Kernel 4.17.3/4/5 Missing i386 Builds

Asked by Jonathan B. Horen on 2018-07-08

Surely the Subject line says it all. What's up with this? What happened to the i386 builds for kernels 4.17.3/4/5 -- they're present for 4.16.n builds, and for the 4.18.0-rc builds. If abandoning the i386 arch for Ubuntu releases is the issue, I'm perplexed as to the i386 presence in 4.18.n, but not 4.17.3/4/5.

I refuse to accept the excuse of $$$, given that Canonical has (and continues to have) the option to offer paid user support to offset development costs. (yes, I *do* financially support a Ubuntu-derived OS... Linux Mint... on a monthly basis; I'd likely do so for Ubuntu, as well).

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Manfred Hampl
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2018-07-09
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Where did you get the 4.17 kernel?
What is the output of:

lsb_release -a; uname -a

Thanks

Where did you get the 4.18 kernel?

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #3

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/

I'm currently running Linux Mint 18.3 (MATE), with the 4.17.2 kernel (from the aforementioned site)

Mint isn't supported here or in any of the Ubuntu support channels. Mint's support and community is entirely separate from Ubuntu's

I suggest you post on the Mint forum here:
https://forums.linuxmint.com

None of the "Ubuntu based" distributions are supported here.

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #5

Oh, FFS; yes, I know that; but it's not a question of whether or not Linux Mint -- as an Ubuntu-derivative -- supports the 4.17.3/4/5 kernals; rather, it's strictly an Ubuntu issue.

Let's not get confused. I asked, strictly, about the Linux kernels 4.17.3/4/5 that lack i386 builds on the kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17.3/4/5 web pages.

Contact the maintainers directly. They can answer you.

Your distribution isn't supported here. I suggest you post on the Mint forum

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #7

DUDE! It's not a distribution issue. Forget the distribution -- that it's an Ubuntu derivative is sufficient. To paraphrase Bill Clinton, "It's the kernel!"

Please, don't reply; your input is off-target and irrelevant. As I wrote previously, "Don't get confused."

Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said : #8

Please see https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/bootstrap/+build/15068821
This is the i386 build of the 4.17.0-4.5 version of the kernels for Ubuntu cosmic

Ubuntu definitely has an i386 build. If Linux Mint doesn't, then this is a Mint problem.

Then contact the PPA maintenaners directly. It's not an official Ubuntu repository or it would be in the default install. It's not and you accept the risks and other caveats of adding your own sources.

So do you think that a kernel in Redhat should be discussed here? They both use "the kernel". No it's not and neither is anything to do with Mint. You are using a distribution not by Canonical using a kernel source that you found and that's Ubuntu's issue....?

No... No its not

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #11

LMFAO.

actionparsnip (andrew-woodhead666): "You are using a distribution not by Canonical using a kernel source that you found and that's Ubuntu's issue....? No... No its not"

Yes, it is. It's not a Linux Mint issue -- it's an upstream (read: Ubuntu) issue. In fact, Linux Mint doesn't even supply a kernel other than v4.15.0

Manfred Hampl (m-hampl): See my answer, above.

If http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17.5/ is not an official Canonical product, then I'm a monkey's uncle. It doesn't get more Canonical than "kernel.ubuntu.com" -- not Linux Mint, not Redhat (lol), not Debian... Canonical! Ubuntu!

People! If you don't know the answer to my query, then don't "answer" it. I would be pleased to hear from the PPA Maintainers.

SMFH.

I suggest you report a bug. It will go to the maintainers.

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #13

It's not a bug (although some #NeverI386 supporters might consider it a feature).

It would make sense to no longer build kernels for i386, given that Canonical has stopped providing an i386 edition for its current (and future) Ubuntu desktop offerings -- http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso is all that's offered.

OTOH, perhaps the fact that i386 kernel builds DO exist (and are offered on the kernel.ubuntu.com website) for 4.17.2 and 4.18.0-rc indicates that Canonical developers recognize and acknowledge that users of Ubuntu Linux (and Ubuntu derivatives) might like to run kernels other than what are supplied with those OS releases.

If this were not true, then why are there also official Ubuntu kernels for the armhf, arm64, ppc64el, and s390x platforms?

Canonical can choose to support or not support any architectures they desire. I don't know what rationale there is for each choice but the ARM based kernels allow Ubuntu to be ran on things like Raspberry Pis and similar.

Best Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said : #15

There seems to be a misunderstanding.

1. The official sources for Ubuntu software packages are launchpad.net/ubuntu and the repository archive.ubuntu.com with its mirrors
2. There are additional sources, e.g. ppa.launchpad.net and kernel.ubuntu.com
3. In the official sources the only kernel version > 4.15 currently is 4.17.0-4.5 in cosmic-proposed.

If you have found an amd64 version of a kernel (but no i386 version) in one of the additional sources, then this is not an Ubuntu problem, but related to that other source.

You have created this question document in the area for Ubuntu, which is not the right target.

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #16

Thanks Manfred Hampl, that solved my question.

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #17

Vielen Dank, Manfred!

Just like I said...... *shrug*

Jonathan B. Horen (jbhoren) said : #19

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