I have installed Elektrisch from Software Center but it does not show up in Menu. How to access the program???

Asked by Atadam

I have installed "Elektrisch" but where to access the program?
It does not show up in the Menu?
Any clue?
Hoops, i'm a human, though i first search for visiual input!
(=> Billing Gates e.g. Win a.s.o.)

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :

Can you give the output of:

uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep elek


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Sam_ (and-sam) said :
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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :

Cool, we also get the output of:

apt-cache policy electric


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Atadam (getmeahorseor2) said :

This is what i get and funny thing is in Software Center it is noted as installed.

ai@ai:~$ uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep elek
Linux ai 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:40:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 10.10
Release: 10.10
Codename: maverick

ai@ai:~$ apt-cache policy electric
  Installiert: (keine)
  Kandidat: 8.10-1
     8.10-1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe i386 Packages

Since Software Center proposed an update i had a shot without success.

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Best Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :

As you've noticed, according to the output of "apt-cache" the package called "electric" does not appear to be installed.

Running this command should install it:

sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install electric

If that doesn't work, then please copy all the text from the Terminal starting with where you paste (or carefully type) that command.

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Atadam (getmeahorseor2) said :

Before you read this i would like to ask a simple question that does not need an answer.

At least not for me!

All computers use binary language, we convert binary 01 to languages that human's are able to read.
First is, as i understand hex, after this c(++,#) follows and after this everything else comes.

With Ubuntu we have 4 programs to convert input for human's in order to install programs.
1.) Terminal (the final solution for which i cannot find any codes)
2.) Synaptic (a more understandable solution for dummys like me)
3.) Update manager (which only updates if you use terminal input first for whom code cannot be found)
4.) Software Manager (is easy but shows uninstalled programs as installed)

Though my first question would be why 4 programs are needed who intend to do the same.
Second would be why should i use the terminal. I am a horseman and would not teach how to do a Piaffe to a Beginner though yes terminal input has to be restricted, but why is there a thing like synaptic and wouldnt it be better to asure that Software center evolves if dummys like me use Ubuntu.

Yes there has to be a failsafe (terminal or"DOS" input) like in every train, but am I the person to use it?
If you ask me, get rid of synaptic, make update manager part of Software Center and edjucate Ubuntu dedicated people terminal codes.
Or as most FREE Software does leave input values on the net.

ai@ai:~$ sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install electric
[sudo] password for ai:
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for ai:
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en
OK http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release.gpg
Ign http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner Translation-de
OK http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release.gpg
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-de
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en
Hole:1 http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick Release.gpg [197B]
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/multiverse Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/multiverse Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/restricted Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/restricted Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates Release.gpg
Ign http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ maverick/partner Translation-en
OK http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release
OK http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release
OK http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/multiverse Translation-de
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/multiverse Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/restricted Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/restricted Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security Release.gpg
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/main Translation-de
OK http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org/ maverick/free Translation-de
OK http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner Sources
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/main Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/multiverse Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/multiverse Translation-en
OK http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main Sources
OK http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources
OK http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner i386 Packages
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/restricted Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/restricted Translation-en
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe Translation-de
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates Release
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security Release
OK http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick/main i386 Packages
OK http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org/ maverick/free Translation-en
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main i386 Packages
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org/ maverick/non-free Translation-de
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe i386 Packages
OK http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse i386 Packages
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org/ maverick/non-free Translation-en
Hole:2 http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick Release [6.860B]
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick Release
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
OK http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/free Sources
OK http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/non-free Sources
OK http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/free i386 Packages
OK http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick/non-free i386 Packages
Es wurden 198B in 2 s geholt (66B/s)
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
W: GPG-Fehler: http://packages.medibuntu.org maverick Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
Das folgende Paket wurde automatisch installiert und wird nicht mehr benötigt:
Verwenden Sie »apt-get autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  bsh bsh-gcj libjava3d-java libjava3d-jni libvecmath-java
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  bsh bsh-gcj electric libjava3d-java libjava3d-jni libvecmath-java
0 aktualisiert, 6 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 57 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 13,7MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 18,7MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren [J/n]? j
Hole:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main bsh all 2.0b4-12 [271kB]
Hole:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main bsh-gcj i386 2.0b4-12 [357kB]
Hole:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe electric all 8.10-1 [11,2MB]
Hole:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe libjava3d-jni i386 1.5.2+dfsg-5 [47,7kB]
Hole:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe libvecmath-java all 1.5.2-2 [118kB]
Hole:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe libjava3d-java all 1.5.2+dfsg-5 [1.655kB]
Es wurden 13,7MB in 1 min 4 s geholt (214kB/s)
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket bsh.
(Lese Datenbank ... 315846 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entpacke bsh (aus .../archives/bsh_2.0b4-12_all.deb) ...
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket bsh-gcj.
Entpacke bsh-gcj (aus .../bsh-gcj_2.0b4-12_i386.deb) ...
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket electric.
Entpacke electric (aus .../electric_8.10-1_all.deb) ...
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket libjava3d-jni.
Entpacke libjava3d-jni (aus .../libjava3d-jni_1.5.2+dfsg-5_i386.deb) ...
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket libvecmath-java.
Entpacke libvecmath-java (aus .../libvecmath-java_1.5.2-2_all.deb) ...
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket libjava3d-java.
Entpacke libjava3d-java (aus .../libjava3d-java_1.5.2+dfsg-5_all.deb) ...
Verarbeite Trigger für man-db ...
Verarbeite Trigger für menu ...
Verarbeite Trigger für hicolor-icon-theme ...
Verarbeite Trigger für desktop-file-utils ...
Verarbeite Trigger für python-gmenu ...
Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/desktop.de_DE.utf8.cache...
Verarbeite Trigger für python-support ...
Richte bsh ein (2.0b4-12) ...
Richte bsh-gcj ein (2.0b4-12) ...
Richte electric ein (8.10-1) ...
Richte libjava3d-jni ein (1.5.2+dfsg-5) ...
Richte libvecmath-java ein (1.5.2-2) ...
Richte libjava3d-java ein (1.5.2+dfsg-5) ...
Verarbeite Trigger für menu ...

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :

You have marked this question as Solved, and from the text in the Terminal, it looks like the package "electric" was successfully installed. Do you need further assistance?

"1.) Terminal (the final solution for which i cannot find any codes)"

The Terminal is not a package manager. The Terminal provides an graphical interface (i.e., a Window) in which a shell is run (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_shell). In the shell, you run commands, many of which run programs. The "sudo" command causes programs to run as root (the superuser, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo) -- it runs the command that is given after it as root. The apt-get utility (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man8/apt-get.8.html) is actually the program you've just used, which is part of the APT suite of utilities (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man8/apt.8.html). There are other programs you can use as well, such as aptitude (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/aptitude.8.html) and dselect (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man1/dselect.1.html). There are also utilities, like dpkg (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man1/dpkg.1.html), which performs the actual down-and-dirty package management work but which does not keep track of what software and updates are available and does not automatically download them. All the tools mentioned above, as well as the graphical utilities Update Manager, Ubuntu Software Center, and Synaptic Package Manager, ultimately use dpkg to do their work.

So by including the Terminal in this list, you're "mixing apples and oranges" as the saying goes.

"2.) Synaptic (a more understandable solution for dummys like me)"

Synaptic is intended to be accessible to people with a low level of experience while still offering most features needed even for more advanced operations.

"3.) Update manager (which only updates if you use terminal input first for whom code cannot be found)"

There are many people who keep perfectly functioning Ubuntu systems totally up to date all the time, just using the Update Manager, and never run a package management command on the Terminal. So...what are you talking about?

You may be experiencing a special situation--perhaps you have found a bug that affects some but not most users--but it's rather hasty to assume that all users' experiences are similar to yours. Can you explain what you mean when you say that it "only updates if you use terminal input first for whom code cannot be found"?

"4.) Software Manager (is easy but shows uninstalled programs as installed)"

Ubuntu does not contain a program called Software Manager, but it does have Software Center (also called Ubuntu Software Center), and I'm guessing this is what you're referring to. It is indeed intended to be easier and--more specifically, simpler--to use than the Synaptic Package Manager. It does not generally show uninstalled programs as installed. You are one of the very few (maybe the only) people this has happened to. Does this happen with other packages as well? Perhaps something has gotten broken on your system, or you've found a bug.

"Though my first question would be why 4 programs are needed who intend to do the same."

They don't do the same thing. If you want a simplistic graphical interface for installing software, use the Software Center. If you want a sophisticated graphical interface that is more powerful but more complicated to use, use the Synaptic Package Manager. If you want a graphical interface to upgrade currently installed software (or upgrade your whole system to a newer release of Ubuntu), use the Update Manager. If you want to use the command-line instead of GUI utilities, run a tool like apt-get in the Terminal. These are all different needs, and they are fulfilled by different applications.

Another way to look at this is that, first, there is the divide between graphical programs (Synaptic, Software Center, Update Manager, and--you didn't mention this one--gdebi) and command-line programs (apt-get and the other utilities that start with apt-; aptitude, which is a different design, performing the functionality of all the apt- utilities and using slightly different, more sophisticated considerations to solve package conflicts, and also providing a full-screen interactive mode; dselect, a more simplistic command-line tool for full-screen interactive package management; and dpkg, which is ultimately used at least for some functions by all the other command-line and graphical tools--dpkg is a more basic utility than the others, and it will install, uninstall, and upgrade individual packages, and obtain information about what packages are installed and available).

Then, when we focus on the graphical utilities, we see that:

(1) Synaptic does everything. You asked why there is not one program for all of this. There is. It's Synaptic.

And then, for when a specialized utility is desired to perform just one specific kind of package management function, we have:

(2) The Software Center, which you can use for browsing available packages and installing them.

(3) The Update Manager, for updating currently installed packages (upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu fits under this, as that is accomplished largely by upgrading packages to the packages provided in the next Ubuntu release).

(4) gdebi, which is a more simplistic frontend to dpkg, providing the ability to install an individual package. This functional has been somewhat supplanted by the Software Center, which can also be set up to launch when you double-click on a .deb package file and provide the opportunity to install the package.

"Second would be why should i use the terminal."

We're not saying you should use the Terminal with any regularity.

We've asked you to run commands and report back the results because the only way we could get a similarly clear picture from you using graphical programs is if you captured a video of what you were doing and posted it online with a link to it. Furthermore, even if you did that, it would be much more cumbersome for us to work from and thus less useful. This is a text forum, and the Terminal uses text, so the Terminal is very well-suited to the kind of support we're able to provide here at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu.

There is a kind of precision inherent to "run these exact commands in this exact order, and post the text that is produced" that we really can't get by telling you to use a graphical utility. Since we don't typically start out know what the source of the problem is, a big part of what we do is provide commands that produce text output that we can examine. Often, solutions that work still had a possibility of not working (in case the problem was different from what we expected), so when that happens, the output often provides enough information to know what has to be done next. If we walked you through individual steps using a graphical utility, then it would take enormously longer.

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Atadam (getmeahorseor2) said :

Please do not misunderstand me. I do not complain about the small troubles I
have experienced with Ubuntu on my Laptop.
Those are nothing compared to the never ending story of bugs updates and all
that rubbish you get with Windows.
To tell the truth I am very happy to have Ubuntu installed and since you
guys are to my opinion very competent and I still try to improve my basic
computer skills i take the liberty of asking unqualified questions to learn.

To date i had only noted that you are all very helpful and my overall
thoughts about the people behind Ubuntu is more than positive.
I do not intend to bug you, i just try to understand.
and yes "elektrisch" is now perfect installed and working like a few other
things you and your friends have helped me to accomplish.

Even if have said this before:
You Guys are amazing.

Thank you for your help (and I will do my reading)

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Eliah Kagan (degeneracypressure) said :

I'm glad to hear that your overall experience with Ubuntu has been positive. Please do not feel as though it is in any way inappropriate to ask for help with any problems you experience, or to ask about why Ubuntu is designed a certain way, even if you believe the issues are minor (and even if you don't).

Ubuntu, like any operating system, does have bugs, and there is a good chance you may find some. Perhaps you have. In particular, if the Software Center is still showing uninstalled packages as installed, please mention that, so that we can investigate that problem further.

If you want further assistance with this issue, please feel free to post again (and when doing so, you can reopen the question so it no longer is marked Solved, and people will know that you are asking for help).

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Atadam (getmeahorseor2) said :

Thank you.
Since i am the only one who uses Ubuntu here i have started to convince people to use it. Cleaning my site will take a while but rest assured that you will be not only be mentioned but explained. Hell, the very moment i write with people who are actually involved with Ubuntu's development and i cannot tell you what a pleasant experience this is!

Thank you all for your help!

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luce grey (lucegrey412) said :


It sounds like you are having trouble finding the program "Elektrisch" on your computer. Have you tried searching for the program using the search bar on your computer? You can also try opening the program directly from the installation folder by navigating to the program files on your computer.

If you are still having trouble finding the program, you may want to check the installation instructions or contact the manufacturer for further assistance. Additionally, it's worth noting that "Elektrisch" may not be related to electric scooters, as it's a common German word for "electric". If you are looking for information on electric scooters, there are many resources available online that can provide you with helpful information.For more Vsit : https://sxcscooters.com/products/emamba-v-x4

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.