I cannot install from Live Cd to New Hard Drive-Version 8.10

Asked by chelle

I have read and read and cannot find the answer. Actually I guess I have found several answers but none work.
I have a Dell Latitude D600 Laptop. It had Windows XP on it but the Hard Drive fried. So I bought a new, used Hard Drive which was completely formatted. I slid it in to the machine and it recognized the hard drive so I thought all was well. I did not want to purchase a copy of Windows because I hate it anyway so I thought I would go Linux. I downloaded the file and opened it and burned it to CD. I put the CD in the Dell and changed the bios to start with the CDROM. The machine makes a noise and I have a black screen with the Ubuntu logo and some the installation options. I have tried each one. I have tried every mode. I have tried the memory test and the "other options". I have read and read the help section but each thing I try, the disc spins and then stops and nothing happens. I thought maybe I wasnt being patient enough so I selected "install ubuntu" and "f6" and removed the "quiet whatever" then hit enter and walked away for several hours. I cam back to it now and no changes.
Can someone please give me a step by step. What am I doing wrong.
When the Hard drive first went out on this laptop, I loaded Ubuntu onto a flash drive and ran it on this very laptop. I couldnt install it, but I could run it. I thought with the new hard drive I could install it.
Do I need to partition? Please tell me how.
I am normally a saavy pc user but I feel like a retard right now.

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chelle (z00) said :
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Dell latitude D600
Bios Version A16
Pentium M 1.40 Ghz/600Mhz
512 Mb Ram @ 266 Mhz
Ati Radeon 9000
20 GB HD (primary and only)

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nhasian (nhasian) said :
#2

Chelle,

you know if you have a dell laptop, you already have a windows license right? no need to buy another one. the license key is is on the bottom of the laptop. you can have dell mail you an installation cd.

instead of the regular ubuntu liveCD, try installing from the alternate text based installer:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso

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chelle (z00) said :
#3

Thanks for the recommendation. I tried Dell customer support. I was told first it is not under warranty so they cannot send a new disc. Second, I could not verify the address that the laptop was originally mailed too (because I bought it used). Third, I did not by the new hard drive from them so I have completely fubar'd the system and they cannot help at all with anything!
I will try the alternate ubuntu install now.
Thanks.

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Joker Wild (lajjr-deactivatedaccount) said :
#4

ok check the drive with another boot disk see if it works ok. I will tell you something I downloaded Ubuntu 8.04 it seemed to work I was a logo a start screen. And I found the disk was foobared the cd was junk so i burned a new disk from iso and I never looked back of course I have use it since 6.06 and debian before that.

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chelle (z00) said :
#5

Ok. I downloaded and began install of the "alternate". I was really excited because it was going so well! Then it got to "configure network" and started throwing out error messages....so, I just skipped it. It continued and looked good until "Install base system"..I received several error messages about corrupt-yada-yada-yada.deb and finally "No acceptable kernel found". What is a kernel?
Anyhow. I am stuck on the "install base system" part of the "alternate" installation cd!
What now?
Does anyone have a copy of Win XP for a dell that they can FTP me?

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chelle (z00) said :
#6

1. cdrom/pool/ main/x/xfonts-terminus/cosole-terminus_4.26-1_all.deb was corrupt
2 couldnt download package console-terminus
3. cdrom/pool/main/x/xkeyboard-config/xkb-data_1.3-2ubuntu4_all.deb was corrupt
4. couldnt download package xkb-data
5. cdrom/pool/ main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.3.3.dfsg_12ubuntu1_1386. deb was corrupt
6. couldnt download package zlibig
7. warning: failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.8~20080505-oubuntu7_1386.deb
8. the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) Check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details
9. The base system installation into/target/ failed.
10. An instyallation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Install Base System

After selecting continue it will not move to next step but says " No acceptable kernel found." You can continue and install your own kernel later or go back and try again.

I dont know what a kernel is so I cannot install my own but I have gone back and tried again to no avail.
Help!

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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You must be sure your downloaded iso image and the self burned install cd is good...

- Please check the md5sum of your downloaded Ubuntu .iso image file, here the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM howto, and compare with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS

- Burn it on a cd rom, be sure to burn your cd at lower speed you can do usually 4x here an howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

Hoe this helps

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chelle (z00) said :
#8

I checked it and it said it was good but it did burn at 32x. I will reburn. It took 1 1/2 hours to burn at 32x...so I guess I will let it run over night and try again tomorrow.... Thanks.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
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Please also download the iso image again using the torrent so you have better check of downloaded iso file here the link:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent

Hope this helps

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chelle (z00) said :
#10

Re-burned at 19x. Thats as low as it will let me go. Burned faster this way than 32x. Go figure? I am re- installing now, but I checked the disc and it had many errors.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#11

I repeat the install cd must have no error on it

If you have trouble burning please use infrarecorder https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

hth

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chelle (z00) said :
#12

Im sorry. I do not know what a torrent is. What program should I use to open that? Then what? The other one automatically opened to the Cd Image Burner in Roxio.

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#13

Please install a bittorrent client i suggest you Deluge

http://deluge-torrent.org/

http://deluge-torrent.org/downloads.php

download and install it then click on the http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
and choose to open with Deluge

Hope this helps

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chelle (z00) said :
#14

I am trying this again until 6:00 or so, then I will just go buy Windows.
I downloaded the Deluge product. If i try to launch the program, I get just a quick blip of a little black screen and thats it. If I go the link for the Torrent file and click "open with"...Deluge is not an option...so i go to browse and select Deluge but it brings up all of the program folders related to that and there are only 2 that are applications "python.exe" and pythonw.exe". I tried opening the Torrent file with both of those and both failed and said " unknown error has occured". I did successfully download the InfraRecorder. I have 2 CD-R's left. What now?
Chelle

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#15

Too late for me i have no much time her in italy is 9. p.m. and i have to go i drop here some common note that are useful to get a working Ubuntu installed...

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Ubuntu 8.10 some suggestions and tips and check steps to solve install issue

- Minimum system requirements to install Ubuntu 8.10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements

- if you have more than 4gigabytes of ram and you want run 32 bits Ubuntu release please read:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853678

Download the standard Ubuntu 8.10 32 bits iso image from here:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
or better using a torrent file:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

- Please check the md5sum of your downloaded Ubuntu .iso image file, here the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM howto, and compare with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS

- Burn it on a cd rom, be sure to burn your cd at lower speed you can do usually 4x here an howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

- Please also check the md5sum of your self burned cd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM

- Boot your pc from self-burned cdrom, if it don't start from cd please modify your pc BIOS settings by accessing to it usually pressing CANC or F2 or other keys (check into your motherboard paper documentation or watch carefully the screen, usually there are tips to access BIOS, when you switch your computer on)

- then to be sure your ram is ok, boot from Ubuntu live cd main menu and at first showed menu, select the item "Memory test" to test your pc ram memory

- Here the steps to install Ubuntu 8.04.1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall

- Watch this video that show howto install Ubuntu on a pc with Windows: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Installing_Ubuntu_with_Windows_Dual-Boot

- if something go wrong at startup of Ubuntu live installation when you see the first cd menu like this http://i18.tinypic.com/6tzzndc.jpg pressing F6 you can put useful startup kernel boot parameters as showed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

Try to perform the "Memory test" and the "Check cd for defects" to be sure the cd is read without errors by the destination pc cdrom driver

- Booting from Ubuntu live install cd:
 * if you are in trouble with screen graphic user interface
   (usually the screen is black with a blinking cursor or screen out of range message):
- first try to dynamically change screen resolution please the press CTRL + ALT + "+" and/or CTRL + ALT + "-"
- Try to restart the graphic layer press CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
- Here the basic step required during install process http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron

If you are still in trouble... please reboot your pc and starting with Ubuntu live cd please try to put some common Ubuntu kernel live cd options you can find the boot options howto here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

Remove the "splash" and "quiet" options to see more boot infos message and/or errors.
Then try some commons parameters by putting them one by one or together:
noacpi nolapic nodma all_generic_ide pnpbios=off pci=noacpi

If this don't work i suggest you to download and burn on a cd at lower speed you can do (4x), here an howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto, the Ubuntu alternate install cd iso image ( ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso ) you can download this cd from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/

Sometimes is useful to change, if you have 40-pin IDE cable for the CDROM, to an 80-pin IDE cable.

If you are in trouble to download you can try to install and use a torrent client Deluge http://www.deluge-torrent.org/downloads.php to get your desired Ubuntu iso image http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/ please select a .torrent file

*** if you are installing in dual boot mode Windows + Ubuntu

Please make sure you Windows partition have no errors on it.

Booting in Windows force an a complete hard disk check.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
Then reboot again in Windows and make a clean shutdown.
Be sure to boot in Windows twice and to get a clear Windows shutdown.

***

Always useful is the online Ubuntu doc https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/

Hope this helps

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marcobra (Marco Braida) (marcobra) said :
#16

As additional tips please make a new question... "Please guide me on installing Ubuntu step by step" if you are in trouble...

I'm sure other Ubuntu user will answer you.

Good luck

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chelle (z00) said :
#17

Wow. Italy. I had no idea! Thanks for your help. I give up.