Installation problem (kernel related?)

Asked by bacon333

 Alright, I recently attempted to install Ubuntu (last night) on a system with a Cyrix M-II 300 Processor... Part way through the installation, It changed screen (Using the alternate Ubuntu text installation 7.04 Feisty Fawn)... It said it could not find the kernel in the APT sources... (or something along those lines), and then said that it was possible to install the Kernel manually, however, I would have to be an expert to do this, and it said that the system will likely not be able to boot...

Is there anyway to get around this?
I checked the hash for the disc, the cd I used is good, I attempted this on another CD, and had the same problem...

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Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto) said :
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Where are you located? It is possible that the repository which was used to download the kernel package was not accessible, or that your network connection was unsuccesfull.
Perhaps if you give us a better description of the error message we can narrow it down.

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Would I have to have that machine connected to the internet in order to install it?

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Alright, well, that wasn't it... It's at 78 percent (I believe) that it starts 'searching for a kernel'...

And then it comes up with this exact message: (remember that I am running this install on the alternate version of Ubuntu 7.04, the text install)

----------------------------------------------------------| [!] Install the base System |----------------------------------------------------------

No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources.

You may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel later. This is only recommended for experts, otherwise you will likely end up with a machine that doesn't boot.

Continue without installing kernel?

<Go Back> <Yes> <No>

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#4

Oh, and btw, I'm located in Quebec, Canada..

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Ok, I think it's not system related... I tried to install Ubuntu (although a somewhat faster system (450 mhz), has more incompatibility issues), although it had many errors on the way to the 78 percent mark, It did display the same message the other system showed.
I think it might have something to do with the ISO, or something else.

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Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto) said :
#6

Have you checked your CD for burning defects? Its one of the options in the installations menu.
If its a burning defect try a lower burning rate.

You may also want to check your image for defects before burning.
Run the following command in a console:

md5sum cdimage.iso

where cdimage.iso is the image you have downloaded.

Compare the result with the official one in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes

In case you need MD5SUM for windows, you can try this one here:

http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#7

I have checked the md5sum, it is perfect.
I have checked for burning defects, none.
I have actually even burned a second copy of the 7.04 alternate directly from the ubuntu primary downloading site, and it is exactly the same file size byte from byte to the one I downloaded eaerlier...
Problem is, I only have one more CD to use... (I had a batch of CDs, but it turned out every single one of them were defected)...

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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I have checked the md5sum, it is perfect.
I have checked for burning defects, none.
I have actually even burned a second copy of the 7.04 alternate directly from the ubuntu primary downloading site, and it is exactly the same file size byte from byte to the one I downloaded eaerlier...
Problem is, I only have one more CD to use... (I had a batch of CDs, but it turned out every single one of them were defected)...

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Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto) said :
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The only thing I can think is that the installer fails (bug?) to recognise your cpu as belonging to the i386 architecture; I wish there was a way to check what kernel it is trying to install.
I also could not find any bug related to this in Launchpad.

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Alright, here are a list of things that I noticed...

-I had the same message pop up on another computer that I tried it on with that disc... The other computer was a pentium 3 at 450 mhz with 384 megs of RAM and an ATI Rage 2 Pro video card... So I dont think it's the computer itself...
-I have burned all the discs on this computer... it's a 2.4 ghz AMD athlon 3200+ with 1 gig of ram and a geforce 6800 GS...
-It is not the disc I don't think either... I tried it on 2 discs, one which was defective which gave me a bunch of other errors as well as that error, and on another disc which was not defective at all (a totally different brand)...
-I doubt it is the ISO either, as the hash is the same on the file on my computer as the one on the Ubuntu page of hashes, and the new ISO I downloaded seems to have the exact same number of bytes in it as the other one I downloaded.
-The only thing I could think of would be that the disc is somehow not actually burnt correctly (burned at 10 X) or that the DVD burner I am using is not working properly... other than that, I have no idea.

I am going to go and burn my last CD (I might have another one somewhere... I would have to look) using the new ISO, and burning at 2X...

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Alright. last CD burned. It doesn't work. Same problem... I am seriously wondering how this is even possible...
Do you think that possibly Xubuntu would work better?

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Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto) said :
#12

As I said, to me this looks more like a problem of the installer to recognise that for your cpu it should use an i386 architecture kernel.
I´m more curious to know what happens if you boot from the live CD; at least this could give us some more clues.

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
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Well, it starts up on the live CD... (This is from experience with 6.10 Edgy Eft Ubuntu)... and then when its nearly done loading, it seems to run out of RAM... so it doesn't really... work...
I believe this system has about 90 megs of ram... is that enough?

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#14

Ok, I found yet another blanc CD-R, tried xubuntu, and it had the same message...

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Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto) said :
#15

90 M of RAM!?
You must really install a command line system first then, and after a minimal desktop (ie. IceWM, FluxBox)
Have a look at this for more detailed info:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems

Still, this doesn't explain the error message.

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#16

Yeah, RAM is very expensive for that computer, as it is an older machine (much older) and has a different architecture of RAM... It's not like DDR or DDR2(haha) RAM...
That is what really bugs me though... I have 2 computers, one is a 450 mhz Intel (Its really bad to work with, has quite a I/O errors for some reason...), and then I have this slower one, but lot stabler one... 2 completely different platforms (one is an Intel 450 mhz PIII, the other a Cyrix MII-300... Both can run windows, however, get the same message...

Maybe I am doing something wrong in installation?

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Alan Pope 🍺🐧🐱 🦄 (popey) said :
#17

I have had this before on a desktop pc. Look at the last comment on 79662

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/79662/comments/12

Boot off the CD with the parameter:-

hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false

You specify this parameter by specifying it as an "additional option" on the end of the kernel boot line. It worked for me.

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#18

Hmm... doesn't seem to work...
Any other ideas?

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bacon333 (bacon333) said :
#19

Oops...

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) said :
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