intel computer and can only install amd64

Asked by ron

I have Intel computer and It look like I can only install amd64 programs for example I wanted to install Picasa and when I used picasa_3.0-current_i386.deb I got the error " wrong architecture i386" It installed Picasa only after I ran the amd64 file .

Why is that or did I do something wrong

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#1

Please help me here

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#2

amd64 is just an expression that means 64bit. It applies also for 64 bit Intel chips, like Core 2 Duo and better. Don't ask me why they called it like this, probably because amd had the first 64 bit.

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#3

As for installing software, you should always look for amd64 or x64_86.

i386 is the wrong architecture for you.

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#4

The thing is that my system isn't 64bit but 32 bits

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#5

What is your model and processor?

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#6

it is intel dual core 7500

and it is 32-bit system

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nhasian (nhasian) said :
#7

Open a Terminal from the menu Applications → Accessories → Terminal and type:

uname -a

if it says i686 GNU/Linux then your running 32 bit. if it says x86_64 GNU/Linux then your running 64 bit. I believe your dual core processor is 64bit capable:

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm?iid=prod_core2duo+tab_spec

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#8

It does x86_64 GNU/Linux
I did not know that when I go to Windows properties it says that it's running 32-bit OS
The fact that it is capable means that It can only run 64 bit software?

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#9

Nhasian that you
one more question
if it only capable is it possible to change it to i386

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#10

I tried to install Realplayer using force architecture and got the following error
 error processing realplayer_10.0.9-0.2_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 realplayer_10.0.9-0.2_i386.deb

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Tom (tom6) said :
#11

Did you install Ubuntu inside Windows as though Ubuntu was just another Windows program? I think that's the main source of your problems. Please download and make a 32bit Ubuntu Cd from the official website

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/download

Here's some help on how to make a proper cd of it and how to bootup from the Cd (rather than booting into Windows)

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD

and here's how to setup a proper dual-boot system that combines the strengths of both Operating Systems rather than the weaknesses of both which is what you have at the moment by the sounds of it.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Here's some advice on how to move your data from the Wubi install and into the proper dual-boot. Note that some of this advice is about migrating the entire Wubi install out of Windows and onto it's own space on the drive but you need to avoid ending up with a 64bit version running on a 32bit machine (personally i prefer the 32bit version even on my 64bit machines as it has better repositories - as you said)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#12

Hi Tom
I used to have Wubi but I took your advice and install it from a cd on a different partition --- question #60331

and if i can not change it to 32 bit how than can install Real Player for example

Thanks

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Tom (tom6) said :
#13

The short answer is that i don't think you can.

If you can find a 64bit linux version of RealPlayer then you are in with an outside chance of getting it to work.  It's worth noting that Wine is also only really 32bit and so you'll probably have trouble using any Windows apps (such as a Windows 64bit version of RealPlayer) in 64bit Ubuntu too.

If you go up to the top-taskbar and click on

Applications - Accessories - Terminal

and then into the terminal/command window/console type

uname -a

then it should tell you which version of linux you are using (the command is not specific to ubuntu).  If i got the command wrong then please try typing

uname --help

as most commands have a handy "cheatsheet" on how to use the command.  I'm at a Cyber-cafe at the moment and unable to double-check the command i'm sorry to say.

You really need to use the 32bit Cd to install 32bit Ubuntu.  Hopefully you still have all your data still stored in the Wubi - otherwise just copy your data across to the Windows partition before installing the 32bit version over the top of 64bit Ubuntu.  It is possible that if during the install procedure you manage to choose "Manual Partitioning" and find and UNtick a box labelled "Format Partition?" for each partition that you'll end up with none of the data or programs getting wiped but it's not easy and requires some luck also.

Hopefully you'll soon be abl to tell me that you have 32bit Ubuntu installed and Real-Player installed easily.  I have a funny feeling that there are a couple more curved balls heading our way though so don't worry too much if it isn't quite plain sailing.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#14

well have fun and please have a cup of coffee on me I just found this page
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=32+bit&titlesearch=Titles
But It doesn't t help me much I will try to find a way to it and I think that I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu however it isn't clear to me what I need to do and to install 32 bit on 64 bit .
see if you can help here .

Again thanks and enjoin your coffee ... have a nice day

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#15

By the way I did ran unam and it is 64bit

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#16

Ron, I think there is a misunderstandung: I never heard of a "Dual Core 7500". But there is a Core 2 Duo and that is definitely 64 bit (it's actually in my current machine).

Do not mix up "Dual Core" and "Core 2 Duo". One is 32bit and the other is 64bit.

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
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Tom (tom6) said :
#18

Ok, if the one you have got is 64bit then you'll need to make a new cd of the 32bit version which you'll need to download. Hopefully you can make it using the your currently working ubuntu. Here's the download page for the 32bit version and some instructions

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/download

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

Although i tend to just double-click on the iso file and it usually all gets sorted out for me :)
Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom

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Tom (tom6) said :
#19

Even on my 64bit machine i find 32bit version much better to use because there are more programs in the repositories and more chance of getting RealPlayer to work if all else fails.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#20

32bit version of Ubuntu does all the multi-threading and everything that you'd normally need a 64bit version of an OS for. Ram really isn't an issue at this point.

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#21

yes it is core 2 duo sorry , do you than run 32 or 64 I know it is possible http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6756401#post6756401

thanks

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Tom (tom6) said :
#22

If you want to run RealPlayer and possibly other Windows software then i think go with 32bit. 64bit doesn't have such large repositories of programs and doesn't work well with Wine. If you're not to bothered about things not working and are happy to send in bug-reports then go with the other one.

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#23

Why not run 64 bit if you have 64 bit?

Real Player has a 64 bit version now and it runs flawlessly, I'm currently using it. Let me look up the thread....

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/301791

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#24

Oh, I made a mistake. I meant there is now a 64 bit FLASH player. As for REAL player, you have enough alternatives for real player in 64 bit. VLC or amarok are the best media players anyway.

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Tom (tom6) said :
#25

See Ron's problem of 8hrs ago

"
I tried to install Realplayer using force architecture and got the following error
 error processing realplayer_10.0.9-0.2_i386.deb (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 realplayer_10.0.9-0.2_i386.deb
"

Also the original problem

"
I wanted to install Picasa and when I used picasa_3.0-current_i386.deb I got the error " wrong architecture i386" It installed Picasa only after I ran the amd64 file
"

These problems occured by trying to use 32bit programs in a 64bit Ubuntu. The problem with 64bit Ubuntu is that it just doesn't work and isn't well supported.. 32bit does "just work" in a "plug and play" type way that non-techie's can use easily.

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#26

Ok guys, you have been very helpful I'll try to reinstall it again on the 64 just last question would it be possible to uninstall or remove ubutu and than reinstall .

thank you all have a nice day

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#27

Well, that's an overstatement. I'm running 64bit for a while and "it works". There maybe some occurrences where you have to hunt for 64bit debs but they are there. There are also ways (getlibs) to install 32bit debs on a 64bit OS. It's up to ron of course, but installing the 64bit version on a core 2 duo is the normal thing (and I understand that he has that already).

As for realplayer, why not use vlc or amarok?
As for picasa, I don't know, I'm not using that program but just google for 64 bit debs, I'm sure they are there.

Or use this:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=%s

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Tom (tom6) said :
#28

Yes

But you could just reinstall over the top and it defaults to wiping out the Ubuntu partition and reformats it. You could try the lighter touch i described earlier as that would achieve the same aim but might leave your data unharmed. It's still worth backing up any data you want to keep by copying it onto the Windows partition temporarily. The normal dual-boot instructions would help with your latest question

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Regards from
Tom :)

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#29

To reinstall, just use live CD again and "install". Be careful when it asks for a partition to put it on, then either use "whole disk" (while erase all other partitions if you have them) or choose the old partition and it will install over the old one.

Be careful there, maybe google some "HOW-TO"s on choosing the right partitions for your ubuntu install.

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#30

thank you guys I let you know you were great and I really like Ubuntu so much that I'm considering removing vista

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#31

One more last Q.
I am trying to install 32bit and it creating aa new partition how do i install it on the same partition

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Tom (tom6) said :
#32

"Manual Partitioning" rather than "Guided"

Note that many of us retain and dual-boot with Windows even though we seldom use it for many reasons. Some games and things don't work quite so well in Linux or under Wine. After using Ubuntu or other Linux's it somehow seems like people think we are somehow much more "techi" and keep asking questions which a quick boot into Windows helps us solve and of course nostalgia and hilarity. I mean, we spent years learning that joke and it can be good to go back for a laugh at what we used to put up with lol

Have fun, thanks and regards from
Tom :)

PS Welcome to linux land, especially the Ubuntu corner

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Tom (tom6) said :
#33

Oh yes in "Manual Partitioning" which is quite far into the install process make sure you change the "Mount Point" of the Ubuntu partition to "/" as / is the root of the filesystem in the same way as "C:" was the root in Windows. This gives us folders like

/home/ron/documents

and

/boot/grub

all starting with the

/

mark

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ron (zohieo1) said :
#34

See you soon Tom - Next time I have a Q.

Again , thank you all

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Tom (tom6) said :
#35

You're welcome.

In linux you're a lot more free to explore and try out different things than in Windows where you just have to do as you're told. As a result we often all have completely different opinions and have learned to speak out about bugs and other issues as it almost always helps develop something even better than we had before.

Although me and Bernhard may have seemed to be about to start a death-match or something i think we both agree on quite a few points. Linux is great, ubuntu is probably the best & it's great to see someone new trying it out. We both want you to have as much fun with it as we have had :)

Good luck & have fun, regards from
Tom :)

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Bernhard (b.a.koenig) said :
#36

No problem, Tom. :)

I really didn't have so much problems with 64bit packages, it would be interesting to see how 32bit performs against 64bit (with the same software) and if there is a difference. In the future, everyone will probably have a 64bit in their laptop but there might also be more 32bit in phones, netbooks, etc...