bad suggestions for keyboard on 9.04 install

Asked by Svish on 2009-07-12

Installing the desktop version of Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit (iso downloaded 2009-07-11). I noticed that the suggested keyboard layout in Step 3, USA, is not a very bright one. Cause in step two I selected Europe / Oslo as timezone. Based on that, wouldn't a much more reasonable suggestion for keyboard layout be Norway?

Of course not a very big deal, but I believe small things like this matter. It would give me the impression that Ubuntu knows me. While now I instead get the impression that Ubuntu is slow and dumb, since I kind of have to tell it twice where I live.

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2009-07-17
Jamal Fanaian (jamalta) said : #1

Thank you for taking the time to report this issue and helping to make Ubuntu better. Examining the information you have given us, this does not appear to be a bug report so we are closing it and converting it to a question in the support tracker. We appreciate the difficulties you are facing, but it would make more sense to raise problems you are having in the support tracker at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu if you are uncertain if they are bugs. For help on reporting bugs, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs .

Tom (tom6) said : #2

Hey, there's a special ubuntu website for suggesting ideas. Here's one that a friend put in and already people are voting on it :)

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20480

just navigate from there to look through some other ideas or try adding one of your own. If your idea is similar too someone elses then you'll often be notified of that, if you haven't had time to hunt through for yourself. I think it does sound like a good idea and worth proposing because part of the reason i wanted to move away from Windows was to avoid the americanisation of everything

Anyway, good luck and regards from
Tom :)

Original bug was fine. It needs to be marked as wishlist importance by
someone with the access.

Vihar (vmankov) said : #4

I think it's not so easy.
Think of someone with not Latin native alphabet. Imagine he has not so big experience with computer. Now he accepts the proposed during installation nonLatin layout of keyboard and doesn't now even how to switch between his native and the latin layout. If the system begin with his nonlatin switch of layout he is handless (keyboardless) now and stuck forever (if hasn't access to an advice). Now he decides to reinstall. He accepts the proposed nonlatin layout... and so on till he things "f..k all Ubuntu";-)
And what if he experience another keyboard/layout problems? There are hundreds keyboard models in the world, I think. So the safest choice is TO START with the most universal en-USA and than to tune the behavior of keyboard at your own taste.

Svish (torleif) said : #5

@Vihar: Not sure if I understand what you mean there... If a person doesn't know what kind of keyboard layout he has, how do you expect him to select the correct one in the first place? And why would someone with a non-latin layout want to switch to a latin layout? Especially if he doesn't have much computer experience. And in that case I would say it is also highly unlikely that he has a non-standard keyboard layout. It is most likely a computer bought in a store nearby and it probably has a keyboard which corresponds to whatever area he lives in, and therefore what area he selects in the timezone thing. He would also most likely be able to guess that he needed to change something in Step 3 if he selected UK as timezone and got French for suggested keyboard layout (Although that shouldn't happen).

Also, I would say it is highly unlikely that a person not being able to guess what keyboard layout he has will be doing an Ubuntu install himself anyways :p

Vihar (vmankov) said : #6

Svish,
I was talking about similar problems:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/77279

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