Error while Fetching Mail. (Evolution, Jaunty)

Asked by Larry Vogler

Hello

What worked on Tuesday, today is Friday.
      Using Ubuntu and Evolution I could sent and receive email. I used MSN.

What I did on Thursday,
      I upgraded to Jaunty

What broke.
      Using evolution to receive mail I get the following error messages.
           Error while Fetching Mail
           Could not connect to 127.0.0.1: Connection Refused

What I can do and have done.
      Ping 127.0.0.1 successfully
      Access the web with firefox

What I suspect
      My password is getting munched. I went into evolution's preferences and turned off the remember password button, hoping to get to manually input my password. Evolution produced the failure message without giving me a chance to enter my password. Now I am less inclined to think it is my password.

What I would like
      Could someone tell me how to get more information on what evolution is complaining about? I am sure there is a more detailed trace of what is going on somewhere. I would like to be able to understand what is going on.
      To fix my ability to receive email.

More information-
      The command "sudo apt-get install hotway hotsmtp" doesn't work for me. Hotway is not available.
       My /etc/inetd.conf file was modified to comment out the following line:
                pop3 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/bin/hotwayd
       I put it back. Entered "sudo /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd restart", which was successful. Did not fix the problem.
       I cannot telnet to 127.0.0.1, says connection refused.

       Does Juanty kill hotwayd? Is there a right way to configure evolution to access mail from msn?

Thanks very much

Larry.

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Larry Vogler (vonelperro) said :
#1

Hello again.

For whatever it is worth, I installed hotway. I rebooted. Evolution works, I can read my mail.

I think when I cleaned up the old files that were not needed anymore hotway got erased, or something.

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SlugiusRex (slugiusrex) said :
#2

Alas I'm suffering from this same situation. Evolution was working just fine immediately before the upgrade process.
Evolution is still working great after going to 9.04 except for when I try to send/receive. Hotmail looks good when I access it directly from the website.

I have the exact same symptoms and have tried the exact same remedies with no success. For example:

+ I rechecked all my settings as prescribed by the UBUNTU forum :
     http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html

+ "apt-get install hotway hotsmtp" reports "already the newest version".

+ "sudo /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd restart" also had no effect.

+ Telnet gets rejected on port 25

            telnet> open localhost 25
            Trying 127.0.0.1...
            telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

      Where I would normally expect to see something like

            telnet> open localhost 25
            Trying 127.0.0.1...
            Connected to localhost.
            Escape character is '^]'.
            220 mail.MYDOMAIN.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)

I was wondering.... In spite of the warning to close all applications during the upgrade... I mighta gotten bored during the very, very, very long installation process - and open Evolution at the exact wrong moment. I'm not certain that I did this, but could this have l prevented some key files from being upgraded? If so how do I fix it?

Question 1 : Is there a set of command line tests that I can perform to confirm that Hotway is alive

Question 2 : I noticed on a different server that Bugzilla also stopped working after the upgrade. Could they be related?

Question 3 : I noticed on the "What's new in Ubuntu Server Edition" that there were changes to the system firewall?
                     ( http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs/whatsnew#ufw9.04)
                     Did desktop get those too? Are new firewall rules being applied that weren't there before ?

     Uncomplicated Firewall new features
     Version 0.27 of ufw brings many easy to use new features:

    * ufw now has debconf support, which means that you can enable ufw and setup some basic rules via the
       installer, and most importantly for server, via preseeding. Any "simple" rule can be preseeded (ie: ufw allow 22/tcp)
       as well as application profiles (ie: Cups, DNS, Imap (Secure), Pop3 (Secure), SSH, Samba, Smtp, WWW, WWW
       (Secure)), but not complex one (ie: ufw allow from 192.168.0.0/16 to any port 22 proto tcp).
    * ufw can now be used to add iptables REJECT directives now, both for rules and as the default policy.
    * Rules can now be inserted, rather than just appended to the end.
    * ufw now has the concept of log levels (off, low, medium, high, full) and can log on a per rule basis as well.

I will keep testing and report back later. Any help greatly appreciated..

  : SLUG

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SlugiusRex (slugiusrex) said :
#3

This was a good post from 2007. I will try to repeat the steps later.
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=445525

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SlugiusRex (slugiusrex) said :
#4

OK I carefully inspected the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files. There didn't seem to be any problem there.

I also looked at UFW - but it wasn't active. So, it doesn't look like a firewall type problem on the local machine.

That rules out my two previous suggestions. Sorry back to square one.

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SlugiusRex (slugiusrex) said :
#5

OK - I got it working 100 % now.,...

The upgrade seems to have removed the features that were there before. Ignore all the stuff I wrote before and do this.

                                                                                        \/ \/ \/
         http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-evolution-to-use-hotmail-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html

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Larry Vogler (vonelperro) said :
#6

Hello again

Ok, maybe I am misguided, if so please set me straight. But when you do an upgrade the upgrade is not supposed to remove features that were there before. I think, at least in my mind, that there is a bug in the upgrade. Can this be fixed?

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Best C de-Avillez (hggdh2) said :
#7

@Larry: I agree with you: upgrades *should* not take out features that were available. But without knowing:

1. how you upgraded
2. what packages were removed (and some of them are based on user selection)

It is difficult to say if it is indeed a bug.

@SlugiusRex: please one question per, er, question... Anyway: I will give it a try:

A1. *do not use Hotmail*, so cannot answer.
A2. "Bugzilla" is the name of a product/package. Which bugzilla stopped working? If it is a locally installed, you should look at the system/application logs; if it is a remote bugzilla, it is difficult it is the same issue.
A3. the most important changes for the desktop on 9.04 are listed in http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904.

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SlugiusRex (slugiusrex) said :
#8

 Thanks its working for me fine now. That posting from ubuntugeek site is perfect :

  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-evolution-to-use-hotmail-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html

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Larry Vogler (vonelperro) said :
#9

Hello

I upgraded by using the most brain dead way possible. There is a script that allows you to upgrade, I used it. When the script asked if I wanted to get rid of unused software I said yes. I am not really a ubuntu knowledgeable person. I use it and I like it but I don't have time to keep up with all the details of what is doing on. I guess if I were to write a script, or a python program, or whatever, to do an upgrade I would make a log file that documented everything my program did. Is there such a program for ubuntu upgrades?

I guess the hotway program is still the way to go for accessing msn.com.

Thanks for your interest.

Larry.

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Anton Lauridsen (anton-lauridsen) said :
#10

I had the same problem, but solved the problem using this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1124293.html

I would appear that you don't really need hotway to access emails from hotmail, maybe that's why it was pulled from the repository.

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Amy (amydevil) said :
#11

Can I fetch back an email I just sent off? If yes, how can I do it, please?