Gnome NM-Applet - vs - IFCONFIG | connectivity probs

Asked by ajaxStardust

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syntax("Intrepid Ubuntu 8.10") { QUICK EXPLAIN = What's at Issue }

nm-applet on startup != connectivity
nm-applet.sys == Ubuntu 8.10

User IFCONFIG ( eth0, lo ){
  eth0 (ifdown, ifup, ifconfig) {
    IFDOWN lo
    IFCONFIG eth0 {
       eth0 = various LAN addresses, masks, etc., known to be true
    }
}

User IFUP ( lo ) {}

  if ( eth0 == ping NETWORK ADDRESS == TRUE ) {
      CONNECTIVITY = TRUE
  }

} // END - Connectivity Established

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THE /REAL/ QUESTION:
In human terms: How can i get around having to use IFCONFIG manually any time i wish to gain network connectivity, as nm-applet will not produce desired result on startup

Please see also: #0 attachment to bug reported on this issue:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/298694

thanks!

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ajaxStardust (novicenotes-net) said :
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Update:

I tried Xubuntu 8.10 (64bit), both 32 and 64bit Ubuntu 8.10-- each aforementioned variant was a completely installed instance of the new distro release package (via ISO to CD-ROM)

Never did I have success with nm-applet / ifconfig , route, and/ or whatever other interplay is involved in generating LAN connectivity for the desktop user. I thought I might have had it for a second-- using Xubuntu 8.10 LIVE CD, on the same system (so, sudo was "ubuntu@", not "myuser@"-- the LIVE CD suer-user), I noticed that /etc/network/interfaces , unlike previous issue

[chronologically, _Ubu 8.10 64bit_ , _Ubu 8.10 32bit_, _Ubu 8.10 64bit_ (again), each failed to produce a satisfying connectivity for this impatient man, whose lack of mental stability only exacerbates the mole-hill, ah but i digress...]

Going back to _Xubu "gutsy" 64_ , which i had KNOWN to use nm-applet just fine, no probs on this system-- using what seems to be a "previous milestone" of the nm-applet, as something is visibly different there in the config file (assuming, same interaction /etc/NetworkAdmin/* etc., and parameters entered through the various applet connection files, Auto Eth, Wired Conn, etc, as named by the applet).

Thinking to self: "If i want a working Xubu system, i'm going to have to settle for 7.x, and to upgrade, if i want connectivity, and a Linux O/S with the quickness!!"
so I installed Xubuntu 64 from that CD-ROM i happened to have. First action was "Distribution Upgrade", so now-- w/out any other interaction between the Gutsy installation, and the "Distro Upgrade" in the Update Manager component (separate from the "updates", appearing above; its own unique option.

I selected Upgrade. The process was remarkably smooth in obtaining sources, downloading, pre-install, install, cleanup-- the WHole Nine!. very cool. (tried similar before, w/ less success, so i'd say -- KUDOS-- there's progress here! rock n roll!)

so, now i'm up to Xubu 8.... what... Hardy-- so, that's 8.04 , right? a Milestone? --

do i want to go up to the 8.07 edition-- isn't that the LTS edition of this general 8.xx release? I notice some difference here, from what i saw on the Xubu 8.10 desktop, which looked nice! i want that, if i can get to it!

i hope my rambles can be appreciated for an attempt to educate others through a semi-narrative rhetoric. It's really what i'm always thinking: "how will others read this?", "how might i re-word this, or that sentence, so that it might be more easily understood-- or better-- create an opportunity for another user to research something small-- wherein a LOT of learning however might take place. each of us should remember those days of-- even something as simple as discovering that, 9 out of 10 issues probably have a resolve somewhere in "man -k issueWord"

cheers!

(ps. any tips on staying at this 8.x level, or trying to "upgrade" to 8.10-- i will truly appreciate. seemed cosmetic, but a major issue for me, which i try to overlook [obviously] is the quirky difference between XFCE4 and the Gnome components and the real question of "Who's got control of these fonts / my screen res/ the Window Manager?: Gnome, or XFCE? -- 8.10, for the few minutes i spent there-- i thought i saw some improvement in that realm (uh... haha... in that "space"... the Gnome-vs-XFCE-desktop-shared-settings-space! ha. you know the one, right? yeeoowch! )

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