Installed Ubuntu, But will not Boot up

Asked by Jake

I have Downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 Beta and installed to my second drive with XP, also installed it on single drive by its self no other drives plugged in, the install goes great with no problems, but when it reboots for the first time it will not boot into Ubuntu, I have installed it several times and several different ways.
I downloaded it from Ubuntu, the ISO for 32 bit and tried AMD 64 bit but both do the same thing, (I burned the ISO file to DVD, is this ok, or should i burn it to CD) I know the problem has to be Grub not installing correctly, I have a clean drive to install to if i could get some Idea's but i am not real good with Linux yet, I don't quite under stand the install i guess or maybe just how to do the Grub install for the MBR, I would be glad to install in anyway that works, I have Vista and XP now but I can install it to a Drive by its self

Here is my system
AMD Athlon 64 x2 dual core 4600+ Cpu
Asus M2N-SLi Deluxe Mother Board
1 Gig DDR 2 ram
3 160 Gig western Digital Sata II Drives ( No Raid)

Loading Grub 1.5
ERROR 17

then curser just sits there flashing, i can only use ctrl alt delete and restart PC

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Ralph Janke (txwikinger) said :
#1

Error 17 usually means that grup cannot access the filesystem which has the boot menu etc.

Either the filesystem is broken or grub in the MBR was setup to look in a wrong filesystem.

How did you set it up?

Can you boot from the live-CD and provide us with the output of

sudo fdisk -l ?

Thanks

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Jake (wgn377) said :
#2

I am not sure what Live-CD you are talking about, I have the Desk Top, and
the Alternate install CD 7.04, Desk Top version will not boot into Ubuntu,
(Does the same thing as the installed Ubuntu doe's) I may not be setting up
the Install correctly, I just let the install choose the partition's and
format, and I installed Grub to this one only>> /dev/sda1 also /dev/sda2
and /dev/sda5 is what it shows for me to choose to install Grub into, This
is on a single Sata 2 drive by itself no other drives installed, I have
tried it both ways with and without XP, Here is a pic I took showing the
Drive layout in Partition Magic 8, Could there be a Bios setting I need to
set to make it recognize Linux? I have installed Linux Mandrake in the past
on different Machine with no problems!
On boot after install it just goes to loading Grub and countdown 0,1,2,3
then shows Loading Kernal at bottom of screen does give the press ESC
option, after that it is Black screen, hard drive not running and DVD not
running, I have waited for long time incase it needed to finish booting into
OS, Also I burned these to DVD not CD does that make a difference?

Sorry I can't answer all the facts,

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Subject: Re: [Support #4494]: Installed Ubuntu, But will not Boot up

Your support request #4494 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/4494

    Status: Open => Needs information

txwikinger requested for more information:
Error 17 usually means that grup cannot access the filesystem which has
the boot menu etc.

Either the filesystem is broken or grub in the MBR was setup to look in
a wrong filesystem.

How did you set it up?

Can you boot from the live-CD and provide us with the output of

sudo fdisk -l ?

Thanks

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Ralph Janke (txwikinger) said :
#3

The live-CD is the Desktop CD (or DVD). It means you can run a linux system from CD without installing it.

It would help if you could give the partition list of the drives and the menu.lst file in the linux partion in /boot/grub/ directory. It could be that the indentifiers for the HDs are somehow mixed up or something like that.

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Jake (wgn377) said :
#4

I just don't know, I can't get to the files on the drive Ubuntu is on, from
windows, I have put all the Live CD or DVD's on another Desktop I have and a
laptop and they all boot and run live CD with No problem, Ubuntu fires right
up and runs smooth, as the same with the SuSE live CD I have,

  Ubuntu will boot and install or live CD boots up to the choice options but
it Doe's not want to run, SuSE did boot on my system and run, but it is an
older version so graphics were not to good, I checked Bios settings and
reset to Factory spec's and checked other settings and Ubuntu just won't run
on this thing!
  Why would a Disk boot install and do all of this, but, will not load and
run from CD (live) or Hard Drive?

-----Original Message-----
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txwikinger
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:36 AM
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: RE: [Support #4494]: Installed Ubuntu, But will not Boot up

Your support request #4494 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/4494

    Status: Open => Answered

txwikinger proposed the following answer:
The live-CD is the Desktop CD (or DVD). It means you can run a linux
system from CD without installing it.

It would help if you could give the partition list of the drives and the
menu.lst file in the linux partion in /boot/grub/ directory. It could be
that the indentifiers for the HDs are somehow mixed up or something like
that.

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Best Jake (wgn377) said :
#5

Well i done a search on this problem and it seems that Ubuntu will not and may never run on a AMD Dual Core or Intel Dual Core 2 CPU, well at least till the next release anyway! I got the Ubuntu 7.04 Desk Top CD to run on this PC finaly, I had to unplug everything from the USB ports & FireWire along with the second monitor also. I had to turn off (disable) the jMicron controller item from the BIOS that is set by default to [IDE]. Now i have found a fix for Ubuntu not booting on this system, Here is the Fix (((( DO NOT USE Ubuntu))) for these type of PC's I tryed the last 3 versions with no luck! End of Story

 ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard

 Amd Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+

1 Gig DDR 2 ram
3 160 Gig western Digital Sata II Drives ( No Raid)

Great looking OS and with a machine that can boot it well, it sure is nice, maybe the next release will work for me! I do believe a lot of the Problem is in the Desk Top resilution, If i set the Desk top for the live CD at 1024 x 768 it does fine, but anything else forget it, also the install i tried the the Drive Never did work, No since in me using Ubuntu if i have to unplug all my printers and external disks and even then it is still jumpy, Enough said i think, just someone please find a fix for this and rewrite Ubuntu so it will work!

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John Arthur Fensome (fensj) said :
#6

BugFix:

Grub Loader problems:- "OS will not boot halts at Grub loader" as seen in versions 5.04 / 6.06 / 6.10 / 7.04 (& beta) / 7.10

Most of these are created by the grub loader reading (or attempting to read) an area that it can't see because of the DMA settings.

Fix: Rather simple really go into your BIOS and reset the IDE hard-drive settings from (Auto) to a DMA mode the hard-drvie does not recognise,

 e.g. On the following two motherboards, Asus A8V Deluxe (model A + B I'm building two for friends) and Asus A7V 880, the hard-drives are seen automatically and the drives set according to the reported back DMA mode is auto-selected (using Seagate Barracuda 120gb, 250gb, and 320gb ATA {also known as PATA} 16mb cache drives are seen as UDMA modes 5 and 6, and Hitachi Deskstar 80gb (these drives are the same as IBM I believe.)

 Set the value to one NOT recognised by the drive (ignore motherboard modes) and set them to UDMA 4, if your drive uses DMA4 or UDMA 4 use a lower value or adjust accordingly.

 This will force the grub loader to read the relevant DMA/UDMA mode directly from the drive and not from the motherboard BIOS, so it then selects the correct mode and can read the drive. (If it tries to read from the motherboard BIOS it stalls and this is where the problem [BUG] occurs.

Acknowledgements:-

 This information was gleaned from the web pages at http://www.ubuntulinux.org {it is not my own}

 I hope that this helps people fix the majority of the Grub booting problem[s].

For Dual Monitor
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Nvidia Dual Head / Dual monitor Fix

BugFix:

Dual-Head monitor problems:- seen in versions 7.04 (& beta) / 7.10

To fix this is much easier than it at first appears, first a warning!

Do not try to use the tool under "System | Administration | Screens & Graphics"
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When I tried this the system lost the previous {working} settings and althought it attempted to boot nothing appeared on the screen, trying CTRL+ALT+F2 did not bring up even a text mode login (i.e. no login) and NO display(s) showing at all!

Instead use the following method which works perfectly...

Fix:
 Once you have installed and downloaded ALL the latest updates for version 7.10, and you have activated / installed the "Restricted mode Driver" for "Nvidia", let the OS and computer finish fully updating. Once the drive stops running and or the processes have finished. You must install the 'restricted' mode driver or this will not work.

Remember to wait until this has all happened, (use the System | Administration | System monitor, will help, when your CPU[s] have finished major work) then reboot when prompted.

 Now after the reboot and the clean Login, wait three minutes (use screensaver to time this) and then use the following (I will try to replicate the prompts etc. that you will/may receive.

 Go to "Applications | Accessories | Terminal"

 You'll get a prompt like the following:

response User@SomeSystem:~$ Now type after the prompt

  User@SomeSystem:~$ sudo su [Enter] {Forces user into super-user mode}
response [sudo] password for User: Enter your password
response root@SomeSystem:/home/User Now type the following command

  root@SomeSystem:/home/User# nvidia-settings [Enter]
response

--------> A new window will appear with the Nvidia Corporation Logo in it.

  The nvidia 'control panel' will now appear and here you can set your various settings for dual head support.

  Here you can set things up, using the {I recommend using Dual-Monitor support, which allows different stuff on each monitor.}

  Select the tag - "X Server Display Configuration"

  If one of the settings you need to adjust is not listed try switching into 'Advanced... ', if you don't understand this, stay in 'Normal... '
  If you want to play with the fun compiz fusion display tool (makes Vista display stuff look like a school-kid <g>, see below) then remember to also turn on the "Enable Xinerama" tick box.

  When you've fully finished remember to click "Save to X Configuration File" and "OK".

If you don't do this your new settings will NOT be written to the "xconf.cfg" file. I advise you, unless you have many years experience with Linux and UNIX, just don't try to directly edit this file as most new users don't understand how much detail 'X' requires, stay with using the Nvidia tool above.

 "exit" {at the prompt - leaves sudo su mode} and "exit" the terminal... ( - which clears and closes the terminal.) if things don't clean up properly (happened to me once) then from the X desktop if you can't "exit" kill {click [X]} the terminal window (which will close both nvidia settings window and terminal.)

 or when instructed by the Nvidia control panel, go to ---> Reboot.
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 Thats it now all you have to do is ---> and reload your OS, and login... Now just for fun a tip...

 Go to "System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager", after logging back in, and once it finishes downloading the new application lists, "Search" for 'compiz' and download the "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" tool, let it install {it should now be installed near the top of your "System | Preferences " list,} have fun playing with this.

 You may have to re-adjust the frequency for some monitors to get the best settings, after rebooting.

You shouldn't need another reboot, remember that the WRONG FREQUENCY COULD DAMAGE YOUR HARDWARE! so be careful to have the manufacturers full specifications for the monitor[s] you are using. Most monitors have the manufacturers information about model number etc. On the rear on some kind of label, if it is not stamped into the plastic moulding.

Whalla... All should now be O.K. Enjoy

John Fensome

<email address hidden>

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Acknowledgements:-

Many thanks go to...

  'Kevin Gabbert' and his answer[s] to BUG report # [???? unknown ????] which he replied to a report by 'Sitsofe Wheeler' - written on 2007-05-14: (Ubuntu permalink)

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N.B. A note to ATI users, you should most likely need to find out the name of the programme that runs the settings for your setup. (Instead of 'nvidia-settings'.)

        You may have to go to the ATI web site to find this information, but it's probably something very similar.

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