9.04 wont run on laptop when 8.10 did

Asked by timerep

hi Im posting this question again as I couldnt get help before. I have a compac armada m700 1 gig laptop with 512 ram that ran ubuntu 8.10 fine. upgraded to 9.04 and in wont get past the loading stage. loads for 12 seconds then all goes to a standstill. cant seem to get around it wont run the live cd or reboot after upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10 please can anyone help.

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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Hello timerep,

have you already tried to boot from a live CD (best is to load into RAM), then open a terminal to mount your Notebooks HDD and check the /logs/-directory on that drive.

It would at least give you a hint about what was going on untill the system came to an unexpected halt.

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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Hi sadly I cant get as far as the live cd that wont boot up either, going into safe type mode it says the system clock is unstable and some other things and comes to a halt I really dont think Im going to get 9.04 to run, which is sad as 8.10 ran fine. any more sugestions would be helpful thanks

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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If 8.10 ran fine, why did you fix it when it wasn't broken?

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Check your ram and set your bios to failsafe defaults. You can then most likely boot the livecd and fsk your internal drive(s)

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
#5

hi 8.10 ran fine so why change it, well simply that the new version had come out and the updater showed it as a recommended uprgade I will try to run the defalt settings on the bios but dont hold out much hope thank you for replying and I will get back to you once ive tried it.

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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hi again, reset the bios to defalts but no joy, ubuntu 9.04 will not load on my laptop 8 10 worked fine but its true of any other distro that is based upon 9.04 the same thing happens at the same place the loading from live cd starts, then 12 seconds in the cd drive powers down and the whole thing is dead, I have to disconnect the battery and power to get out of it. the ram is fine as is everything else with the laptop and the spec is well within the scope of ubuntus requirements but no joy. Can anyone tell me if this problem will be solved in the next edition or will I just have to run 8.10 until it runs out next year and either change to another distribution or throw my laptop away. Its very frustrating all round any sugestions would be help. thanks.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Did you MD5 check the ISO you downloaded? Have you checked the D you burned is consistant?

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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hi there, yes all checked out fine the disk is perfect in fact installed it on a friends pc no problems at all so the disk is fine the drive is fine too. downloaded the iso directly and bit torrent burned slowly and cheched disk integrity and did the md5 all perfect, so this is a mystery why it wont run on this laptop, even changed the hard drive, still no go any ideas?

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Try some bootoptions:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

and try disabling fancy hardwae in your bios til you get installed (like LAN, sound etc)

Make the system as basic as possible.

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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Haven't you checked the logs yet like I suggested?

You need to boot from any GNU/Linux boot-CD (can also be a different distro). Then mount your HDD (e.g. /dev/sda1) and go to "/var/logs/" (we require "dmesg" and "messages").

As long as you don't do that we will NOT be able to help you with your problem.

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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hi have sent you the files you need tried to do it on this site but kept timing out if you didnt get them let me know and i will resend them.

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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If you paste the files on here that would be better

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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Yes, I a gree with actionparsnip. In case it times out again try http://pastebin.com/ since it's easy to use and pretty much self-explainatory. ;-)

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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I will further change the status of this question (Question #74998).

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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hi have posted the files on pastebin hope you can get an answer from them, many thanks for your help so far

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actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666) said :
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Ok, we need the addresses of the pastebins. Its in the address bar after you clicked paste.

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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http://pastebin.com/m3fd08e95 that should take you to the posted page if Ive got it right hope it helps have posted copies of dmesg 0 and messages. thanks

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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1] Line 103 ( 0.793824] Time: 18:32:02 Date: 06/23/09) worries me. I hope you chose the logfiles from a boot that did not run properly. Logfiles from a boot which performed fine are worthless for diagnosis. I also don't understand why you chose dmesg.0 instead of dmesg.

2] 192ff shows some mem registraion problems. Also the interrupt assignments look weird. You reset your BIOS to FSD. Have you chosen an automatic assignment for your Interrupts (IRQ) though? You should have. Some older BIOSes allow you to set each IRQ by hand which is bad nowadays. I lso recommend you to disable all the serial/parallel device port stuff in case you don't need it.

3] Check your system temperature. 52°C for TZ0 MAY be too high. It's just a hint. Check the CPU tmp in your BIOS (stay in that screen for 10+ minutes) and ensure it does not go too high.

4] Line 361 to 364 tells me I was wrong with point 1]. Sorry! :-)

5] In line 441 bonobo-a-s is till buggy. It's always the same with that thing. But so far so good until line 445. ;-)

*] Oh... I think I found it. In two restarts the "Pulseaudio" causes some crash.

From the archlinux forum:
"I remember I had to compile PulseAudio from ABS as well a few weeks ago, but I think the package was updated since then in the repositories. I compiled 0.9.9 and my installed version is 0.9.10, which comes from the reps. This has something to do with libtool I think, but I can't be more precise than that."

Taking that and the "Failed to find original dlopen loader."-problem into account I assume you have Puseaudio framework now integrated in Ubuntu 9.04 which seems to be a mess. Further it also seems to interferre with ALSA (Line 863).

My final suggeston is to boot your OS in runlevel 1 (some recovery mode via the Live CD) and then run "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio". Then reboot normal like you always do. ;-) Good Luck!

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A. Denton (aquina) said :
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Is the problem yet solved?

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
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Thank you for all your help, but the problem didnt solve and I decided to sell the laptop, with a dual senario of windows xp and linux mint 6. There was clearly a problem with the hardware on the compaq that 9.04 wouldnt run with, so sadly dont have a laptop anymore but my main machine runs 9.04 fine, but I would like to know how to install and run a virtual box in 9.04 so i can load say windows 98 into that so I can run a game I have that wont run in compatability mode on the dreaded vista. If you could advise on that I would be grateful. The specs of the main machine are rather more decent. 80 gig hd with 2 gb ddr2 ram and amd dual core 2.4 mhz cpu. thanks again

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Best A. Denton (aquina) said :
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Ok I can help you out, but don't forget to mark this thread as solved or closed afterwards since we have to manny people regularly forgetting about this.

VirtualBox is indeed a good choice when it comes to OS virtualization. I have to mention though that among Microsoft operating systems XP and Vista run quite well (and fast/near native) but Windows 95/98 may (probably will) not run that well. The Problem is that those OSes are quite old and based on DOS. "qemu" or "kquemu" is probably a better solution to your problem. You could also try "VMWare" or "Parallels Worksation".

- Aquina

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
#22

many thanks for all your help.

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timerep (timerepairs) said :
#23

Thanks Aquina, that solved my question.