Cannot Install Ubuntu 9.04 on Hp Touchsmart tx2

Asked by Frins

I get this Laptop a few weeks ago. Now I would like to install Ubuntu. I've downloaded the 32bits image, I burned, and I checked if was correctly burned.
I entered in the graphical mode installation and it loads, and it promps a bash terminal. An a message that says something about an X.org Error.

Laptop specifiations:
HP TouchSmart tx2z
- Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
- AMD Turion(TM) X2 Ultra 64 Dual-Core Mobile Processor ZM-82 (2.2GHz)
- 12.1" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)w/Integrated Touch-screen
- 3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
- ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3200 Graphics with 64MB Display Cache Memory
- Western Digital Scorpio Black 320GB 2.5" 16 MB Cache 7200 RPM
- Webcam + Fingerprint Reader with HP Imprint Finish (Reaction)
- Wireless-G Card with Bluetooth
- SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support

I haven't tested the 64bits image, I will try it.
Will I can install Ubuntu on this Laptop?

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Derek White (d-man97) said :
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Frins (francesc-bgr) said :
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It's not listed here.

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Derek White (d-man97) said :
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I would edit the wiki, adding your experience with the 32-bit package on your hardware.

And, I assume by "graphical mode installation" you mean the Live CD...the Live CD startup fails with the X error?

On the other hand, if you do get through installation via the Live CD, but after you restart it fails, you could try an apt-get update/upgrade to get the current packages, and see if that fixes any X problems.

Also, checking the individual pieces of hardware (mainly your graphics card and touchscreen - because of the X error) on the lists might point you to a solution.

You should also, definitely, try with the 64-bit addition - why wouldn't you?
If you want to get your hands dirty, you can always try the Alternate CD.

Aside from that, without actual error logs, I can't help much more.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Did you MD5 check yoour ISO? Did you run the self test of the CD once burned?

Have you ran the memory tester?

You could try configuring your bios to not enable sound / lan / wifi / etc. Until you get installed. You could also press F6 on the first CD boot screen and select boo options.

With 3Gb RAM you can use the 32bit ISO but to fully take advantage of your CPUs 64bit capability I recommend the 64bit.

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Tom (tom6) said :
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I still think the 32bit desktop edition is the best one to try. Err have you tried booting up from the Cd and tried the option "Try ubuntu without making changes to this machine", that should get you to a working desktop which we call a LiveCd if it works

Almost all versions have this option as their default option when you boot up from their installer cd and it's a good way to check that all your hardware works easily with the distro you've chosen. Sometimes if you find one that works you can use the xorg.conf from it to get other distros (eg Ubuntu) to work. I personally would recommend trying Wolvix Hunter and Knoppix as they are each from different families of linux and both have quite good hardware detection
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix
i'm not suggesting installing either of them, just try out their LiveCd session to see if one of them works.

Another thing worth trying is changing one or more of the boot options, particularly the acpi settings
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

These two pages might be some help too
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-troubleshooting.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-parms.html

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
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If you can get Ubuntu's LiveCd session working then the best way to install is as follows

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Good luck and regards again from
Tom :)

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Frins (francesc-bgr) said :
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The problem it's not of the CD. I have installed without problems Ubuntu in other machine with this CD. With the 64 bits CD is solved. Thanks!

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Tom (tom6) said :
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Brilliant, nicely done :)))
Thanks and congrats from
Tom :))

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Tom, why do you think a 32bit OS is the best one to try rather than a 64bit one? Sure a 32bit OS will work on all CPUs but surely taking full advantage of the CPU is better?

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Tom (tom6) said :
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i tried 64 bit Ubuntu and it was great, better than Mandriva by miles, but then when i tried 32bit Ubuntu that was much better than the 64bit version by quite a long way (maybe not miles but a fair way). The 64bit version only works on 64bit machines but the 32bit version works on both. 32bit version of Ubuntu seems to have much larger repositories with less fiddling around and in 8.04 and 8.10 seemed to work much more easily, throwing up less weird niggles. 32bit version can access more ram than i ever need and does all the multi-threading so i really don't see what part of my machine is under-used by going with 32bit versions. One core hovers around 20% usage with the other at about 50%, i only seem to need about 1Gb of the 2Gb ram available and my swap doesn't get used at all (or rarely). I've tried opening as many heavy apps as possible and managed to get both cores using 50% and ram usage up to about 1.5Gb but i don't really need to watch 2 movies at the same time while playing a game lol.

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Tom (tom6) said :
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Maybe if my graphics card could handle more special desktop effects and if i could get the spinning cube to work then maybe i might be able to push it all a lot further but i haven't and i really don't need 2 movies on different desktops in a spinning cube anyway *shrugs*. My cpu's are only 1.8GHz but i over-clocked them to 2.6GHz which might have been vital for Windows but i haven't used Windows since getting this machine together (although i've toyed with it a couple of times). Linux just doesn't need the same high level of system resources that Windows needs to do anything. :)))

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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64bit will encode and decode audio and video faster as they can compute 64bits of data in a sinle step rather than 32bits. The repos are exactly the same for both systems. There is a 64bit and a 32bit version of every app you can search for in the standard repo. The only drawback of 32bit is skype is 32bit only but then again skpe is garbage.

Dual core isn't only for playing 2 videos at once, its for getting the OS working faster by effectively giving 2 CPUs. More CPUs gives a faster PC so long as the system kernel can access them.

Yes the RAM of a 32bit system is limited to 3.5Gb which is enough for most but full access to the 64bit registers is also an advantage that cannot be overlooked.

There are no niggles in any of my systems and they are all (except my file server which is a P3) 64bit and everything works flawlessly without any need for tweaking, java works great and 64bit flash works amazingly despite being beta. (I always advise 64bit flash to 64bit users)

You can also take advantage of dual cores for faster booting if you add extra options to your grub and fstab configs. I don't personally use any dual core or more than 2Gb RAM but i always like to use the distro that matches my CPU and strongly believe other users should too.

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Tom (tom6) said :
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I already have both cores working, one at about 20% the other at about 50% but if i open a lot of heavy apps i can manage to push this up to 50% on each at the same time. I watch movies and video just fine and seldom need more than even 1Gb of ram. 64bit just doesn't offer much advantage *shrugs*