usb installation setup saving

Asked by DBJDBJ

8.10 live install on USB Kingston 2GB
All is fine.
But any setup is being lost This is OK for CD of course, but I am using USB.
How can I convince U8.10 to save all my setups so that next time a boot from USB all is saved ?

Thanks: Dusan (London, UK) <email address hidden>

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nhasian (nhasian) said :
#1

when you create a new USB Startup Disk:

System->Administration->Create a USB Startup Disk

make sure you have selected "Stored in reserved extra space" and reserved a bit of space on the drive instead of the option "Discarded on shutdown"

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#2

Ok but I am inside USB LIve Session. How do I follow your advice from Windows XP PRO ?

THanks !

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#3

Ok. Booted form U8.10 CD.

Created USB disk as advised.

Upon booting from USB I have the following error :

[ 0.396673] ACPI : Aborted because junk in compressed archive
[ 1.925565] crc error
[ 1.970466] Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root FS on unknown block (8,1)

Then system blocks for good....

Boot options:

noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd/gz quiet splash--

USB Is Kingston Data Traveler 2.GB, which was formated using WIN XP PRO as FAT drive.

Help anyone ?

Thanks: Dusan

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Tom (tom6) said :
#4

Doesn't this mean some problem with the cd?

[ 1.925565] crc error

Can you do a data integrity check on Cd from the bootup menu next time you try booting from Cd. The menu calls it something like "Check Cd for defects" or something. I'm not entirely certain but "persistent" looks good :) Does the Cd have Gparted on it? Try going up to the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Partition Editor ?

If there isn't one don't worry, i was just curious!

Good luck with all this
Regards from
Tom :)

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#5

Yes, "my" U8.10 has gpart on it when booting live from CD. I used it to "create partition table" on USB drive.
After which in win xp nothing could bring it "back" , besides the standard "disk management".

IMPORTANT: When using Fedora Live USB creator I do not have *any* problems whatsoever. On the same USB, and with the sam U8.10 iso image. The only problem is that this installation is NOT persistent. Even If I say it to be, by using this Fedora tool.

I suppose this means that U8.10 iso and/or cd images are ok...

Q: What EXACTLY needs to be the shape of the USB drive before one uses it to install U8.10 on it ?
Fat16 or 32? What kind of disk/volume? Should I use win xp diskpart on it ?

Any more ideas?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#6

I still think that when you next use the Ubuntu disc as a Live Cd it'd be worth "Check the Cd for defects", i think it is 4th or 5th item in boot menu. The errors you are getting are unusual.

Gparted is usually much better than Windows tools that are similar although i can't remember diskpart,

I'm not sure what a good Usb format is, fat32 has got to be better surely?

Sorry
Good luck and regards from
Tom

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#7

installed U8.10 form iso image as "windows app" ... works ok. Although still "very shy" with GParted ? So had to install it with sudo ....

USB + U8.10 issues
-------------------------

1. with GParted one can not re-format the USB stick, which is bad/annoying ?

2. Stil the key issue is: Fedorea win app for making live USB's works with U8.10 iso and makes perfect live USB stick. Minus persistence.

3. U8.10 inbuilt "Make USB Startup Disk" does not re-format USB. Why not? Why would anyone want to install Linux on USB and make it bootable and still preserve some files on the same USB? Re-formating USB drive from U8.10 is not for begginers. Same people who trusted Ubuntu is an escape at last, from the Win world.

4. Each and every Ubuntu USB live makers has the problem with booting. And it is always FAT16 or 32 problem. It is not CD checksun etc. I used all the linuxpedrive.com advices, with no luck. Only Fedora live USB creator works. With no persistence.

5. If USB1 vs USB2 slot is a problem why is it not clearly mentioned ?

PS: my machins is pretty good & standard (not cheap generic hardware) it is ASUS Pundit P1.

Regards: Dusan

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#8

Ooops ?! Now I can see "device /dev/sdb needs to be formated" and rhe "Format" button ?
I bet it was not there before.

What I did before opening "Make USB Startup" disk, was to unmount it using GPaerted and then format it to FAT32 using GParted.

CLicked "Format" and ... "Make USB Startup Disk" just mounted the /dev/sdb to /media/disk

Now after formating it I have to format it again. Helpfull but confusing ... I think this app shoudl allways do this with any USB.

Let me see what will happen next ...

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Tom (tom6) said :
#9

You can usually do more to an umounted partition then a mounted one

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#10

Built (al last) USB install by using properly installed and comprehensively updated U8.10.
Now it works. But still has issues with file system on it (FAT32).
Funny things is this is happening only sometimes and only on shutdown or statrup.

And yes, Fedora Live USB Creator, makes USB U8.10 installation which works perfect. Minus the persistence.
So I am affraid this is where the core issue is ...

@Tom : thanks for your comments.

Dusan

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Tom (tom6) said :
#11

If you've installed Ubuntu within Windows as a Wubi install then expect quite a few problems as this type of install combines the worst aspects of the 2OS's. It's like building a huse on shifting sands. It's worth spending a little time now sorting out a proper dual-boot in order to combine the best of both instead
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Migration i made easy somewhere in this guide
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely

Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#12

I was not using WUBI, I used U8.10 live CD to install it. I have "dual boot" now. But no real partition ;o)
I would gladly use GParted to create U partition, but I think it will not let me do it. I do not remember, I will have to log out and boot in again into U.

Dusan

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: 06 February 2009 12:54
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: [Question #59759]: usb installation setup saving

Your question #59759 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59759

    Status: Open => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
If you've installed Ubuntu within Windows as a Wubi install then expect quite a few problems as this type of install combines the worst aspects of the 2OS's. It's like building a huse on shifting sands. It's worth spending a little time now sorting out a proper dual-boot in order to combine the best of both instead
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Migration i made easy somewhere in this guide
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely

Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#13

ok I reqalise this was the same as using WUBI ... Or not ?

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of DBJDBJ
Sent: 06 February 2009 13:40
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Subject: RE: Re: [Question #59759]: usb installation setup saving

Your question #59759 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59759

    Status: Answered => Open

You are still having a problem:
I was not using WUBI, I used U8.10 live CD to install it. I have "dual boot" now. But no real partition ;o)
I would gladly use GParted to create U partition, but I think it will not let me do it. I do not remember, I will have to log out and boot in again into U.

Dusan

-----Original Message-----
From: <email address hidden> [mailto:<email address hidden>] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: 06 February 2009 12:54
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: [Question #59759]: usb installation setup saving

Your question #59759 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/59759

    Status: Open => Answered

Tom proposed the following answer:
If you've installed Ubuntu within Windows as a Wubi install then expect quite a few problems as this type of install combines the worst aspects of the 2OS's. It's like building a huse on shifting sands. It's worth spending a little time now sorting out a proper dual-boot in order to combine the best of both instead
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Migration i made easy somewhere in this guide
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely

Good luck with this
Regards from
Tom :)

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
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Tom (tom6) said :
#15

Just before your menu appears asking if you want to boot into Ubuntu or Windows do you see "Grub 1.5" flash up on the screen or do you see a Wndows loading screen appear first?

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DBJDBJ (dbjdbj) said :
#16

When I boot I see only a "normal" Windows loading screen where the second entry on the meny simply says: "Ubuntu"

I used U8.10 CD (ISO image) which offered to install U for me. Middle button of three provided : "Install Inside Windows".
Which is actually just calling (I suppose) wubi.exe which is in the roor of the U8.10 CD.

Now I have c:/ubuntu etc ... (note: E: is my system drive nor C:) and theere are also C:/wubildr and C:/wubildr.mbr

OK, I will remove this. No problem. I didi it just to be abler to use U8.10 live CD creator ,,,

I suppose after that I will have to create 1 partition for the U8.10 and 1 partition for the swap.
(For which I will use the excellent Paragon Partition Manager )

Then I suppose (again) I will just have to start with U8.10 CD and then .... what? Start the installation from the boot menu there ?

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Tom (tom6) said :
#17

No need to remove the Wubi install! You can just create a proper dual boot using
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

which has it's own partition editor but i tend to perfer having the partitions setup already and then going through the "Manulal" rather than the "Guided" or automatic partitioning when i get to the "Partitioning" stage.

I really like using the Gparted partition editor but i haven't tried Paragon yet.

After you have setup the proper dual boot you can boot into Wubi still and transfer stuff out of there and into the new main Ubuntu. Hopefully this guide will help but it'd be wise to read it briefly before strating the whole dual-boot install process because i'm not sure if there's anything you're supposed to do first in order to help migrate more easily
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely

Good luck with all this.
Regards from
Tom :)

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Tom (tom6) said :
#18

If you are still having trouble with this then please post it as a new question. Only the most recent questions tend to get looked at so posting/reposting a question just before america arrives online gives the best chance of getting a good few answers.

If the problem has been resolved then please follow the link to the forum thread and mark it as Solved.

Good luck and many regards from
Tom :)

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