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Ubuntu 7.04 Really Wrong Screen Resolution

Asked by Quatermass on 2007-06-25

I've installed 7.04 into an old pc I built.

It unfortunately set the screen resolution to 1280x1024 instead of 1680x1050.

It has a a radeon rv100 qy 7000/ve video card and I tried to get it to work.

I went to 'Debugging Xautoconfiguration' page and came across a bit of a brick wall.

It said " sudo mv /etc/xorg.conf /etc/xorg.conf.orig"
But what is that?
I managed to figure out I needed to open a terminal after hours of research and type it in.
Then it returned an error of file not found.
A few hours later I managed to figure out it actually meant /etc/X11/xorg.conf!!!

Then the instructions said "restart X" (Huh??? what is that? Who writes this crap?

After a few more hours I discovered I need to simply press Ctrl-Alt-backspace . Gosh WHY couldn't it just say that!!!

I did that and now my LCD screen states it can't display the screen mode and I should change it.

So I'm stuck. I can't change what I can't see.

I'm typing this in a Internet cafe.

What can I do now to recover my PC?

I thought Ubuntu was suppose to be easy! I guess I fell for the line 'It just works'.... :-((

I've tried and tried to progress with this OS. But its been brick wall after brick wall with the official documentation.
Can you Ubuntu guys spend some time on it?

I'm really down atm....so excuse me...

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2007-06-26
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Hanusz leszek (leszek-skynet) said : #1

Hello,

The "DebuggingXautoconfiguration" page is not meant to change the resolution of your screen.
The page you were looking for is this one:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto

To fix your problem, you can type this command in a terminal:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Quatermass (stuarth-ecs-tech) said : #2

How? I can't see anything on screen. Did you not read my statement?

I looked at this page you recommended and it quite clearly states "For Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake):" near the top.

So where is the text for the 7.04 version that I'm running?

It's says "start a sudo session". What's sudo and how do I start a session?
What's a session?

I don't want to bugger things up by using the wrong info.

And why isn't this fixing information supplied with the OS?

I didn't have Internet access to start with and having this info on the computer would have sped things up enormously!

You Linux people seem to assume an awful lot about people using Linux for the first time. :-(

Best Quatermass (stuarth-ecs-tech) said : #3

Ok, I managed to get my screen back to 1024x768 and tried the 'FixVideoResolution' instructions.

Well, no surprise there. Several lines were wrong, didn't explain what GDM or aticonfig was or how to install it.

Some of the lines were simply typed in wrong.

I've now destroyed my ubuntu disks, deleted the harddrive partition and gone out and bought a Windows XP CD.

Why? Because lo and behold - "Windows XP - It just works". I've now got a screen with a working desktop within an hour and it recognises my video display at the right resolution. Oh the wonder of it...

If any of my fellow IT mangers ask me about my experience with Ubuntu, I'll just reply with "it's broken. Same old crappy documentation that been its ball and chain for years".

Why don't you linux guys wake up and fix the documentation?
Oh I know why, you're all too busy developing software to download or ripping off other peoples copyright work.

Am I pissed off? You bet I am. I've spend over 12 hours trying to get a simple thing like a screen resolution to the right value and because the documents are all so awfully written with mistakes and out-of-date info the above average user is hopelessly lost. God help a beginner.

Amazing, truly amazing what a waste of effort this all was.

psk07 (mrambil) said : #4

Really funny post :)

OMG! this guy must work for Microsoft as a Linux FUD plant

Wow ... and he's an "above average" user??? He should have correctly posted that he's an above average *Windows* user, aka Linux newb. Not all Windows skills translate over to the Linux environment. In the same way that my grandma had a learning curve to conquer on how to use a mouse and navigate about Windows, a Windows user should be prepared to invest a sizable amount of time in learning Linux if they choose to step outside of the easiest Linux offerings, such as those offered by the major computer manufacturer, ie Dell, HP. I really hope Quatermass revisits Linux, preferably with a computer offering Linux pre-installed because, with those guys ... it just works.

jordanlund (jordanlund) said : #7

If you aren't familiar with a command line or what the word "sudo" is then you have no business being an IT Manager. Some would say you have no business being in IT at all, but that's probably too harsh. I can probably find a job for you re-booting users Windows machines.

This is basic, basic stuff for folks using not only Linux but Unix as well. As a MANAGER you should be expected to know these things and failing to know them is not the fault of the OS you're using.

Phusion (phusion) said : #8

I started using Linux when I was 12, I fixed my screen res all the time and I used redhat, so we didn't have dpkg, I just edited the config files. I don't think the documentation is at fault, you need a Linux for beginners book and also to calm down. Linux is not windows, don't treat it as such. Grow up you freaking child

Sadly, the guy closed his account the same day as his last post but hopefully other frustrated noobs will come across this post and find it comforting, educating, and entertaining.

@jordanlund Just curious, where'd you get the IT Manager bit?

jordanlund (jordanlund) said : #10

@Circa Lucid

From his second post in this thread: "If any of my fellow IT mangers ask me..." At least I'm assuming he meant "manager" and not "manger". It could be he actually is a small hay bearing feeding trough for pack animals. He seems to think like one.

jordanlund (jordanlund) said : #11

--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Circa Lucid <email address hidden> wrote:

> @jordanlund Just curious, where'd you get the IT Manager
> bit?

From his second post...

"If any of my fellow IT mangers ask me..."

takeda64 (takeda64) said : #12

Actually he's right about the documentation. Why Linux doesn't have a good one?

Take look at the one that FreeBSD has: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/
It's organized clearly (you can easily guess which section you should read to figure out your issue), every concept is clearly explained (each chapter has an introduction explaining the jargon used). Also they try to not be a bunch of HowTos but more like an actual book with examples and illustrations.

I would call FreeBSD harder to learn (everything is disabled by default, for example to get an X working you really have to set it up yourself), but actually they explained it so well that any beginner could do it (granted he or she will bother to read the instructions).

First, you're making the wrong comparison. You can't say you want to compare a navel orange to apples in general. Now, if you compare FreeBSD to RedHat, you'll find far more documentation (http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/) and far more books on Amazon. I'll concede, though, that Ubuntu 7.04 probably didn't have a great deal of documentation (actually, Ubuntu.com has nothing for 7.04 specifically).

Also, if you think FreeBSD is hard to learn, try Linux From Scratch where you have to hand select and compile all your software. Just kidding. Each Linux distro is as hard or easy as you want it to be, it all comes down to how customized do you want your computer to be.

jordanlund (jordanlund) said : #14

I will freely admit to being biased since my first Linux distribution was Slackware back in late 1993/early 1994. But I did get Ubuntu up and running on a PlayStation 3 just for kicks and that included re-setting the screen resolution even though the default resolution was so large on my HDTV I couldn't see the entire screen and had to use a lot of controls by "touch" so to speak.

Think of a pilot flying by instruments alone, that kind of thing. It's not THAT hard if you are willing to learn a new operating system and have some clue as to how a command line works. The "IT Manager" above most likely first started using computers with Windows 98 (if that!).

Robert Lucas (blucas12) said : #15

Quarermass is right..Linux will always be a backwater OS as long as ordinary people have to deal with command line nonsense.