Amaya 11 fails to install

Hi,

You can install amaya by opening synaptic package manager (system->administration->synaptic) and searching for amaya.

Applications in ubuntu should be installed through add/remove programs or synaptic.

Hi Dean,
actually, I think it is a bug. I don't think I explained the problem or
the resolution I found well enough.
I'm stuck in the house because of a storm but when I make it back to my
office I'll follow up with the solution I found.
Hopefully it'll help other users and hopefully the bug (or idiosyncrasy)
of the installation will be caught by either the W3C team that did the
build, or the Ubuntu family.
I'm not saying my claims are valid since I've only been using Ubuntu for
a short period of time. I have, however, done extensive writing and web
development teaching/ support in the windows world.
I'm looking forward to writing some pieces about doing common web
designer tasks in the Ubuntu OS.
I'm really enjoying it and hopefully my notes will make it easier for
others who want to try it.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Sas <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: [Question #59030]: Amaya 11 fails to install
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:34:07 -0000

Your question #59030 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59030

    Status: Open => Answered

Dean Sas proposed the following answer:
Hi,

You can install amaya by opening synaptic package manager
(system->administration->synaptic) and searching for amaya.

Applications in ubuntu should be installed through add/remove programs
or synaptic.

Hi Chris,
BadaBingPC wrote:
> BadaBingPC is still having a problem:
> Hi Dean,
> actually, I think it is a bug. I don't think I explained the problem or
> the resolution I found well enough.
> I'm stuck in the house because of a storm but when I make it back to my
> office I'll follow up with the solution I found.

Please do, if it is a bug it's no problem to re-open the bug.

Debian maintainer of Amaya:
Well, the problem is that he tried to install the package from the w3.org site, which is different from the one on the Ubuntu repository. The later is split between arch-dependent and independent data, so in order to install it you would have to remove amay-data and amaya-doc first.

W3C Amaya List:
Try doing this - go to System→Administration→Synaptic, search for "Amaya", right-click on any installed amaya packages and remove them. Then you'll be able to install it from Add/Remove.
Ubuntu's package for Amaya and the one provided by Amaya are slightly different, and since you tried to install both they conflicted.

Result was success. Amaya 11 is really nice. Amaya 9.5 had design area rendering problems in both preview and split view and was unusable.

Summary:
You install amaya 9.5 from the ubuntu repositories (this also installed amaya-data and amaya-doc)
Found it had some rendering bugs and so uninstalled "amaya" (this left amaya-doc and amaya-data installed)
Tried to install amaya 11 from the w3 site which failed as it is packaged differently (no separate -docs and -data packages)

The w3s amaya should either switch to ubuntu style packaging (i.e with -docs and -data packages) or cause those packages to be removed when installing (conflict/replace). That is up to them to deal with.

I think in future we will automatically remove packages that are probably obsolete (like the amaya-docs and amaya-data packages in this example) but only when the user is upgrading between releases.

wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade the Ubuntu repository for Amaya from
9.5 to 11?
Chris
PS: one of the issues it hung on was an image in user/share/amaya.png.

On Jan 29, 2009 4:26am, Dean Sas <email address hidden>
wrote:
> Your question #59030 on Ubuntu changed:
>
> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59030
>
>
>
> Dean Sas posted a new comment:
>
> Summary:
>
> You install amaya 9.5 from the ubuntu repositories (this also installed
amaya-data and amaya-doc)
>
> Found it had some rendering bugs and so uninstalled "amaya" (this left
amaya-doc and amaya-data installed)
>
> Tried to install amaya 11 from the w3 site which failed as it is packaged
differently (no separate -docs and -data packages)
>
>
>
> The w3s amaya should either switch to ubuntu style packaging (ie with
>
> -docs and -data packages) or cause those packages to be removed when
>
> installing (conflict/replace). That is up to them to deal with.
>
>
>
>
>
> I think in future we will automatically remove packages that are probably
obsolete (like the amaya-docs and amaya-data packages in this example) but
only when the user is upgrading between releases.
>
>
>
> --
>
> You received this question notification because you are a direct
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> subscriber of the question.
>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:39, BadaBingPC
<email address hidden> wrote:
> Question #59030 on Ubuntu changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59030
>
> BadaBingPC posted a new comment:
> wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade the Ubuntu repository for Amaya from
> 9.5 to 11?
As a general rule we don't upgrade applications in repositories once
that version of ubuntu is released. Exceptions are made for
security-only and some bugfix-only changes. See the full policy and
reasoning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates

> PS: one of the issues it hung on was an image in user/share/amaya.png.
It would be appreciated if you filed bugs for the specific issues you
were having with amaya 9.5.

Thanks,
Dean