Not getting any hard drive shown in step 4 of install (partition)

Asked by Ronald

The hard drive is a 500Gig. Hitachi. I have windows XP on 300Gig. And was going to install Ubuntu on the other. The HD is shown in the Bios. I have a XFX 8200GT Motherboard, XFX 8500 Graphics card. 4Gig of memory. I have tryed to install different Ubuntu OS's. With the same outcome. They all show no hard drive to partition. Ubuntu will run off the CD if i try too install from Ubuntu desktop it will end the same way. When running off Cd and i go into gpart it has no hard drive showing like before. This is the first time trying to do a full install. Always run it Windows on the old computer.

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nhasian (nhasian) said :
#1

Hello Ronald,

can you make sure you have the latest bios for that motherboard? are your hard disks IDE or SATA? I saw your motherboard has six SATA channels. are they all on the same controller? if your drives arent seen in ubuntu then its got to be a setting in the bios. check to see if there are any settings you can toggle like RAID->SATA or ACHI on/off etc. also you may want to ask in the nvidia forums if anyone else had this issue.

while ubuntu is running you should be able to see the drives with the terminal command:

sudo fdisk -l

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Tom (tom6) said :
#2

It sounds a lot like a "raided" hard-drive problem we were dealing with a few days ago. I don't know about sata drives nor about raided drives but maybe this will help?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto

I would always recommend doing a dual-boot install as some games and things still work slightly better under Windows sadly

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Also the gparted in Ubuntu and off the LiveCd when you get it from the repositories can't handle ntfs partitions although the same version and even earlier seems to handle them fine as long as not being run in Ubuntu. I have filed a bug-report about this but seem to be the only one that has noticed - probably my friends and i all have similar hardware issues. Anyway, try running a different distro as LiveCd and use the gparted from there. I tend to prefer Wolvix for this

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Ronald (rbski69) said :
#3

Went into Bios changed to Raid and still no drives to partition. When i tryed to boot to XP it would not do it. Had to change setting back. I did install another Hard drive 40Gig with XP on it. It is an older ide drive. When i run Ubuntu off CD that is the only drive shows in partition window. The same when try to do a full install from CD. To use the 500Gig drive i think it has to be set up as raid for duel boot because it is a SATA drive. Not sure how to do that. The info. that came with the motherboard is not clear enough for me this being my first computer built from scratch. Don't know if support from Geforce will help with that or not.

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, nhasian <email address hidden> wrote:

From: nhasian <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #61650]: Not getting any hard drive shown in step 4 of install (partition)
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 2:41 AM

Your question #61650 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/61650

    Status: Open => Needs information

nhasian requested for more information:
Hello Ronald,

can you make sure you have the latest bios for that motherboard?  are
your hard disks IDE or SATA?  I saw your motherboard has six SATA
channels.  are they all on the same controller?  if your drives arent
seen in ubuntu then its got to be a setting in the bios.  check to see
if there are any settings you can toggle like RAID->SATA or ACHI on/off
etc.  also you may want to ask in the nvidia forums if anyone else had
this issue.

while ubuntu is running you should be able to see the drives with the
terminal command:

sudo fdisk -l

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Tom (tom6) said :
#4

Surely not. I thought lots of people had moved over to sata drives? This can't be a problem that all of them are facing too. Wth the old ide install have you got "samba" showing as installed in Synaptic Package Manager? Try goin up to the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Synaptic is near the end of the list

It asks for your normal user password, not your SuperUser/Root one. Either search tool should help you find "Samba" quite quickly and if it's installed it will have a green splodge instead of an empty box.

Samba should help to see Windows drives in the Places menu on the top taskbar.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Ronald (rbski69) said :
#5

I think it is a raided problem also. I installed a non SATA drive with windows xp on it and it did show up in the partition window during the install. This is what came with fdisk when running from cd. The first drive is the one i just installed i think. The second is my CD drive and the next one could be my usb drive for my wireless mouse. And the last must be the Sata drive i want to put Ubuntu onto.
 Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
  or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
  or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
  or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)

Your input would be helpfull.
rbski69

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Tom <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Tom <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #61650]: Not getting any hard drive shown in step 4 of install (partition)
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 6:46 AM

Your question #61650 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/61650

    Status: Needs information => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
It sounds a lot like a "raided" hard-drive problem we were dealing with
a few days ago.  I don't know about sata drives nor about raided drives
but maybe this will help?

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto

I would always recommend doing a dual-boot install as some games and
things still work slightly better under Windows sadly

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Also the gparted in Ubuntu and off the LiveCd when you get it from the
repositories can't handle ntfs partitions although the same version and
even earlier seems to handle them fine as long as not being run in
Ubuntu.  I have filed a bug-report about this but seem to be the only
one that has noticed - probably my friends and i all have similar
hardware issues.  Anyway, try running a different distro as LiveCd and
use the gparted from there.  I tend to prefer Wolvix for this

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Ronald (rbski69) said :
#6

This is what came up with fdisk when running from cd.
Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
  or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
  or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
  or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
hda i think is the ide drive i installed. sdc i think is my CD drive,eda i think is a usb drive for my wireless mouse. the last must be the Sata drive i want to install Ubuntu onto. The first is the only one that comes up during an install try.

Any input would be helpfull
                           rbski69

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, nhasian <email address hidden> wrote:

From: nhasian <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #61650]: Not getting any hard drive shown in step 4 of install (partition)
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 2:41 AM

Your question #61650 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/61650

    Status: Open => Needs information

nhasian requested for more information:
Hello Ronald,

can you make sure you have the latest bios for that motherboard?  are
your hard disks IDE or SATA?  I saw your motherboard has six SATA
channels.  are they all on the same controller?  if your drives arent
seen in ubuntu then its got to be a setting in the bios.  check to see
if there are any settings you can toggle like RAID->SATA or ACHI on/off
etc.  also you may want to ask in the nvidia forums if anyone else had
this issue.

while ubuntu is running you should be able to see the drives with the
terminal command:

sudo fdisk -l

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Tom (tom6) said :
#7

The C in sdc implies that its also seeing an sda and sdb but we're just not getting them to show somewhere sensible just yet. Can you use Synaptic to install "gparted" and see what shows up in there too? Gparted will show up in the same sub-menu as synaptic and will be labelled as Partition Editor. take care when opening it as it is built to do some fairly damaging things and i'm only talking about using it to see what it can see - not to delete partitions or anything.

In gparted in the top right-hand corner is a drop-down button that should have all your drives in and should show all the different partitions on each of the drives in the main window. Green is Windows and lbue is for Linux partitions.

It might be that during install using "Manual partitioning" instead of "Guided" might show more as it uses something like gparted then (although it swaps the colours around lol)

Good luck and take care
Regards from
Tom :)

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Ronald (rbski69) said :
#8

In the places dropdown it shows the drive i just installed nothing else. The SATA drive is not shown.

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Tom <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Tom <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Question #61650]: Not getting any hard drive shown in step 4 of install (partition)
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 5:57 PM

Your question #61650 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/61650

    Status: Open => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
Surely not.  I thought lots of people had moved over to sata drives?
This can't be a problem that all of them are facing too.  Wth the old
ide install have you got "samba" showing as installed in Synaptic
Package Manager?  Try goin up to the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Synaptic is near the end of the list

It asks for your normal user password, not your SuperUser/Root one.
Either search tool should help you find "Samba" quite quickly and if
it's installed it will have a green splodge instead of an empty box.

Samba should help to see Windows drives in the Places menu on the top
taskbar.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#9

I am a bit stumped by this. Please can you repost as a new question?
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion

Several people look at new questions when they arrive at the front-desk and we clearly need someone else looking at this now. Good luck with this.

Apols and regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#10

If you are still having trouble with this then please post it as a new question. Only the most recent questions tend to get looked at so posting/re-posting a question just before america arrives online after work/school gives the best chance of getting a good few answers - such is the nature of the internet.
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion

If the problem has been resolved then please follow the link to the forum thread and mark it as Solved but please give us a clue how you did manage to solve it and also use the button under where you type stuff in rather than giving me karma credit points for just sending this note to you.

Apologies, good luck and many regards from
Tom :)

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