (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java to provide /usr/bin/java (java) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/keytool to provide /usr/bin/keytool (keytool) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/pack200 to provide /usr/bin/pack200 (pack200) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/rmid to provide /usr/bin/rmid (rmid) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/rmiregistry to provide /usr/bin/rmiregistry (rmiregistry) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/unpack200 to provide /usr/bin/unpack200 (unpack200) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/orbd to provide /usr/bin/orbd (orbd) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/servertool to provide /usr/bin/servertool (servertool) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/tnameserv to provide /usr/bin/tnameserv (tnameserv) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/jexec to provide /usr/bin/jexec (jexec) in auto mode.
Setting up libaccess-bridge-java (1.26.2-5) ...
Setting up libaccess-bridge-java-jni (1.26.2-5) ...
Setting up icedtea-6-jre-cacao (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1) ...
Setting up ca-certificates-java (20100412) ...
Setting up openjdk-6-jre (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/javaws to provide /usr/bin/javaws (javaws) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/pluginappletviewer to provide /usr/bin/pluginappletviewer (pluginappletviewer) in auto mode.
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/policytool to provide /usr/bin/policytool (policytool) in auto mode.
Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
ldconfig deferred processing now taking place

Is there something I can do to correct this error?

Jim

Verify which versions are installed, just in case there're more than one.
sudo update-java-alternatives -l

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java

Log out-in and test again.
You should see the applet there if it's correctly installed. (javascript needs to be enabled in browser)
http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

Try going to EDIT/PREFERENCES/CONTENT and make sure the box called Enable Javascript is checked.

That was in Mozilla

Sam and Andrew:
Thank you for your helpfulness you guys are the best!

Sam:
I ran your command and got the following:
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-java-alternatives -l
java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk

From the reference article you sent I also ran this command which showed alot of errors.
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-openjdk
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for appletviewer.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for apt.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for extcheck.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for idlj.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jar.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jarsigner.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for javac.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for javadoc.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for javah.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for javap.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jconsole.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jdb.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jhat.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jinfo.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jmap.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jps.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jrunscript.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jsadebugd.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jstack.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jstat.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for jstatd.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for mozilla-javaplugin.so.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for native2ascii.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for rmic.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for schemagen.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for serialver.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for wsgen.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for wsimport.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for xjc.
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/appletviewer
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/apt
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/extcheck
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/idlj
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jarsigner
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jar
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javadoc
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javah
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javap
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jconsole
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jdb
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jhat
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jinfo
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jmap
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jps
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jrunscript
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jsadebugd
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jstack
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jstatd
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/jstat
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/native2ascii
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/rmic
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/schemagen
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/serialver
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/wsgen
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/wsimport
update-java-alternatives: jdk alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/xjc
update-java-alternatives: plugin alternative does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so

Also Sam I logged out and back in but did not see the applet on the bar at the top of the destop or in the applications or system menu.

Andrew:
The box is checked in firefox EDIT/PREFERENCES/CONTENT but it is still not working when I try to open my course which needs java.
It seems like the system has openjdk showing installed but it is not fully installed. Is that the right interpretation of the terminal read out I just included above?

Thanks again in advance for you patience and helpfulness!!!!
Jim

Sam:
I did the verify test at java.com and it confirmed that something was still wrong.

I seem to need to remove the java alternative on my system and then reinstall java.

Is there a way to confirm what version I need? I have a 64-bit system with and intel core I3 processor and 4 gigs of ram.
I think that wobie installed a 64-bit version of Ubuntu but I am not sure.
Could someone help me test what version was installed?
Then I will know which java version I need to install.

Thanks
Jim

I have found out that in my previous post
java-6-openjdk is a directory.

I need to remove it but I have a problem doing that. The problem is that although I can login to Ubuntu, when I try to use the su command I get the following error:

jhlap@ubuntu:~/java$ su
Password:
su: Authentication failure

This may be related to a problem I have had since Ubuntu was installed.

When I try to install/uninstall software the authentication window comes up and I enter my password but it never fully verifies. The window stays open until I manually close it! As long as I have typed in the right password, when it closes the install/uninstall takes place.

In the same way, I can't use su but I have been able to use the sudu command previously posted in your responses earlier.

Is this a glich that can be fixed? I have already reinstalled using wobie twice and the problem remains.

Please help me as I am really enjoying Ubuntu except for the two problems I have.
  1. Getting java to work
  2. The authentication problem

This seems to be a great operating system that I would continue to use.

Thanks for you help in advance
Jim

Sam:
Thank you so much for sticking with me. I really appreciate you kindness!
Here is the result of the command.

jhlap@ubuntu:~/java$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[sudo] password for jhlap:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
openjdk-6-jre is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic linux-headers-2.6.35-22
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.

That looks like it installed the linux headers. But sad to say it does not seem to have corrected the problem.

I went to java.com and did the verify test again and it still showed a problem and I still can't open my java dependent course.

Please don't give up on me
Jim

> From the reference article you sent I also ran this command which showed alot of errors.
> jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-openjdk

You were trying to set (that is what -s means) an alternative java version, the errors are normal since there is no alternative installed. There is one version installed and that is the one you've installed recently.

> think that wobie installed a 64-bit version of Ubuntu but I am not sure

The version openjdk-6-jre is for and working on 64bit. I'm on 64bit with the same version and able to view applets.

> jhlap@ubuntu:~/java

Just review your posts. The whole time your procedures where made unnecessarily in 'java' directory. (Don't know from where you got the idea anyway.)
When you just simply open a terminal: ctrl+alt+t
it opens usually in the users 'home' directory, which can be viewed by cmd:
pwd
If your username is jhlap, result should be no more, no less:
/home/jhlap

From there a user which is in admin group can administrate the system with 'sudo'.
There is no need to change the directory in order to attempt an installation procedure.

> I can't use su but I have been able to use the sudo command

The 'su' cmd is unnecessary while installing or whatever. For a user which is in admin group it's sufficient to use 'sudo'.
With 'su', e.g. one may attempt to use root environment, login as another user using it's password.
However, using root environment and to forget 'exit' leaves the session open.

Playing with root environment without knowing what you're doing may leave your system unbootable.
Reference.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/basic-commands/C/
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php

> That looks like it installed the linux headers

Again review your posts, the autoremove option was there all along.
During installation attempts in a terminal it shows the user which packages can safely be removed, just as an information reminder saying like: Hey, you have older kernel entries installed, if you'd like to remove them try autoremove.

Kernel images don't get removed automatically in case a new installed kernel isn't working one can boot with the previous version.
On the other hand, sometimes users complain about less disk space or they're not able to install anything anymore because due to huge collection of kernel images in /boot.
The version 2.6.35-22 is an older one, current is 2.6.35-28.
In between you should have 2.6.35-25 and 2.6.35-27.
To view versions via terminal e.g.:
dpkg -l linux-image* |grep ii

Autoremoving headers doesn't remove kernel images though.
One can purge older images (leaving at least two and not removing the one currently booted) via terminal e.g.:
sudo purge linux-image-2.6.35-22-generic

Or in Synaptic, which has a user status menu showing packages which can safely be removed and search for linux-image will list currently installed kernel images. ( I think the default color for installed apps is green).
Reference.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto

Close Firefox and all other GUIs (Synaptic, Update Manager, Software Center) while working in a terminal, purge openjdk-6-jre, clean package cache and reinstall.
sudo purge openjdk-6-jre
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre

If applets still don't show up in Firefox, consider to rename mozilla directory. Firefox will then start with a standard configuration. Bookmarks and else can be successive moved back into the new one.
## Change the ending to whatever you like.
mv ~/.mozilla mozilla-backup

> have already reinstalled using wobie twice and the problem remains.

Reinstalling usually doesn't learn a user what the issue was and how to solve it.
Your online course will note somewhere that this isn't considered a 'linux method'.

btw. you've mentioned all along 'wobie', if it's supposed to mean 'Wubi'
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

rather consider dual-boot.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows

Reference about removing kernel images.
Text.
http://chrisjean.com/2009/03/05/cleaning-out-old-linux-kernels-in-ubuntu/
Images.
http://jaypeeonline.net/tips-tricks/howto-remove-old-ubuntu-kernels/

 Sam:
First of all let me thank you again. You really know how to help people like me.
I will read all the article you mentioned.

In reference to this section of your reply:

Close Firefox and all other GUIs (Synaptic, Update Manager, Software Center) while working in a terminal, purge openjdk-6-jre, clean package cache and reinstall.
sudo purge openjdk-6-jre
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre

I closed all GUIs and here were the results:

jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo purge openjdk-6-jre
sudo: purge: command not found
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get clean
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoclean
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22 linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
After this operation, 90.3MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Abort.

So the packages were not removed and the purge command did not work although I was in the home directory.

I did not want to reinstall until I was sure that was what I should do.

Jim

Sorry my bad.
Correction:
sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-jre

Sam:
That command worked now. However, after running the other commands you sent. I noticed that the linux headers were not removed. Should I still try to reinstall?

Here is the terminal readout:

jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-jre
[sudo] password for jhlap:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic linux-headers-2.6.35-22
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  default-jre default-jre-headless
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  default-jre default-jre-headless
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 8,310B of archives.
After this operation, 77.8kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main default-jre-headless amd64 1.6-38 [7,444B]
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main default-jre amd64 1.6-38 [866B]
Fetched 8,310B in 0s (16.0kB/s)
Selecting previously deselected package default-jre-headless.
(Reading database ... 147571 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking default-jre-headless (from .../default-jre-headless_1.6-38_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package default-jre.
Unpacking default-jre (from .../default-jre_1.6-38_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up default-jre-headless (1.6-38) ...
Setting up default-jre (1.6-38) ...
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get clean
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoclean
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22 linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 90.3MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Abort.

Jim

> Should I still try to reinstall

Yep.
sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre

When it purged openjdk-6-jre, it installed standard java 'default-jre' which points to dependency openjdk-6-jre.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/default-jre

Sam:
Dude, your patience is remarkable!!! I really appreciate you trying to stay with me and help.

I ran the install command and got this output:

jhlap@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[sudo] password for jhlap:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
openjdk-6-jre is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic linux-headers-2.6.35-22
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

It seems that according to the last line it did not install because I have the "newest version".

I ran this while no GUIs were open! Only the terminal was open.
I opened firefox and looked for the add-in and nothing!

Still can't get to my course either.

Sorry for the bad news! I know this is frustrating.

Jim

Try this.
Reminder, close Firefox.
CLI:
sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin

Which is the browser plugin. After installation you'd find it in tools -> addons -> plugins
In case you didn't bookmark the testpage I post the link again.
http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

The plugin was mentioned in the output of your post from 2011-03-31 among suggested packages.
>> Suggested packages:
>> default-jre equivs icedtea6-plugin

View the blue icon there.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/openjdk-6-jre

> appreciate you trying to stay

Thank you. May I give it back since your cooperation is motivating, such as giving terminal outputs, providing the steps and interest of learning *nix environment.
btw. in the early days of Ubuntu there was an interesting thread about 'sudo vs. su'.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-August/045152.html